Is Lindsey's spine regenerating?
 

His tweets this am

I hope President Trump is right in his belief that Turkeys invasion of Syria is of no concern to us, abandoning the Kurds won’t come back to haunt us, ISIS won’t reemerge, and Iran will not fill the vacuum created by this decision.

However, I firmly believe that if President Trump continues to make such statements this will be a disaster worse than President Obama’s decision to leave Iraq.

I worry we will not have allies in the future against radical Islam, ISIS will reemerge, & Iran’s rise in Syria will become a nightmare for Israel.

I fear this is a complete and utter national security disaster in the making and I hope President Trump will adjust his thinking.

The statements by President Trump about Turkey’s invasion being of no concern to us also completely undercut Vice President Pence and Sec. Pompeo’s ability to end the conflict.

So to you, anytime he disagrees with Trump, that's showing spine. Any time he sides with Trump, he's being cowardly. It's not possible, that siding with Trump could ever be the right thing to do? Not in any situation? Not in the Kavanaugh witch trials?

Just keep defending Putin’s Puppet

Trump folds again like the unstudied fool that he is.

President Trump: “PKK (Kurds) are a greater threat than ISIS.” Not a single National Security adviser to the president would agree with that statement. Turkish talking point.
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I find that all politicians have no spine when they are in power. The moment that they think they could loose it, magically, a spine appears until they are complacent again.
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The Stable Genius said today in his presser with the latest unlucky foreign leader:
"Lindsey Graham would like to stay in the Middle East for the next 1,000 years with thousands of soldiers fighting other people's wars. I'd like to get out of the Middle East. I think Lindsey should focus right now on Judiciary, like the Democrats — the do-nothing Democrats as I call them because they're getting nothing done. They're not getting USMCA done between Canada, the United States and Mexico. They're getting nothing done."

Graham's response:
"I will do anything I can to help him, but I will also become President Trump's worst nightmare. I will not sit along the sidelines and watch a good ally, the Kurds, be slaughtered by Turkey... This is a defining moment for President Trump. He needs to up his game."

Mr. President, forget about what I’m saying about Syria.

Listen to your own national security team who are telling you the consequences of your decision and the impact it will have on our nation.

President Trump is being told EXACTLY what President Obama was told before he withdrew from Iraq.

He appears to be hell-bent on making the same mistakes in Syria as President Obama made in Iraq.

When it comes to America's national security I will NEVER be quiet.

The worst thing any Commander in Chief can do is to give land back to the enemy that was taken through blood and sacrifice.

I fear those are the consequences of the actions being taken right now.

I think the Republicans are sharpening their knives, Trump has no clue about how fast things can change.
He thinks he is King, the coup he whines about will come from within his own party.

Pelosi statement
I am deeply concerned that the White House has canceled an all-Member classified briefing on the dangerous situation the President has caused in Syria, denying the Congress its right to be informed as it makes decisions about our national security.

Romney
Sen. Romney on US troop withdrawal from northern Syria:

"Turkey let us know what they were going to do. This is not a surprise. Everybody told the administration what would happen ... The reality is what's happening in Syria is a result of our decision."

So if I say that Trump is capable of being right some of the time, that's "defending Putin's puppet". Unless I critix=cize every single thing he does, I'm a Trumplican.

Pete, if only the world were that simple.

"President Trump: “PKK (Kurds) are a greater threat than ISIS.”

It's a bone headed thing to say.

That's the difference between us. I can readily admit when he says something stupid, but you can't admit when he does something terrific. Like with the economy, or wiping out student loans for disabled vets.

Romney, who the entire left and media made fun of, when he said Russia was an adversary. Now all of a sudden, he's an authority on such things.

When he's in teh way of a democrat, he is to be mocked. When he's attacking Trump, he is to be taken seriously.

Cant have it both ways.

Pete is a propaganda machine. Nothing makes sense unless it belittles our president
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correct. the entire religion is based on orange man bad. thats the only commandment. everyone who disagrees with trump is virtuous, everyone who agrees with him on anything, is a hatemonger. you can’t have a conversation anymore. i mean there are times when detbuch and scott disagree with me 100%, but we can talk rationally and no one is furious or foaming at the mouth. it’s not easy to do that with those inflicted with TDS.
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Lindsey warned America who Trump was, then oh crap he got elected and I have to kiss his butt and then he proved how dangerous he was and crossed even his red line. Just imagine how different this political landscape would be if we had term limits.
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Don’t forget doing away with electoral college too!
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so it’s not possible
that Graham, based on admirable principle, hated what the liberals tried to do to kavanaugh? that can only be a cowardly ploy to suck up to trump?

i think graham dislikes trump. and i think he hates how dirty the democrats play, especially with kavanaugh.

the true conservatives have never liked graham, he was always way too moderate. i like moderate. again, every time he criticizes trump he’s a hero, every time he agrees with trump he’s a whore?

i agree on term limits 100%.
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Perhaps you’ve missed Twitler’s Letter to Ergodan
A Diplomatic, no a letter an elementary school child would have written.
Just keep believing fools
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The scariest thing about Trump's letter to Erdogan isn't that Trump dictated it. It's that no one--the national security adviser, the chief of staff, the Secretary of State (all of whom I presume saw it before it was sent)--could persuade him not to send it. Did they even try?
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i’m talking about graham, can you put trump’s actions
aside for three seconds, and tell me if it’s humanly possible for Lindsay Graham to be in the side side of an issue with Trump, and do so because of decent principles? or is it always a character flaw, 100% of the time, to side with trump instead of liberals?
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It’s a character flaw to side with Putin’s Puppet.
Period
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there you have it. if trump eliminates student loans for disabled vets, it’s a character flaw to celebrate that.

That’s the definition of TDS. What trump does, doesn’t matter. All that matters, is opposing him all of the time.

that doesn’t sound irrational to you?
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if Maxine Waters and AOC had a baby it would be Pete

at least he admitted it.

“Trump drank a glass of water today! You know who else liked water? Hitler, that’s who!”.
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Jim what irrational is someone who constantly trys to put a postive face on Trump. Regardless of his actions.. thats TDS ..
He is in charge so yes he is responsible for the good and bad in his administration.. to bad there is more bad than good.. not sure how thats anyones fault other than Trump
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Your starting to bc like SD.

The real truth is no matter who is president,half will not approve. When it happens to a candidate who was elected via electoral college,it means more than half will not approve. I accept this as simple math.
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yeah, but I'm much nicer to you:wavey:

you are. I'm sure a better fisherman also. :buds:

you guys crack me up...

i agree it’s not rational to always put a positive spin on everything trump does. why isn’t it equally irrational, to always put a negative spin on everything he does? Isnt it equally irrational.

i call him out all the time when he acts like a jerk. i also give him credit when he does something good. that’s called being fair. i did the same thing with obama.
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Yesterday in Bizzaro World
-Donald likely committed tax fraud for years
-Presser with President Mozzerella
-Had a complete meltdown in front of Pelosi
-Claimed he wasn't concerned with freed ISIS fighters
-His crazy letter to Erdogan
-He tried to unite a family with their child's killer by surprise in the White House

Just stand by while he pulls the troops out of Korea and Europe
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he campaigned on bringing troops home. he subsequently won the election. so it seems to me, the american people want troops brought home, no?

so when he breaks a campaign promise, you attack him. When he keeps a campaign promise, you attack him.

obama liked to say “elections have subsequences.”.
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Trump then cut Schumer off and called Mattis "the world's most overrated general,"

More defense of Trump shocking. Pulls 1000 out from the kurds gives sends 10k to the Saudis .. still in Afghanistan still in Africa, Korea japan Germany Qatar thats the short list

You really need to try to see the bigger picture .. you and Trump are running out of cherry's to pick to support your defense of his decisions. And if you think a campaign promises superceded national security your uninformed ..
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Our security is tied to stability and security in key areas of the globe and I’d argue most Americans understand that and to suggest most Americans want all our troops home is a big stretch. Even most republicans serving overseas or in Congress or the Senate understand that to, which is why the recent vote passed easily.
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most honest president in modern history:wave:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ede_story.html

Don’t ruin it for the flakes
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You guys didn't read the article.

If the author has no morals and doesn't mind the constant lies (which he admits in the article), that is on him.

When Erdogan meets with Putin, he displays a Russian flag of same size as Turkish. When he meets with Pence, TWO Turkish flags in background, one dinky little US flag on table. Visual statement of disdain by Erdogan for the United States and its weak, easily manipulated president

For you, everything is about Trump. Don't let it become unhealthy for you.

Erdogan has been pushing Turkey more and more away from its decent time of more secularism, into a much more thugish, more authoritarian state. He is stirring the pot and getting sucked into the RUS/PRC spheres of influence. This did not start in January 2017

i don’t believe most americans are opposed to any and all military intervention. i do think that obama’s election and trumps election, suggest that americans aren’t thrilled with the idea of endless intervention in that particular regions conflicts, unless america has a vital interest.

obama campaigned on that same issue. back then, democrats agreed. now that trump is saying it, all the liberals are singing Josh Bolton’s tune. the opinions have no principle to them, if they only depend on who is saying it. whatever trump says, literally whatever he says, you say the opposite.
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Trump gave up our position in Syria and control of ISIS assets, that we were controlling with 1K troops on the ground and received nothing for the US in return. What threats were made to Trump's considerable personal financial interests in Turkey is unknown.

I don't disagree with you, in that Erdogans moving to the other sphere.
That is just one more reason why long term policies and career Pentagon and State Dept employees are important.
To be successful US policy needs to be close as possible to consistent from President to President.
This has been worked on for the past 75 years by administration after administration with great success.
Trump has flushed decades of work and many lives lost down the drain with his impulsive actions.
Trust comes on foot and leaves on horseback, it will be a long time, if ever, before we regain the trust of our allies to the degree we had.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gm3hH6_Nh0

what we received in return, is the comfort in knowing that those 1,000 superb americans, are safer. you say very explicitly, that’s “nothing”. many would disagree.

obama was a hero for finally getting us out of iraq. what did we get in return? did they pay us to leave?
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agreed. but in that particular area, no one has been able to get the quarreling nations to stop killing each other. how many americans do we sacrifice to attempt something that has been so elusive as peace in the middle east?

i’m not claiming to know the answer. i’m saying i feel
it’s a valid question, even if asked by the current president.
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