Space force
 

http://video.foxnews.com/v/579891713...#sp=show-clips


when is enough a enough seriously

you'd think the moonbats would be in favor

They’re just upset because they didn’t think of it first

All the Trekkies are conflicted now
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Wasn’t th starship troopers part of space force ?
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Pioneering
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Pushing and expanding the limits of scientific knowledge, is of no value. At least, not unless a democrat thought of it first.

Far be it for anyone to break it down as a worthy consideration - ya know because Trump said it so it must be bad therefore we are required to near jerk to the opposite viewpoint.

Well, a couple weeks ago a pretty smart guy when it comes to NatSec stuff & the re-emerging Great Power Competition penned this.

So before all y'all trash, read:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...rity-interest/

They penned this also
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ing-dictators/
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The republican party doesn't believe in scientific knowledge you of all people should know that.. and seems in accounting as well... hows he going to pay for it ???

very fishy wouldn't you say

About as dumb a false equivalency as you've stated, IMO. Shall we go through the instances where NYT is right or wrong? The Atlantic?

Jerry Hendrix is a pretty smart policy wonk and a recognized expert. You probably would have been OK with it were it penned on Mother Jones, though. Right?

No. Please do tell us what you mean.

PS - I don't think a separate "Force" is the answer. But we do need to better factor in what peer/near peer competition is doing in space - as well as our role in that space.

Who says we don’t like science? How about the science of what goes on in the womb, which side abandons science for ideology in that case?

We can pay for it by switching all public employees from stupid fat pensions to self funded 401ks like everyone else did over 20 years ago. There’s your accounting lesson.
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TRUMP reads the story on the 8th and makes an announcement 18th or did he see it on fox and friends

That is more my issue with the announcement ... we dont need another branch we have been developing space weapons for decades it's not new

I went down to the recruiter to sign up, but saw Spence in line ahead of me and decided maybe I will wait on joining the Space Force.

On a more serious note, I think, the more crazy stuff he throws out there the more the media and left don't see what he is actually doing. He's like a magician drawing attention away from his hand that holds the coin. If the democrats don't keep a careful eye on what is happening before they know it they will see a new immigration policy sneak by them, while they are laughing at the Space Force.

It always about abortion but once their born your tune changes

You sound like a socialist wanting to take bread off another's table because you don't have what they have....

It's scary that you don't have an issue with the POTUS acting in such a manner

You brought up science. Abortion is an issue where the left ignores science. And anytime arithmetic has to do with pensions.

No friend, I don’t want what’s yours. You are the one who wants, and expects, me to fund my retirement as well as yours. If you want a fat pension you can save up and buy one, why does the public have to buy it for you? It’s the public unions who are entitled to what I have. Not vice versa.
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I think you are confusing science and religion. You are a messed up person. Every statement you make is " the left... The left..." There are plenty of people on the left who have intelligent, well thought out views about abortion laws. Not everyone who disagrees with you is wrong.
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No, actually I thought they were correct on both counts.
My father worked in aerospace as. An engineer for most of his working life for ARMA, Northrup and Simmons. All the stuff to the moon and beyond.
It would be good to see that pursuit of knowledge again.
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your just another angry guy.. I pay into my own retirement I get paid to do a Job that you decided you didn't want ... Corporate America and the private sector played you and are still Screwing hard working Americans like yourself .. but its easier to blame the person to your left and the right of you than the hand that feds you ...

seems the states with those you despise with the most public employees per capita are Majority Red

http://www.governing.com/news/headli...-analysis.html


So you think space force is a great Idea

yup...

So it’s ok for wdmso to say that republicans don’t like science, but it’s “messed up” when I respond. Only the left gets to attack on party lines, I missed that announcement, but you have my deepest apologies. When you can’t make someone wrong, but you don’t have it in you to admit they have a point, you can always attack.
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So you’re not necessarily angry when you say I don’t like science, but I’m angry when I show what a stupid statement that is. Got it.

Youvpay a portion of the cost of your pension, and you feel entitled to ask your neighbors to pay for the rest. Is that true, or is that false?

The private sector you endlessly slam, is where every cent of your compensation comes from. Every cent, comes from taxes confiscated from your neighbors. How can you be that ungrateful and unappreciative? I was a public schoolteacher in CT, and I always was aware of the debt I owed to people that worked in the private sector, and I also saw firsthand the contempt that many public servants have for the public they claim to serve.
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Except a Space Force is federal - which was left out of the link / stats you provided

So the Red states are more likely to have more Public Sector Employees.

Now let's do the states that pay most on average. Bet you won't guess which ones they are. I wonder of the red states can afford more public employees?


https://thestacker.com/stories/354/b...c-employees#51

Did anyone actually watch Trump’s announcement?
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The problem is that once again Trump doesn't understand that he does not rule.
He cannot create anything, he needs Congress to do it.
I will admit that I don't understand why we need NASA, Air Force and Space Force as separate entities. They seem to be redundant and on the development and operations sides the personnel would be very similar.

You generally don't have a point when you think you do is the point. You throw out nonsense as if it is fact. If it wasn't you, I might suggest you have 20-30 children. Think of all those potential lives you are preventing by limiting your procreation.

You dont understand the private sector does a job they have no obligation to thank people like you who for what ever reason think they should get a pat on the back for paying the same taxes they do the arrogance is stunning

I guess cost of living isn't a consideration in your eyes

Public sector employees derive wealth from taxes (yes you pay taxes too, but you are on the receiving end as well). Private sector employees see a loss of wealth from taxes. Is that going too fast?

Not sure what you are saying, but I have worked both in the private sector and the public sector, and I always felt grateful to those who funded my income.

Public sector employees have a deeper obligation to their customers (the pubic), because unlike the private sector (where you must make customers freely choose to give you their money), in the public sector, you forcibly confiscate money from your customers (neighbors) with the force of law. You therefore have a higher duty not to rip people off. But your union does exactly that, by demanding your neighbors pay a good chunk of the price tag for benefits that they will never, ever see. You feel entitled to demand that your neighbors pay for benefit t hat they will never see. I don't get where that sense of entitlement comes from.

"You generally don't have a point "

Die-hard liberals often fail to see points that are based on common sense, logic, and a desire for everyone (not just me) to thrive.

"You throw out nonsense "

Sometimes I do, unfortunately. Not usually.

"I might suggest you have 20-30 children"

Here in the People's Republic Of Konnecticut, thanks to liberalism, my 3 are about all I can afford. I wish I could have 4 or 5.

"Think of all those potential lives you are preventing by limiting your procreation"

Based on what I see in my kids, it is indeed society's loss. we could use a lot more people like them.

You should consider moving. It is really sad. Think of all those lives. You could also get another job or save by not paying for charter trips. Cut back a little, you know? Do it for those potential lives that are lost every year. If this is important to you, do whatever you can to make it happen.

Also, I have no doubt your kids are wonderful. My kids are also greatly influenced by their mother and many kids turn out well despite us ;)
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"You should consider moving"

I have considered it, thanks...my elderly parents live a mile away, my wife who stays at home helps them with all manner of chores...they aren't moving, and they'd be cosmically screwed if I left. I could do more for my kids if we moved, but I can't do anything for my parents if we moved.

"It is really sad"

What's sad is that thanks to the exact policies you support, I am in the awesome position of getting to choose between my responsibility to my children, and my responsibility to my parents, to whom I owe everything. It's a great spot to be in. And all thanks to liberal economics.

"many kids turn out well despite us ;)"

Certainly true in my case!

I did the math, I am good at this math. I could move to NH, and pocket more than $900 a month, every month, for the rest of my career, 20 years. And that's based on today. In the near future, CT will become more expensive relative to NH, as we raise taxes again and again.

There's no way I could cut back enough to generate that kind of scratch every month. The penalty we pay to live in CT, is enormous. With very little to show for it.

Spacewaffen special wooops.
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Beam me up Scotty
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Ok, Donald :)
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Come on, I'm not that much of an egomaniac.

NH has no state income tax. You don't need to be Stephen Hawking to figure out how that helps you, you go to your latest tax return and see what you paid in state income taxes.