Petrushka
 

In Syria (and in Ukraine), Trump basically switched which side we were on in a war. He switched us to the Russian side. Counter to America’s interest, over and over, he does what’s best for Russia.
He has no strong convictions on foreign policy other than when he’s advancing Russia’s agenda or defending Putin.
He is obviously compromised. Why are we acting as though there’s any chance in the world he’s not?
It doesn’t even matter if there’s Russian money in his businesses or whether there’s a pee tape. At this point, he’s afraid they’ll undermine his legitimacy by admitting they helped him win or that they won’t help him win next time. Either way, Russia owns him.
At every step of the way, he is executing Russian foreign policy. He is basically Putin’s foreign minister. They have him. It’s over.

Reason enough to impeach.

yup....he's got almost everyone fooled but you peto...keep up the great work..babushka baba yaga

:rolleyes:

At this point,his family should intervene.
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I'd miss the chuckles

you and tdf are one a roll.!! remember to tip your waitresses, they’ll be here all week.
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genius.
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Possible Trump motives

1) Protecting income flow from Trump Towers Istanbul

2) Payoff to Turkey to cover up recording of Khashoggi murder by Trump allies

3) Obeisance to Putin

4) Warning to House: if you impeach me, Ill burn every American alliance and interest before I go

What the US just did in quitting Northern Syria and abandoning one of our strongest allies the Kurds sends a chilling message to would-be allies around the world: don’t bother committing to us, because we aren’t committed to you.

It’s been debated for the better part of 4 yrs in gop circles the damage that Trump is capable of doing to our national security - the consensus among gop elected officials and national security types is US can survive 4 years but not 8. This would be the moment to say that out loud.

you conveniently left out. 5th possible motive, that the mission was to fight ISIS there, with the kurds,, and we won, and thus is trump fulfilling an explicit promise to avoid endless wars.

if there’s an issue with turkey, why does that only fall in us? why can’t the UN help out? why does the UN exist, anyway?
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by what math can we survive 4 but not 8? consensus among who, exactly?

didn’t we pull out of iraq
under the last administration, with negative consequences there? i don’t remember you posting about that.
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And it is a Great Birthday Present for his Master, Vlad

pete you may also be interested to know that lindsay graham, who i believe you called trumps pet, is attacking trumps decision to withdraw.

the pullout looks like a potentially awful move to me.
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WOW...peto busting out the thesaurus....nice work!

he heard that from AOC

Stable Geniuses cannot figure out the difference between 4 and 8 as it pertains to a President.
Maybe Jacob Wohl could explain it to you.

there is only one Stable Genius

i see you have zero explanation as to why we can survive 4 years but not 8. not a syllable to
support that made up, self serving statement.
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One term or two
And no as the most diehard Trump supporter, who doesn’t really like him, you certainly are not among the people with doubts about anything Trump does
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You have no clue on the topic... Please stop
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i get that 1 term is 4 years and 2 terms is 8 years.

please explain why our
national security can withstand one term but not two. what exactly will
happen in the second term?

that’s not a fear tactic, no sir.
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Are you getting as petty as the rest of them here?
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enlighten me then. what’s going to happen in the next 4 years that will destroy us? be specific.

insults from a guy who doesn’t know the senate is part of congress.
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Nikki Haley
@NikkiHaley
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We must always have the backs of our allies, if we expect them to have our back. The Kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against ISIS in Syria. Leaving them to die is a big mistake.

Why does he always sound like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain, is it him speaking or Stephen Miller?

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch over...

so you like Nikki Haley now?

if she and Mattis think it's bad, that’s about enough for me. unless he got assurances from turkey that they wouldn’t invade, and no one is saying he did that.

Haley will likely run in 2024. she appreciates your support.
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Yep
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because it is peto....good job uncovering that:claps:

stop, you really don't have it in you and it doesn't come naturally.
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have you ever asked a liberal here to cool it with the insults?
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There is no one here who has made as many insults, for as long as you have. Plus, I know what a.nice guy Kevin is.
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Not having a clue is not an insult its a fact


President George W. Bush who signed the Status of Forces agreement in 2008, which planned for all American troops to be out of Iraq by the end of 2011.

State Department's lawyers said troops couldn't stay in Iraq unless the Iraqi parliament authorized them to do so, including granting them immunity from Iraqi law. The Iraqi parliamentarians would never OK such a decision, with Iraqi popular opinion staunchly against U.S. troops staying.
So we left.

What happened next was on them

As for next 4 years not sure what your talking about.. my comments were directed at your incorrect Iraq comments
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silly me, i was under the impression that when Pete went after TDFs daughters specifically, that was an insult. Spence has never disagreed with me without insulting me. but those don’t count. very enlightening.
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Here are some comments from Brent McGurk, President Trump's former Special Presidential Envoy to Counter ISIS

Donald Trump is not a Commander-in-Chief. He makes impulsive decisions with no knowledge or deliberation. He sends military personnel into harm’s way with no backing. He blusters and then leaves our allies exposed when adversaries call his bluff or he confronts a hard phone call.

The WH statement tonight on Syria after Trump spoke with Erdogan demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of anything happening on the ground. The “United States” is not holding any ISIS detainees. They are all being held by the SDF, which Trump just served up to Turkey.

Turkey has neither the intent, desire, nor capacity to manage 60k detainees in al Hol camp, which State and DoD IGs warn is the nucleus for a resurgent ISIS. Believing otherwise is a reckless gamble with our national security. Background here https://thesoufancenter.org/wp-conte...pen-Letter.pdf

The Turkish proposed “safe zone” would effectively extend Turkey’s border 30km into Syria, including areas of Christians, Kurds, and other vulnerable minorities. Our diplomats were working on a plan to forestall such a debacle. Where’s Pompeo?

Indeed, US officials signed the SDF up to a “security mechanism” plan by which it removed all defensive barriers on the Syrian side of the border to forestall a Turkish incursion. EUCOM issued this just yesterday. Was Trump ever even briefed on this plan?

Trump made a similarly impulsive decision when I was managing the policy. I resigned over it and stand by every word in this op-ed. Tonight is a sad replay but seems even worse as US officials had since convinced the SDF that we planned to stay.

There’s a similar defect at the core of US foreign policies across the board: maximalist objectives for a minimalist president combined with no process to assess facts, develop options, or prepare contingencies. Our personnel are left exposed at the slightest moment of friction.

Bottom line: Trump tonight after one call with a foreign leader provided a gift to Russia, Iran, and ISIS. FWIW, I warned of this here in Foreign Affairs https://www.foreignaffairs.com/artic...d-truths-syria and recommended alternatives given the hard realities on the ground and in this White House.

PS I didn't have any idea what TDF's children identified as but given his post earlier and the image he identified with, you likely can understand the confusion.

If you don't think you insulted more people here than anyone else you're living in a fantasy world
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That didn't take long, let's see what spineless Trump does now.
He was rolled yesterday by Ergodan, not surprising considering that one of his many false claims is to be a great negotiator.

Jerusalem Post Breaking News
TURKEY ATTACKS KURDS, SDF IN IRAQ, SYRIA AS U.S. WITHDRAWS
BY JERUSALEM POST STAFF OCTOBER 7, 2019 22:34



Breaking news
Breaking news. (photo credit: JPOST STAFF)


Turkish forces carried out attacks against Kurdish forces and the anti-Assad Syrian Democratic Forces militia in Syria and Iraq near the Turkish border on Monday evening.

Turkish forces attacked SDF positions in the city of al-Malikiyah in northern Syria, according to Syrian state news agency SANA.The Turkish Air Force "neutralized" three PKK (Kurdistan Workers' Party) members in northern Iraq on Monday, according to the Turkish National Defense Ministry, reported the Turkish Anadolu Agency.

The attacks were carried out in the Gara region near the Turkey-Iraq border.

Earlier on Monday, the United States announced that it would be withdrawing from Syria.

Why don’t you stfu with your victim act. We know you are a snowflake but you have to jam it down our throat just to stick out as the leader of stupidity. Good grief, do you have my pity.
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NK: Fire and fury, little Rocket Man plays Trump, Trump legitimizes this horrific regime, Kim keeps testing.

Russia: Putin helps Trump in 2016, plays Trump like a fiddle, locks pee tapes up for later use, Trump does Putin's dirty work for him.

China: Trump tries to play hard ball, China knows it can wait him out, trade war costing US consumers and Trump needs to bail out farmers to save face.

Iran: Trump pulls out of agreement thinking he is going to play hard ball to get better deal, all the while pissing off our allies. Iran starts to play it's own game of hard ball, seizing tankers and blowing up 50% of the Saudia's oil production, in addition to shooting down a multi-million dollar US drone.

Ukraine: Trump knows Putin would like to get a little more territory and he feels he can help his bud, while at the same time delaying military aid to get some dirt on his 2016 main rival.

Finland: Possibly Trump was after another cold lily white purchase since the Greenland purchase fell flat.

Nato and Allies: Trump says I know more than all of you combined, so go f*ck yourselves, I'm building Trump Island and it's going to be the best ever.

Foreign policy at it's finest. Actually his policy is send all your ambassadors and envoys to my family run resorts and hotels and we can talk..........wink...wink. Call me, but only on my private number please.