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JohnR 12-01-2015 08:25 PM

So, mass shootings only happen in the USA?
 
Says our dear leader, in Paris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFCnAW27d_c

buckman 12-01-2015 08:55 PM

I heard this today and my thought was ... is he mentally ok ? It's really becoming surreal .
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tysdad115 12-01-2015 09:40 PM

And the sheep line up to cherish the lies that spew from him.
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Nebe 12-01-2015 09:49 PM

This hippy art phag agrees. He's out of his mind
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spence 12-02-2015 08:54 AM

Just doesn't happen may be a stretch, but it's not a huge one. Gun deaths in the USA per capita are dramatically higher than other Western nations. Mass shootings as well are extremely rare...some try to wash this away given our higher population, but that doesn't factor in landmass or easy availability of firearms.

I believe they think the Paris shooters had to buy disabled weapons in Eastern Europe, repair them to make functional and smuggle through Belgium into France. That's a heck of a lot of work for a handful of guns.

Raven 12-02-2015 09:02 AM

he smiles to hide the melt down

Jim in CT 12-02-2015 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1087620)
Says our dear leader, in Paris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFCnAW27d_c

His stupidity knows no bounds, none. The day before the Paris attacks, he said ISIS was contained, and he also bragged about increased security at foreign airports. As he made that comment, the wreckage of the downed Russian plane was still smoldering.

Then, stainding in Paris where the streets are still awash with blood, he made these comments.

By the way, if he wants to investigate why Americans do, in fact, have more shootings than many other places, he can start with the well organized community of Chicago, which s ground zero for gun violence.

Obama...always wrong, yet never in doubt.

Slipknot 12-02-2015 12:11 PM

"a stretch, but not a huge one"

It is a LOT more than a stretch, a flat out lie desperately trying to support his agenda, reaching for words it is clear he has no prompter to read from.

BigFish 12-02-2015 12:46 PM

Wasn't there a mass shooting in Paris a couple weeks ago? Something like 112 people dead? And one several months ago in Paris.....some magazine??? 12 people dead??? He is a jackass!!!!

Nebe 12-02-2015 12:49 PM

There was also a really bad one in Sweden a few years ago
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Rockport24 12-02-2015 01:01 PM

didn't something also happen in Australia not that long ago? the land of no guns!

oh and Spence - we get it, guns are evil and no one should have them but the police and military

beamie 12-02-2015 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 1087676)
Wasn't there a mass shooting in Paris a couple weeks ago? Something like 112 people dead? And one several months ago in Paris.....some magazine??? 12 people dead??? He is a jackass!!!!

Those don't count Larry. They were terrorist type shootings not the typical nut with gun shooting people. It's a different kind of dead. What an ass clown.
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afterhours 12-02-2015 01:43 PM

and people support this clown.

buckman 12-02-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockport24 (Post 1087679)

oh and Spence - we get it, guns are evil and no one should have them but the police and military

Just to be clear, the reason the police carry weapons is to protect themselves not to protect you . I'm a huge supporter of the police but that's the fact
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spence 12-02-2015 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockport24 (Post 1087679)
oh and Spence - we get it, guns are evil and no one should have them but the police and military

I don't believe I've ever said that.

The Dad Fisherman 12-02-2015 03:34 PM

One going on in California right now....
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Nebe 12-02-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1087689)
One going on in California right now....
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What is wrong with people these days ?
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Jim in CT 12-02-2015 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1087690)
What is wrong with people these days ?
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What's wrong, is highly correlated with the growth of secular liberalism (unless it's terrorism). we don't stress the importance of having empathy for others. Each generation is getting more detached, more narcississtic, less able to deal with hearing the word "no".

Rockport24 12-02-2015 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1087684)
Just to be clear, the reason the police carry weapons is to protect themselves not to protect you . I'm a huge supporter of the police but that's the fact
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well not really because its the Police's job to put themselves into harms way to protect the citizens, no?

Rockport24 12-02-2015 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1087685)
I don't believe I've ever said that.

Oh sorry my bad.. withdrawn form the record then!

buckman 12-02-2015 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockport24 (Post 1087696)
well not really because its the Police's job to put themselves into harms way to protect the citizens, no?

I bet 99% of the time a policeman pulls his weapon out of its holster it is to protect himself . But I get your point
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JohnR 12-02-2015 06:02 PM

Mass shootings happen most everywhere. North America, South America, Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia - other than Antartica. Hmmm. Trend.

Nebe 12-02-2015 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1087695)
What's wrong, is highly correlated with the growth of secular liberalism (unless it's terrorism). we don't stress the importance of having empathy for others. Each generation is getting more detached, more narcississtic, less able to deal with hearing the word "no".

Really ? You really think a couple liberals are shooting people right now?

Do you think that the guy who shot up the planned parenthood was a liberal ?

They are religious nut jobs.. Terrorists are religious but jobs and we know for sure that the planned parenthood shooter was one as well. He said he could do what ever he wanted because he knew he "could be saved".

What a joke
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buckman 12-02-2015 06:47 PM

I recommend you guys download the free police scanner app 5.0 . This is crazy stuff
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spence 12-02-2015 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1087703)
Mass shootings happen most everywhere. North America, South America, Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia - other than Antartica. Hmmm. Trend.

Two today and nearly one a day for the entire year. If you're trying to compare us to Honduras or Syria you may have a point :rollem:

spence 12-02-2015 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1087684)
Just to be clear, the reason the police carry weapons is to protect themselves not to protect you . I'm a huge supporter of the police but that's the fact
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Nice, I giant F U to first responders. I didn't think you had that in you to be honest.

buckman 12-02-2015 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1087711)
Two today and nearly one a day for the entire year. If you're trying to compare us to Honduras or Syria you may have a point :rollem:

From what I'm hearing on the scanner and on the news the suspects could very well be from the Middle East so maybe there's a fair comparison
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spence 12-02-2015 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1087721)
From what I'm hearing on the scanner and on the news the suspects could very well be from the Middle East so maybe there's a fair comparison
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I love it, forming opinion from raw intel running over the scanner. What could go wrong?
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spence 12-02-2015 08:18 PM

Regardless this scenario is effed up.
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JohnR 12-02-2015 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1087723)
I love it, forming opinion from raw intel running over the scanner. What could go wrong?
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There are actually a few different and reliable sources (not 4chan) pointing to that but wait until officials say something, ya know, officially.

JohnR 12-02-2015 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1087723)
I love it, forming opinion from raw intel running over the scanner. What could go wrong?
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That's right, the message has not had the opportunity to be properly agipropted spun strategically messaged!

Jim in CT 12-02-2015 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1087705)
Really ? You really think a couple liberals are shooting people right now?

Do you think that the guy who shot up the planned parenthood was a liberal ?

They are religious nut jobs.. Terrorists are religious but jobs and we know for sure that the planned parenthood shooter was one as well. He said he could do what ever he wanted because he knew he "could be saved".

What a joke
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Nebe, I didn't, nor would I ever, say that all mass shooters are registered Democrats. Try to respond to what I am actually saying, try not to put gibberish words in my mouth.

As a society, we are clearly moving away from the traditional family values of, say, the 1950s, in favor of more "progressive" values. As a direct result, we see more infidelity, more divorce, more abortions, more broken families, more unsupervised kids, fewer people going to church, fewer parents signing their kids up for scouting, etc. One of the pillars of liberalism is "if it feels good, do it". As a society, there is less emphasis on what is decent, and more emphasis on what feels good for me.

On top of that, it's much harder, thanks to liberals, to commit the mentally ill until after they hurt someone.

Perfect example...when actress Ingrid Bergman had an affair with a married man (1950s?), people stopped going to her movies, and she eventually had to flee the country. One generation later, Jane Fonda straddles a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun wrapped in our enemy's flag, and she comes home to an academy award. One generation after that, we have college crybabies who want free tuition and student debt wiped out. Gimme, gimme, gimme. Me, me, me.

When we turn our back on family values and instead celebrate what feels good in the next second, why would you ask "what's wrong with people nowadays"? Guess what Nebe? When you tell people to stop paying attention to the 10 commandments, ugly behavior will increase. Guess what? It also turns out that when you plant potatoes, you get potatoes.

Nebe 12-02-2015 10:32 PM

Ah. Ok. I understand better now.
However one can have very solid family values in today's society. But let me ask... Is your wife wishing she was back in the 50's? A wife in the 50's was pretty much supposed to be a shadow and servant of her husband.
How about Mcarthyism ? God forbid someone finds out you are gay... And fughertaboutit if you are black.
It all looks good on paper but I can assure you that we are better off today as a society.
Holy smokes.. The ones shooting people here and "over there" are the folks like you, that don't like what this place has become! Imagine just for a second if everyone took a deep breath and accepted people for who they are.. You know... "Love thy neighbor".

Think on that.

Good night
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Jim in CT 12-02-2015 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1087736)
Ah. Ok. I understand better now.
However one can have very solid family values in today's society. But let me ask... Is your wife wishing she was back in the 50's? A wife in the 50's was pretty much supposed to be a shadow and servant of her husband.
How about Mcarthyism ? God forbid someone finds out you are gay... And fughertaboutit if you are black.
It all looks good on paper but I can assure you that we are better off today as a society.
Holy smokes.. The ones shooting people here and "over there" are the folks like you, that don't like what this place has become! Imagine just for a second if everyone took a deep breath and accepted people for who they are.. You know... "Love thy neighbor".

Think on that.

Good night
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"one can have very solid family values in today's society"

I didn't say no one has decent family values today, I said fewer of us do. When those values decline, and they are declining rapidly, bad things happen.

"Is your wife wishing she was back in the 50's?"

Hell, yes.

"A wife in the 50's was pretty much supposed to be a shadow and servant of her husband. "

Not in my family.

"How about Mcarthyism ?"

Every time period has its screw-ups. Today, we force Christians out of business who want to act according to their beliefs. Today cops are painted as racist assassins.

"I can assure you that we are better off today as a society. "

No, you can't. I would vehemently disagree. Didn't you say on this post, something to the effect of "what's wrong with people today?"

"The ones shooting people here and "over there" are the folks like you"

They're not anything like me.

"Imagine just for a second if everyone took a deep breath and accepted people for who they are.. You know... "Love thy neighbor".

I wish for that as well. But as I said, the sense of feeling obliged to others, is rapidly diminishing, and as today's kids spend half their waking hours on electronic devices, we will be even further disconnected from each other.

"Think on that"

I think about it a great deal. That's why I know I am correct.

"Good night"

You too!

Nebe, find someone, anyone, who has been a teacher for 30+ years, ask them how society is changing, if it's getting better or worse.

Our moral compass is so fu*ked up, it's hard to describe. A Democratic presidential candidate had to apologize for saying "all lives matter". That's just super.

buckman 12-03-2015 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1087723)
I love it, forming opinion from raw intel running over the scanner. What could go wrong?
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I was just trying to keep you informed . Apology excepted
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And the President's response....
dead suspects."

President Barack Obama urged the country to take steps to reduce mass shootings, including stricter gun laws and stronger background checks.

"The one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world," Obama told CBS

buckman 12-03-2015 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1087744)
I was just trying to keep you informed . Apology excepted
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And the President's response....


President Barack Obama urged the country to take steps to reduce mass shootings, including stricter gun laws and stronger background checks.

"The one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world," Obama told CBS

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spence 12-03-2015 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1087729)
One of the pillars of liberalism is "if it feels good, do it". As a society, there is less emphasis on what is decent, and more emphasis on what feels good for me.

This is true Nebe, at the Liberal Headquarters in Berkeley, California there's a big granite obelisk with "if it feels good, do it" chiseled into its surface.

The other liberal pillar "hey, hey, I've got something to say, it's better to burn out than to fade away" is on the other side.

Nebe 12-03-2015 07:53 AM

Before the war in Iraq I noticed a phrase being thrown around on the news. "Weapons of mass distruction". I remember jokingly thinking to myself as to wtf that meant. Such a broad useless term.

Well. I am seeing a new term on the news. "Long guns".
This is just a hunch but I believe the term long gun will be used a lot in the future when the government tried to ban assault rifles.
I could be wrong.....
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spence 12-03-2015 07:59 AM

I believe it's a legal definition.

JohnR 12-03-2015 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1087751)
Before the war in Iraq I noticed a phrase being thrown around on the news. "Weapons of mass distruction". I remember jokingly thinking to myself as to wtf that meant. Such a broad useless term.

This was a fairly common phrase in the cold war, not a common as say non-conventional weapons, but it was used in policy and military circles. The primary connotation was for referencing "NBC"; Nuclear Biological, Chemical,(now called CBRN with the addition of Radiological). So while you had not heard of it, professionals and academics in that space were using it and it had a specific meaning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1087751)

Well. I am seeing a new term on the news. "Long guns".
This is just a hunch but I believe the term long gun will be used a lot in the future when the government tried to ban assault rifles.
I could be wrong.....
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The term "Long Guns" is an old term but occasionally used. Typically refers to longer barreled guns (over 10 inches I think) and would include rifles, shotguns, semi-s, machine guns, etc. I do not understand why the media revived it last night but I would guess that someone did not want to use the term "Assault Weapon" - often inaccurately applied in the media. Then I assume, the rest of the Press/Media kept rolling it.

Should government decide to confiscate these "long guns" we will be in for heavy seas.


Speaking of Media competency: Did anyone see the Chicken that dies of fright last night?


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