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Jim in CT 03-17-2017 10:53 AM

Wicked Tuna
 
New season started this past week. My wife, who cannot fathom why anyone goes fishing (other than to eat fresh fish, but she can't grasp what we put ourselves through, and all the waiting, and the Godforesaken hours), loves the show. It's one of only two shows we watch together (Walking Dead is the other).

I don't know anything about this fishery, I am sure a lot of stuff is sensationalized for ratings. But I like watching the captains all making fun of the trust fund baby / pothead on the Pinwheel, and I love watching that jolly, enormous guy on the 'Hot Tuna' with his 2 Rotweillers going berserk every time they hook up.

Does anyone know...are these captains, among the cream of the crop, in that fishery? Or are they just selected for being entertaining?

And how do you not root for Marciano on the Hard Merchandise?

wdmso 03-17-2017 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1118920)
New season started this past week. My wife, who cannot fathom why anyone goes fishing (other than to eat fresh fish, but she can't grasp what we put ourselves through, and all the waiting, and the Godforesaken hours), loves the show. It's one of only two shows we watch together (Walking Dead is the other).

I don't know anything about this fishery, I am sure a lot of stuff is sensationalized for ratings. But I like watching the captains all making fun of the trust fund baby / pothead on the Pinwheel, and I love watching that jolly, enormous guy on the 'Hot Tuna' with his 2 Rotweillers going berserk every time they hook up.

Does anyone know...are these captains, among the cream of the crop, in that fishery? Or are they just selected for being entertaining?

And how do you not root for Marciano on the Hard Merchandise?

And how do you not root for Marciano on the Hard Merchandise?

I like him he just fishes the dot com guy he puts fish in the boat its all scripted

Clammer 03-17-2017 02:56 PM

Still gotta catch them

Dave c on the .com is a airplane pilot . so this is bonus money ....................... Dave marcinio should stay up north & skip the outta bank series .But then again someone told me ???? each boat gets 70K a series ><><>

Jim in CT 03-17-2017 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1118935)
And how do you not root for Marciano on the Hard Merchandise?

I like him he just fishes the dot com guy he puts fish in the boat its all scripted

I am sure it is largely scripted.

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Originally Posted by Clammer (Post 1118936)
Still gotta catch them

Dave c on the .com is a airplane pilot . so this is bonus money ....................... Dave marcinio should stay up north & skip the outta bank series .But then again someone told me ???? each boat gets 70K a series ><><>

This season's premiere, the kid on the Pinwheel supposedly fought a 500 pounder for 12 hours. If that wasn't scripted, that's pretty cool.

I am sure they get some kind of compensation like that, plus I am sure that with the TV exposure, the captains are selling merchandise on their websites and get appearance fees now. At one point it was the highest rated show on that network (National Geographic?).

beamie 03-17-2017 03:33 PM

It's a great show if you don't know the gig.

Sensationalized, scripted etc. not much reality in reality tv.

Nice to watch in the winter. Just divid all the prices by 3 at least. Yes sometimes some tuna take 12 hours to land. It happens but then you'll be lucky if the buyer says $2 a lb.

Still fun to watch.
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nightfighter 03-17-2017 06:12 PM

Yes, the price per pound quoted is BS. Really don't see the reasoning to inflate those prices....
Saw Dave from dotcom and Ralph from seasons past at RISAA, but had no interest in even making eye contact, nevermind conversation or buying merchandise. Life is too short.
I wonder if Natgeo is ever going to show how they bleed, clean, and ice the fish properly to protect the meat quality.... They educate the viewer on every other aspect it seems except this.
I would like to see Sandro get his own gig. Even if they don't have cameras onboard. There are a number of guys who are as good or better than the captains on the show, but they would not consider having a film crew onboard.
I don't think they get that much (70k) per show. Whatever the number is, it is nowhere near what the Deadliest Catch captains get.

Clammer 03-17-2017 06:30 PM

Ross , I heard 70k per series ????

nightfighter 03-17-2017 06:34 PM

I stand corrected, Mike. Misread your post.

Clammer 03-17-2017 06:41 PM

no big deal ><>

piemma 03-18-2017 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1118935)
And how do you not root for Marciano on the Hard Merchandise?

I like him he just fishes the dot com guy he puts fish in the boat its all scripted

I agree. Love that guy! He's the real deal.

MakoMike 03-18-2017 02:18 PM

According to Dave Marciano, there are a lot of goings on that they don't air on the show. Bleeding and icing tuna is just one of them. Notice you never see them rigging up? Ever see one of them use a bomb or a kite?

Raider Ronnie 03-18-2017 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 1119001)
According to Dave Marciano, there are a lot of goings on that they don't air on the show. Bleeding and icing tuna is just one of them. Notice you never see them rigging up? Ever see one of them use a bomb or a kite?

Would people expect them to give their bank account numbers and passwords also ?
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nightfighter 03-19-2017 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1119016)
Would people expect them to give their bank account numbers and passwords also ?
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I find it difficult to see how processing a fish properly even remotely compares to the private information you list.......

niko 03-19-2017 09:00 AM

i'm pretty sure nat geo doesn't want to show the general public how a tuna gets processed. the peta/pew crowd would lose their minds, that might be fun

beamie 03-19-2017 09:16 AM

Kind of like when they were showing the harpoon boat they never mention the whole zapper thing and instant death to the fish. Don't think the public would go for that.........

Guppy 03-19-2017 04:18 PM

They'd love watching me stomp blue fish on the head with the heel on my knee highs, hook come out easy after that move.... :cool:

nightfighter 03-19-2017 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by niko (Post 1119026)
i'm pretty sure nat geo doesn't want to show the general public how a tuna gets processed. the peta/pew crowd would lose their minds, that might be fun

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Originally Posted by beamie (Post 1119029)
Kind of like when they were showing the harpoon boat they never mention the whole zapper thing and instant death to the fish. Don't think the public would go for that.........


All true, but it is NatGeo and reality TV...........:bl:

niko 03-19-2017 08:11 PM

Reality my ass
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Raider Ronnie 03-19-2017 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1119021)
I find it difficult to see how processing a fish properly even remotely compares to the private information you list.......



Why would anyone of them want to teach the viewers how to properly prep a fish, rig a dead/stick bait or rig tackle ???
It's the difference between guys who know what they are doing and making $ and those who don't and the fish ending up as cat food.
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Got Stripers 03-20-2017 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1119048)
They'd love watching me stomp blue fish on the head with the heel on my knee highs, hook come out easy after that move.... :cool:

Did Clammer teach you that one:)

Got Stripers 03-20-2017 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by niko (Post 1119066)
Reality my ass
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Can't watch it, just does nothing for me, IMHO one of the best fishing shows ever was the Spanish Fly; man do I miss that show.

Clammer 03-20-2017 08:40 AM

notice I said nothing Bob ><><:angel:

bassballer 03-20-2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1119104)
Can't watch it, just does nothing for me, IMHO one of the best fishing shows ever was the Spanish Fly; man do I miss that show.

Spanish fly was the all time great fishing show. Theres your difference. Wicked Tuna is not a Fishing show. Its a reality show about tuna fishing.

Jim in CT 03-20-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bassballer (Post 1119110)
Spanish fly was the all time great fishing show. Theres your difference. Wicked Tuna is not a Fishing show. Its a reality show about tuna fishing.

I also liked Walkers Cay Chronicles.

On Wicked Tuna, the captains never, ever haggle price with the buyer. On the show, the buyer says "I'll give you $X a pound", and the captain says "deal". There is never any back and forth. Is that how it goes in real life?

Rockfish9 03-20-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1118938)
I am sure it is largely scripted.



This season's premiere, the kid on the Pinwheel supposedly fought a 500 pounder for 12 hours. If that wasn't scripted, that's pretty cool.

I am sure they get some kind of compensation like that, plus I am sure that with the TV exposure, the captains are selling merchandise on their websites and get appearance fees now. At one point it was the highest rated show on that network (National Geographic?).

12 hours and the fish was primo..perfect core..I've cooked 'em in 45 minutes...

Rockfish9 03-20-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1119104)
Can't watch it, just does nothing for me, IMHO one of the best fishing shows ever was the Spanish Fly; man do I miss that show.

Jose' was awesome... X2 on missing that...I only got sucked into watching W.T. because there was NOTHIING else on.. and I needed to be bored to sleep..

tlapinski 03-20-2017 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bassballer (Post 1119110)
Wicked Tuna is not a Fishing show. Its a reality show about tuna fishing.

BINGO! Anyone who thinks that WT is a fishing show doesn't really know fishing. I've spoken to a couple of the WT captains over the years and been filled in on some of the inner-workings of how they "get the shot" for the show. I never looked at the show the same after getting a look behind the curtain and pretty much never watch it now. Even my 4-year-old son finds it boring and he'll watch anything fishing-related on TV.

Jim in CT 03-20-2017 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockfish9 (Post 1119118)
12 hours and the fish was primo..perfect core..I've cooked 'em in 45 minutes...

The exertion causes some kind of acid buildup or something? I hadn't seen a fight nearly that long in the whole series, my wife was wondering if it would effect the quality of the meat.

Do you fish for them a lot? Must be something to see such an animal. Amazing beauty and power. I have a few small yellowfins under my belt, nothing like that. I also liked seeing the whales last night, lots of whales in some scenes..

I get that it's scripted and heavily edited, and I'm sure that experienced tuna fisherman find some of it laughably un-realistic.

I'm not watching it as a "how-to" instruction video for catching giants. But especially as an ignoramus, I do find a few aspects of the show to be entertaining and worth watching. I dunno, for me, it's worth watching just to see the wildlife, the beautiful New England harbors they go in and out of, and getting some kind of glimpse into what it's like...watching them catch bait, how the winner might catch a bakers' dozen fish over an entire season, seeing how much hard work goes into it, how hard it must be in the dark, in stormy weather..

And they are getting better with the photography - more underwater shots, more drone shots from above.

And I like watching TJ's Rottweillers go berserk every time they hook up.

spinncognito 03-20-2017 03:04 PM

Being from Gloucester I have watched a few of the landings and witnessed the filming of "Takes" to get the best reactions. It is entertainment and the scenery coming in and out of our harbor and river is very cool.

buckman 03-20-2017 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1119114)
I also liked Walkers Cay Chronicles.

On Wicked Tuna, the captains never, ever haggle price with the buyer. On the show, the buyer says "I'll give you $X a pound", and the captain says "deal". There is never any back and forth. Is that how it goes in real life?

No , in real life you find out a week or more after you catch it , what you are getting and you're almost always disappointed .
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MAKAI 03-20-2017 10:18 PM

That show is like ambien to me, 2 minutes and I'm snoring like a baby.
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Got Stripers 03-21-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Clammer (Post 1119105)
notice I said nothing Bob ><><:angel:

Cracked me up none the less.

RIROCKHOUND 03-21-2017 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1119152)
No , in real life you find out a week or more after you catch it , what you are getting and you're almost always disappointed .
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Especially if it doesn't ship to Tokyo and sells domestically...
I never make a point to watch it, but occasionally catch a few minutes. My favorite is how even on the troll the take is the same click..click..click...zzzz rather than a beer keg falling on the bait... no click click click then!

buckman 03-21-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1119182)
Especially if it doesn't ship to Tokyo and sells domestically...
I never make a point to watch it, but occasionally catch a few minutes. My favorite is how even on the troll the take is the same click..click..click...zzzz rather than a beer keg falling on the bait... no click click click then!

We made more domestically last year .
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SilverKing 03-21-2017 04:26 PM

By the looks of some of these guys they certainly have put their time in on the water. The 12hr fight was insane I guess worth the $10,000 plus in the pocket. Give me a rock!

PRBuzz 03-22-2017 08:01 AM

Not sure when/if it will air but IF I remember Paulie got a tuna that sold (actual not WT BS) for $50/lb last year.

Clammer 03-22-2017 09:28 AM

WT still beats the sh :lurk:it out of watching the national news B/S

boot man 03-22-2017 02:27 PM

Just watched the new Dave Chappelle on Netflix. He looks just like an African American version of Marciano. Pretty funny.
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MAKAI 03-23-2017 10:21 AM

Dave has a unique wit.
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