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Pete F. 12-16-2019 09:50 AM

Shhhhh, it's a secret
 
I'm going to let you in on a Trumplican secret.

They are desperate to ensure Bolton, Mulvaney, etc. don't testify.

But they know if the public realizes they are hiding the witnesses, the public will think he's guilty. So the spin is Floridaman claiming he wants everyone to testify, with the qualifier of whatever they want.........
And it's only mean McConnell that doesn't want a showy trial. That is bunk.Since when does McConnell force Floridaman to do anything?

But many in the media are falling for it. So let's get this clear: Mulvaney, Bolton, hell Rudy should all testify.

If they don't, it's an admission of guilt.

Putin's Puppet allied with the
Gang
Of
Putin

spence 12-16-2019 10:12 AM

...and wait until Lev Parnas blows up whatever is left.
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Jim in CT 12-16-2019 10:20 AM

i have something that isn’t a secret...your concern isn’t Trump, your concern should be the inability of a major party to find someone after a yearslong search, who can beat a morally bankrupt pig. Dems should focus their energies there, that would
be a tad more productive.
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spence 12-16-2019 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1182169)
i have something that isn’t a secret...your concern isn’t Trump, your concern should be the inability of a major party to find someone after a yearslong search, who can beat a morally bankrupt pig. Dems should focus their energies there, that would
be a tad more productive.
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Sunday, December 15
General Election: Trump vs. Biden FOX News Biden 48, Trump 41 Biden +7
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders FOX News Sanders 49, Trump 43 Sanders +6
General Election: Trump vs. Warren FOX News Warren 46, Trump 45 Warren +1
General Election: Trump vs. Buttigieg FOX News Buttigieg 43, Trump 42 Buttigieg +1
General Election: Trump vs. Bloomberg FOX News Bloomberg 45, Trump 40 Bloomberg +5

Pete F. 12-16-2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1182169)
i have something that isn’t a secret...your concern isn’t Trump, your concern should be the inability of a major party to find someone after a yearslong search, who can beat a morally bankrupt pig. Dems should focus their energies there, that would
be a tad more productive.
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At least you admit that you think Floridaman is a morally bankrupt pig whom you devoutly support without equal, at least on this forum.

A little review of primary history might tell a different tale than what Faux is telling you.

It's early yet, in both primaries and impeachment.

Sea Dangles 12-16-2019 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1182170)
Sunday, December 15
General Election: Trump vs. Biden FOX News Biden 48, Trump 41 Biden +7
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders FOX News Sanders 49, Trump 43 Sanders +6
General Election: Trump vs. Warren FOX News Warren 46, Trump 45 Warren +1
General Election: Trump vs. Buttigieg FOX News Buttigieg 43, Trump 42 Buttigieg +1
General Election: Trump vs. Bloomberg FOX News Bloomberg 45, Trump 40 Bloomberg +5

This must certainly translate to an easy victory for the Dems again.
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Pete F. 12-16-2019 10:49 AM

The president of the United States this morning: Shares tweet calling the FBI a “criminal organization.” Retweets a bunch of unsubstantiated stuff from Rudy Giuliani.

Jim in CT 12-16-2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1182170)
Sunday, December 15
General Election: Trump vs. Biden FOX News Biden 48, Trump 41 Biden +7
General Election: Trump vs. Sanders FOX News Sanders 49, Trump 43 Sanders +6
General Election: Trump vs. Warren FOX News Warren 46, Trump 45 Warren +1
General Election: Trump vs. Buttigieg FOX News Buttigieg 43, Trump 42 Buttigieg +1
General Election: Trump vs. Bloomberg FOX News Bloomberg 45, Trump 40 Bloomberg +5

then you have nothing to fear.
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Jim in CT 12-16-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182178)
The president of the United States this morning: Shares tweet calling the FBI a “criminal organization.” Retweets a bunch of unsubstantiated stuff from Rudy Giuliani.

very un- presidential, i agree.

the fbi has a lot to answer for. you left that part out.
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RIROCKHOUND 12-16-2019 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182166)
I'm going to let you in on a Trumplican secret.

They are desperate to ensure Bolton, Mulvaney, etc. don't testify.

But they know if the public realizes they are hiding the witnesses, the public will think he's guilty. So the spin is Floridaman claiming he wants everyone to testify, with the qualifier of whatever they want.........
And it's only mean McConnell that doesn't want a showy trial. That is bunk.Since when does McConnell force Floridaman to do anything?

But many in the media are falling for it. So let's get this clear: Mulvaney, Bolton, hell Rudy should all testify.

If they don't, it's an admission of guilt.

Putin's Puppet allied with the
Gang
Of
Putin

Because he has no defense, and they know he did something wrong. So the administration is trying their damnedest to limit anyone with direct, first-hand information that is damaging from testifying. Bring in Biden, bring in Hunter, bring in Rudy, Mick, Perry, Bolton etc. I want to hear from all of them under oath.

Sea Dangles 12-16-2019 11:18 AM

Since when is not testifying an admission of guilt?
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Jim in CT 12-16-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1182181)
Bring in Biden, bring in Hunter, bring in Rudy, Mick, Perry, Bolton etc. I want to hear from all of them under oath.

Agreed 100%.
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Pete F. 12-16-2019 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1182180)
very un- presidential, i agree.

the fbi has a lot to answer for. you left that part out.
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Our government has work to do on FISA in a number of branches, maybe we have to decide if we value security over privacy. Chris Wray, a Floridaman appointee is doing that right now in the FBI. And pay attention to Floridaman's BS about him. But screaming about the FBI is what the Trumplicans are hoping you do, push the conversation to the evils inflicted on Floridaman, rather than what he has done.

Michael Horowitz, demolished Floridaman’s most sensational allegations about the Russia inquiry: He concluded that the opening of the investigation was lawful and legitimate, that there was no improper “spying” on the Floridaman campaign and that the F.B.I. wasn’t part of some “deep state” conspiracy to overthrow the president. FISA has flaws that need fixing, but "deep state" claims are a dangerous distraction.

But you haven't read it and you won't, you'll just repeat Floridaman and the Trumplicans talking points.

And that gives them the tools to push baloney like this.

“I do think the big report to wait for is going to be the Durham report,” Floridaman said, once again speculating about a report that hasn’t been written. “That’s the one that people are really waiting for.”

Their ability to wreak political havoc with the latest Horowitz report is part of what has now become a clear pattern:Call for an investigation of a favorite Floridaman target; speculate about the likely outcome; seize on any collateral evidence that emerges; spin the results; then move quickly to the next investigation. Repeat. He's done it all his working life.

scottw 12-16-2019 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1182185)
Agreed 100%.
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nope...the house votes to impeach based on the pathetic evidence they rolled out...let the senate decide up or down on that pathetic evidence and the joke articles they send along...democrats can't even get all of the democrats to agree on their evidence....let them impeach in a partisan(with defections) effort and look look the dumbest and most childish politicians in American history....there will be plenty of indictments coming from Durham to enjoy

Jim in CT 12-16-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182186)
Our government has work to do on FISA in a number of branches, maybe we have to decide if we value security over privacy. Chris Wray, a Floridaman appointee is doing that right now in the FBI. And pay attention to Floridaman's BS about him. But screaming about the FBI is what the Trumplicans are hoping you do, push the conversation to the evils inflicted on Floridaman, rather than what he has done.

Michael Horowitz, demolished Floridaman’s most sensational allegations about the Russia inquiry: He concluded that the opening of the investigation was lawful and legitimate, that there was no improper “spying” on the Floridaman campaign and that the F.B.I. wasn’t part of some “deep state” conspiracy to overthrow the president. FISA has flaws that need fixing, but "deep state" claims are a dangerous distraction.

But you haven't read it and you won't, you'll just repeat Floridaman and the Trumplicans talking points.

And that gives them the tools to push baloney like this.

“I do think the big report to wait for is going to be the Durham report,” Floridaman said, once again speculating about a report that hasn’t been written. “That’s the one that people are really waiting for.”

Their ability to wreak political havoc with the latest Horowitz report is part of what has now become a clear pattern:Call for an investigation of a favorite Floridaman target; speculate about the likely outcome; seize on any collateral evidence that emerges; spin the results; then move quickly to the next investigation. Repeat. He's done it all his working life.

Horowitz concluded that the FBI made a large number of serious and fundamental mistakes. but that’s nothing. Because liberal =good, conservative = bad.

one more report to go, Durham’s. Long wait.

i’m not screaming about the fbi. i’m staying what horowitz said and wrote.

you’re ignoring that, because it’s what the dnc wants you to do.

look at our posting history. I go where the facts take me, you post nothing but partisan rhetoric. Never anything but.
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Pete F. 12-16-2019 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1182190)
Horowitz concluded that the FBI made a large number of serious and fundamental mistakes. but that’s nothing. Because liberal =good, conservative = bad.

one more report to go, Durham’s. Long wait.
Talk about an echo:“I do think the big report to wait for is going to be the Durham report,” Floridaman said, once again speculating about a report that hasn’t been written. “That’s the one that people are really waiting for.”


i’m not screaming about the fbi. i’m staying what horowitz said and wrote.

you’re ignoring that, because it’s what the dnc wants you to do.

look at our posting history. I go where the facts take me, you post nothing but partisan rhetoric. Never anything but.
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What you claim as facts are typically right wing media reports, that come from the Trumplican echo chamber.

Have you read the Mueller report?

Have you read the Horowitz report?

Where do your "facts" come from?

Isn't it odd that they always seem to be parsed from a report, rather than viewed as part of a whole?

It seems that the FBI and the media are together a criminal organization, in your view, Faux's and that of Floridaman.

You should read the Op-Ed by William Webster
Mr. Webster is a former federal judge and the former director of both the F.B.I. and the C.I.A.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/o...stigation.html

Keep in mind that after Sergei Lavrov visited the White House (again), Russian state tv ran a piece on the visit called "Puppet Master and ‘Agent’" that joked about offering Trump asylum in Russia if he loses the 2020 election.

Jim in CT 12-16-2019 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182192)
What you claim as facts are typically right wing media reports, that come from the Trumplican echo chamber.

Have you read the Mueller report?

Have you read the Horowitz report?

Where do your "facts" come from?

Isn't it odd that they always seem to be parsed from a report, rather than viewed as part of a whole?

It seems that the FBI and the media are together a criminal organization, in your view, Faux's and that of Floridaman.

You should read the Op-Ed by William Webster
Mr. Webster is a former federal judge and the former director of both the F.B.I. and the C.I.A.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/o...stigation.html

Keep in mind that after Sergei Lavrov visited the White House (again), Russian state tv ran a piece on the visit called "Puppet Master and ‘Agent’" that joked about offering Trump asylum in Russia if he loses the 2020 election.

durham’s probe is wider in scope, and criminal in nature. Just because trump says that, doesn’t make it false. And just because i say it, doesn’t make me a trumplican.

you’re saying that anyone who agrees with trump on anything, is a trumplican.

That’s not crazy, nope.

You keep reflexively disagreeing with everything he says. It’s doing wonders for you.
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Pete F. 12-16-2019 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1182193)
durham’s probe is wider in scope, and criminal in nature. Just because trump says that, doesn’t make it false. And just because i say it, doesn’t make me a trumplican.

you’re saying that anyone who agrees with trump on anything, is a trumplican.

That’s not crazy, nope.

You keep reflexively disagreeing with everything he says. It’s doing wonders for you.
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So you have read nothing outside the media reports and purport to cite facts.
Good luck with that.

And here's a definition for you, even shows how to use it in a sentence.

Trumplican

A Republican who strays from party values to pander to Trump.
That Republican senator used to be a fiscal conservative; he is now a Trumplican.

scottw 12-16-2019 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1182193)

That’s not crazy, nope.

You keep reflexively disagreeing with everything he says. It’s doing wonders for you.

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the most impressive thing about pete is that he somehow still manages to type out words while his arms are bound in a straightjacket

Pete F. 12-16-2019 03:57 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sldmTBhCiA

Jim in CT 12-16-2019 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182195)
So you have read nothing outside the media reports and purport to cite facts.
Good luck with that.

And here's a definition for you, even shows how to use it in a sentence.

Trumplican

A Republican who strays from party values to pander to Trump.
That Republican senator used to be a fiscal conservative; he is now a Trumplican.

i listened to what Horowitz himself said. Somehow you’re going to say that his testimony isn’t relevant, because it makes obama look bad.
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Jim in CT 12-16-2019 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1182196)
the most impressive thing about pete is that he somehow still manages to type out words while his arms are bound in a straightjacket

it’s something to see. If Trump says two plus two is four, he’d say “ the hell it is!”.
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spence 12-16-2019 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1182217)
it’s something to see. If Trump says two plus two is four, he’d say “ the hell it is!”.
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I think your math is a bit advanced for the POTUS.
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Sea Dangles 12-16-2019 08:06 PM

But the coin flip was rocking.👌🏻
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Got Stripers 12-16-2019 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1182181)
Because he has no defense, and they know he did something wrong. So the administration is trying their damnedest to limit anyone with direct, first-hand information that is damaging from testifying. Bring in Biden, bring in Hunter, bring in Rudy, Mick, Perry, Bolton etc. I want to hear from all of them under oath.

Won’t happen, it would only add more evidence to what was going on and further substantiation of the testimony they already have. The GOP is damned if they do and damned if they don’t. They know witness testimony will further the case for impeachment and if they don’t proceed then it’s an admission there is much to hide.
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scottw 12-16-2019 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1182222)
Won’t happen, it would only add more evidence to what was going on and further substantiation of the testimony they already have. The GOP is damned if they do and damned if they don’t. They know witness testimony will further the case for impeachment and if they don’t proceed then it’s an admission there is much to hide.
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This is quite delusional
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Got Stripers 12-16-2019 08:51 PM

I know how you feel Lindsey, no need to hide it🤣
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scottw 12-17-2019 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1182222)

Won’t happen, it would only add more evidence to what was going on and further substantiation of the testimony they already have.

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the most "compelling" testimony was from Sondland regarding what he claimed he told Zelensky's Aide which he needed to amend previous testimony to include..

and then....


THE HILL "A top aide to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is refuting U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland’s testimony in the impeachment inquiry against President Trump"



incredibly pathetic partisan impeachment effort by the dems...

when trump is re-elected with a republican majority house and senate you can whine about the unfairness and russians or something :rotf2:
.

Pete F. 12-17-2019 06:24 AM

"There’s more support for impeaching Trump now than there was at the equivalent stage in the Watergate scandal— right after articles of impeachment were approved by the House Judiciary Committee. Rather than face impeachment, Nixon resigned."
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scottw 12-17-2019 06:33 AM

not really trending in your direction

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...rump-6957.html

Sea Dangles 12-17-2019 07:01 AM

He is,always was, and will forever be clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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Got Stripers 12-17-2019 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1182232)
He is,always was, and will forever be clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
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Trump textbook playbook, if I say it over and over enough it must be true. I’m certain history will not included the third president to be impeached in their list of the greatest presidents of our lifetime.

What is absolutely insane is Rudy pulling a full Mulvaney and admitting he needed to force out the ambassador as she would make it difficult to investigate the Bidens. Just the fact Trump keeps him on as his personal attorney proves how stupid he is. The three of you are small men searching for a balcony and I don’t know who to attribute that line to, but it’s a perfect fit.
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Sea Dangles 12-17-2019 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1182234)
Trump textbook playbook, if I say it over and over enough it must be true. I’m certain history will not included the third president to be impeached in their list of the greatest presidents of our lifetime.

What is absolutely insane is Rudy pulling a full Mulvaney and admitting he needed to force out the ambassador as she would make it difficult to investigate the Bidens. Just the fact Trump keeps him on as his personal attorney proves how stupid he is. The three of you are small men searching for a balcony and I don’t know who to attribute that line to, but it’s a perfect fit.
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I sincerely appreciate you sharing your musings today.
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scottw 12-17-2019 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1182234)

I’m certain history will not included the third president to be impeached in their list of the greatest presidents of our lifetime.


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if you are being impeached by lunatic hacks like Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer, Nadler, Waters, Cicciline etc...you are most likely doing a great job for America

Got Stripers 12-17-2019 08:22 AM

Could have predicted your response, just another textbook Fox and Friends like response, ignore the facts, ignore the multiple requests for a foreign power to interfere in our elections, party first and country second.
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Sea Dangles 12-17-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1182237)
Could have predicted your response, just another textbook Fox and Friends like response, ignore the facts, ignore the multiple requests for a foreign power to interfere in our elections, party first and country second.
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Yet your opinions are independent thoughts and are entirely unpredictable.
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Got Stripers 12-17-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1182238)
Yet your opinions are independent thoughts and are entirely unpredictable.
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I’ve listened to the facts, listened to testimony all pointing to the same plot and then you have Trump, Mulvaney and now Rudy all admitting what the plot was; but you can keep your red hat tightly on your head, but cutting off the flow of blood might cause long term damage.
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Sea Dangles 12-17-2019 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1182239)
I’ve listened to the facts, listened to testimony all pointing to the same plot and then you have Trump, Mulvaney and now Rudy all admitting what the plot was; but you can keep your red hat tightly on your head, but cutting off the flow of blood might cause long term damage.
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I respect your conclusion, however I am not convinced. Let’s see how this plays out and hopefully the process will yield justice. The only red hat I own is a TB12 knit hat w Pom Pom. I hope that will not trigger a libby meltdown.
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The Dad Fisherman 12-17-2019 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1182243)
The only red hat I own is a TB12 knit hat w Pom Pom. I hope that will not trigger a libby meltdown.
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Well, he IS friends with Trump, sometimes that’s all it takes
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scottw 12-17-2019 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1182237)

Could have predicted your response, just another textbook Fox and Friends like response,

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paaaaaleeeeese...you haven't predicted anything correctly yet...and I've never watched Fox other than Fox Sports...I have no idea who Don Lemon is


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