Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1110623)

"It has shaken me to my core." -Michellle Obama, speaking out of one side of her mouth about Donald Trump's lewd comments.

"Thank you for being a role model kids everywhere can look up to." -Michelle Obama, speaking out of the other side of her mouth about Beyonce, whose haunting and poetic lyrics include this gem:

"I came to slay, b---h. When he f-----d me good I take his a-s to red lobster"
and

"Now my mascara running, red lipstick smudged/Yeah, he's so horny he wants to f***/ He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse/He Monica Lewinsky-ed all on my gown/Oh Daddy, Daddy, he didn't bring the towel/Oh baby, baby, we better slow it down."

On the same occasion La Obama also spake thus:

"And I can’t believe that I’m saying that a candidate for president of the United States has bragged about sexually assaulting women."

Perhaps during the Clinton years she was out of the country, to say nothing of the years when Ted Kennedy was a senator/ stunt car driver.

Also noteworthy: the First Lady invited a rapper with the apt moniker "Common" to the White House. His Shakespearean eloquence speaks for itself:

""She was a bad (uh), the type at the club n*gg*z would grab her/Fantasized when I had her, in the bathroom sweatin' her a** up."

But Donald Trump shook you to your core.

Uh-huh.

Originally Posted by ecduzitgood (Post 1110626)

Apparently she holds white people to a higher standard.
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1110630)

It really was a great speech.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1110630)

It really was a great speech.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1110636)

Spence, here is another great speech by Michelle Obama. From 2008. In this great speech, Michelle says that Hilary is unfit to be POTUS, because if you can't control your own house, you can't manage the White House.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNj06em7cfo

Now, all of a sudden, Michelle is saying the opposite.

Spence, which is it? Was Michelle full of crap then, or is she full of crap now? Because I don't see how even you could claim she was right both times.

I await your thoughtful answer.

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1110641)

Michelle Obama has a Core ???
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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1110639)

'better the devil you know than the devil you don't',

Originally Posted by FishermanTim (Post 1110640)

She would rather have the worst possible example of a Democrat liar in office than ANY Republican.

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110653)

Apparently, the D liar lies a heck of a lot less then the R liar:

For instance, the fact-checking website PolitiFact found that of the statements by Hillary Clinton that it checked, 22 percent were completely “true” and another 28 percent were “mostly true.”
But Trump is another animal. There is no true equivalency between Trump and Clinton, or between Trump and any other politician, for that matter. Only 4 percent of Trump’s statements that PolitiFact checked were rated as completely “true” and only another 11 percent were even rated as “mostly true.” Seventy percent of Trump’s statements that the site checked were rated as “mostly false,” “false” or “pants on fire,” the site’s worse rating.

PolitiFact has examined 258 Trump statements and 255 Clinton statements and classified them on a scale ranging from “True” to “Pants on Fire.” One might quibble with some of the judgments, but they’re overwhelmingly in the ballpark. And they show two candidates living in different moral universes when it comes to truth-telling. Mr. Trump had 48 Pants on Fire ratings, Mrs. Clinton just six; the G.O.P. nominee had 89 False ratings, the Democrat 27.

Originally Posted by basswipe (Post 1110654)

PolitiFacts?Really?

If y'all believe that crap we really are doomed.

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110653)

For instance, the fact-checking website PolitiFact found that of the statements by Hillary Clinton that it checked, 22 percent were completely “true” and another 28 percent were “mostly true.”

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1110660)

So where did the other 50% go? Glad to see America is OK with someone who's trustworthiness is basically a "Coin Toss"

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110661)

http://www.politifact.com/personalit...llary-clinton/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110658)

So come up with a better source.

I listen to Trump lie out and out daily and say to myself who believes his crap.

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110668)

And like I said "I listen to Trump lie out and out daily and say to myself who believes his crap." I guess I found out. We'll prob. hear more tonight how the election is rigged.
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110668)

And like I said "I listen to Trump lie out and out daily and say to myself who believes his crap." I guess I found out. We'll prob. hear more tonight how the election is rigged.
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Originally Posted by ecduzitgood (Post 1110673)

How about a list of his lies, being daily there should be hundreds to pick from.
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110668)

And like I said "I listen to Trump lie out and out daily and say to myself who believes his crap." I guess I found out. We'll prob. hear more tonight how the election is rigged.
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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1110674)

He doesn't have the option to go into hiding and just hsve the media do his dirty work like Crooked Hillary
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110675)

Look at the 2 links I gave kevin.
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110677)

Your right, the media is biased and when they point out his lies it shows how biased they are😂
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Originally Posted by basswipe (Post 1110676)

Apparently you seem to have no issues with Shrillary's lies though.Amazing.Doomed we are.

As far as rigged goes...ask Bernie about that.Rigged it was and rigged it is.And that was his own party!

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1110683)

Maybe you should give it up about the media bias without recognizing he lies or insults people daily. He shoots himself in the foot, the media covers it and then his followers complain about the media.
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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1110692)

most of the media is spewing propaganda instead of news, they are no longer journalists, cnn,msnbc,new york times, post etc. all bash trump while hiding disparaging stuff that would hurt Clinton. Those accusers of trump have been debunked one after another but you don't see it because you don't look and the word won't get out unless trump does the media's job for them. Fox news will cover it all but liberals and brainwashed people don't watch that. The proof of corruption on all those emails is overwhelming but the left media won't cover it other than saying it is false when the truth is, they are real and the corruption is so eggregious it's unreal. Our judicial system is over-run with lawlessness, they aren't going to admit it. The Democrats will stop at nothing to squash everything.

Clinton is the most corrupt, two faced lying candidate ever to be nominated for President. It is absolutely appalling. And if the collusion of this machine actually gets her elected, you all will own it and the destruction of our country will be on all of you. God help us if she gets enough electoral votes.

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1111712)

Curious to see the proof all the accusers statements have been debunked? I would suppose those that feel all those accusers suddenly came forward to hurt the trump campaign also believe all the accusers of Bill Cosby are all looking for their fifteen minutes of fame.

I don't like either candidate, but I'd put Trump right in the same category as Cosby, the fox CEO and a few men in a position of power I've seen abuse women because they could. My better have has had a career as an HR manager and has seen it first hand as well and we both see him for what he is.
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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1111713)

Where do you put Clinton?
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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1111713)

Where do you put Clinton?
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1111717)

Bill Clinton is right there with them all, powerful man abusing his power because he can; oh I assume you did mean Bill. Still power corrupts absolutely and it isn't gender specific, so the guys don't have a monopoly on that behavior, but if we are going to do the math; I'm sure the men abusing women far overshadows the same happening to men.

Since far more men, at this point in time, have had political or corporate power than women, it stands to reason that the number of men corrupting that power far overshadows the number of women who have. Really not an indicator of anything.

Certainly Bill Clinton wasn't and probably won't be the last man in the oval office to get away with behavior which in today's corporate world, would likely lead to trouble or termination.

Which provokes the question: if so many men who were morally corrupt in sexual behavior were so successful in governing or making corporations profitable, how relevant was their sexual behavior to their ability to perform their jobs? Would it have been better to have morally pure incompetents as Presidents or corporate leaders? That's not to condone immorality, but if the choice is between two corrupt candidates, shouldn't the concern be how they will govern not how they diddle?

And as far as the bullying goes, Hillary doesn't take a back seat to Trump in that respect.


I don't like Hillary, but man I've come to detest Trump. I think he is a corporate bully, the definition of a narcissist, he is abusive to women clearly and I don't trust him to not take our country to the brink of military action that will do more harm to our economy, than the policies the democratic party brings to the table.

Hillary has been a political bully. She is an ideological narcissist, which is more dangerous than run-of-the-mill narcissism, and she has abused the women who were Bill's victims. And her defense of her husband's sexual depravity is as equally corrupt as his immorality.

And I thought that Hillary was militarily considered a hawk. How does she now get a pass on ability to start a war? And I thought the conventional wisdom per WWII was that war brought us out of the depression. I don't agree with that, but I agree with Slipknot that Hillary is more likely to start a war than is Trump.

And, besides, Trump's economic policies will be more beneficial to our economy than Hillary's policies.

But he knows more the all the generals combined, so I guess he might not be as dangerous as all that. Bombing the sh*t out of countries sounds really promising to route out the terrorists, but how many countries are you going to go at, its not like they are all in one camp just hoping Trump doesn't get elected.

I think he said, or meant, that he would bomb the sh*t out of ISIS not out of countries. And it's that old notion of cutting off the head of the snake--bomb them where their power resides. Kill the movement before it becomes a country.

Like I said, I've voted and left the oval office ticket blank, I can't wait until it's over and fear for what might be yet to come.