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Pete F. 05-08-2020 03:30 PM

Thoughts and Prayers
 
President Trump said today that "Katie" is VP staffer who tested positive. Katie Miller is VP spokesperson and wife of WH adviser Stephen Miller.

Between Trump’s valet and Katie Miller, it’s safe to say that a significant portion of the West Wing has probably been exposed to coronavirus.

Many people think that Fauci and Birx may be conducting a herd immunity experiment.

Nebe 05-08-2020 06:08 PM

Thin the herd :hihi:
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Pete F. 05-08-2020 09:42 PM

COVID-19 is all over the White House.

1⃣ Trump*s Personal Valet
2⃣ Pence's Press Secretary
3⃣ Ivanka Trump's Personal Assistant
4⃣ 34 Secret Service Agents

The White House has the best safety precautions on Earth. So why does anyone think Trump* can keep US safe?
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Sea Dangles 05-09-2020 09:09 AM

Over 195,000 have recovered from corona virus perJohns Hopkins.
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Rmarsh 05-09-2020 09:28 AM

My 100 year old Mother-in Law tested positive for Covid-19 over a week ago....has no symptoms and has not been told....my wife asked her how she was feeling .....says she feels pretty good.

She is as tough and resilient as anyone I have ever known.
If I was a gambler...and i'm not.... my bet would be she survives this too.

spence 05-09-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rmarsh (Post 1193002)
My 100 year old Mother-in Law tested positive for Covid-19 over a week ago....has no symptoms and has not been told....my wife asked her how she was feeling .....says she feels pretty good.

She is as tough and resilient as anyone I have ever known.
If I was a gambler...and i'm not.... my bet would be she survives this too.

My mom did 5 stints in the ICU over 6 years before she died. Each time they said she was likely not coming home. Some people are just built to survive.
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Sea Dangles 05-09-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rmarsh (Post 1193002)
My 100 year old Mother-in Law tested positive for Covid-19 over a week ago....has no symptoms and has not been told....my wife asked her how she was feeling .....says she feels pretty good.

She is as tough and resilient as anyone I have ever known.
If I was a gambler...and i'm not.... my bet would be she survives this too.

Best of luck Bob
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Pete F. 05-09-2020 10:18 AM

I wonder what it's like to be a germaphobe like Trump*, sitting in the White House, knowing the virus has already breached whatever protective measures he put in place and could be lurking inside any one of the very few people he trusts.
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Sea Dangles 05-09-2020 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1193016)
I wonder what it's like to be a germaphobe like Trump*, sitting in the White House, knowing the virus has already breached whatever protective measures he put in place and could be lurking inside any one of the very few people he trusts.
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Keep wondering Bitchslappedboy.
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spence 05-09-2020 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1193016)
I wonder what it's like to be a germaphobe like Trump*, sitting in the White House, knowing the virus has already breached whatever protective measures he put in place and could be lurking inside any one of the very few people he trusts.
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I can only think that if Trump did get sick he’d still be on TV with no mask proclaiming he was fine and feeling the best he ever has...with a doctor’s note to prove it.
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Sea Dangles 05-09-2020 10:49 AM

That is leadership
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Rmarsh 05-09-2020 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1193005)
Best of luck Bob
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Thanks.....good news from my moms nursing home as well...no covid positive tests in the entire facilty as of yesterday

i was fooled by the title of the thread...

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Got Stripers 05-11-2020 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1193041)
That is leadership
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Right a true leader, actually he is a true joke. As the death toll is about to eclipse 80,000, does Trump tweet T&P’s for so many suffering, no he tweets he is happy to announce the opening of his Los Angeles golf course. Doing what he ran for, helping his brand and getting back into the reality TV game, he really is so apparent and pathetic.

Sea Dangles 05-11-2020 07:55 AM

Over 200,000 Americans have recovered from the corona virus per Johns Hopkins
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Jim in CT 05-11-2020 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1192953)
COVID-19 is all over the White House.

1⃣ Trump*s Personal Valet
2⃣ Pence's Press Secretary
3⃣ Ivanka Trump's Personal Assistant
4⃣ 34 Secret Service Agents

The White House has the best safety precautions on Earth. So why does anyone think Trump* can keep US safe?
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Does anyone think the president can keep us safe from a virus? If I go out in public without a mask, or if I work in a nursing home...is it the president's fault if I get sick?

Got Stripers 05-11-2020 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1193158)
Over 200,000 Americans have recovered from the corona virus per Johns Hopkins
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No sh*t #^&#^&#^&#^& Tracy, guess why that number is so high in the first place, but be comforted; our fearless leader loves big numbers and the infected and death numbers are more than many wars put together. He should be proud to go down in history as the only president who can be impeached, have the highest death toll, have the most unemployed and the worse economy in history as he leaves office.

Hugh infected numbers, unbelievable death numbers, which is why the number recovered is growing along with them, but hey thanks for pointing that out Captain Obvious.:claps::claps::claps:

Jim in CT 05-11-2020 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1193162)
No sh*t #^&#^&#^&#^& Tracy, guess why that number is so high in the first place, but be comforted; our fearless leader loves big numbers and the infected and death numbers are more than many wars put together. He should be proud to go down in history as the only president who can be impeached, have the highest death toll, have the most unemployed and the worse economy in history as he leaves office.

Hugh infected numbers, unbelievable death numbers, which is why the number recovered is growing along with them, but hey thanks for pointing that out Captain Obvious.:claps::claps::claps:

The unemployment is his fault?

The Dad Fisherman 05-11-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1193164)
The unemployment is his fault?

Everything is his fault.

I heard he's been tied to the spike in Teenage Pregnancies as well..
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Pete F. 05-11-2020 08:46 AM

COVID arrived in the US on January 13. Wednesday is May 13.

That’s four months. Four months to figure things out, to communicate a plan, & to get testing & tracing in place. Instead, it seems we’re just opening up because of politics. Trump* the leader completely failed this test.

No, it would not be perfect. Just like any war there would need to be adjustments to the plan and targets would change.
But far better than baloney, miracles and magic drug gaslighting.

Just the minimal effort to demonstrate CDC recommendations at his task force propaganda meetings and the WH would have made a significant difference in infections and spread.

Got Stripers 05-11-2020 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1193164)
The unemployment is his fault?

His administration he owns those big numbers, it doesn’t matter if he could have kept them down by earlier hard line intervention, the handling from the get go has resulted in bigger numbers.

What no comment on Trumps cold tweet selling golfers to get on over to his families golf course. The clown is only interested in brand name, what is good for him, surrounding himself with boot licking lackeys and showing anyone who has the nerve to stand up to him the revolving White House door.

Jim in CT 05-11-2020 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1193167)
COVID arrived in the US on January 13. Wednesday is May 13.

That’s four months. Four months to figure things out, to communicate a plan, & to get testing & tracing in place. Instead, it seems we’re just opening up because of politics. Trump* the leader completely failed this test.

No, it would not be perfect. Just like any war there would need to be adjustments to the plan and targets would change.
But far better than baloney, miracles and magic drug gaslighting.

Just the minimal effort to demonstrate CDC recommendations at his task force propaganda meetings and the WH would have made a significant difference in infections and spread.

You want to say our testing has been a flop, I agree.

But once it's "here", I'm not sure what the president can reasonably do, to stop it and keep unemployment from surging. I guess Obama would have gone out, barechested with bullets strapped across his chest and a cigar in his mouth, and beat the virus back singe-handedly.

Trump was wrong for trying to curtail it with a travel ban, That was unnecessary because the virus wasn't that serious. Now, it's awful and he didn't do enough.

That's a textbook case of trying to have it both ways.

Jim in CT 05-11-2020 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1193168)
His administration he owns those big numbers, it doesn’t matter if he could have kept them down by earlier hard line intervention, the handling from the get go has resulted in bigger numbers.

What no comment on Trumps cold tweet selling golfers to get on over to his families golf course. The clown is only interested in brand name, what is good for him, surrounding himself with boot licking lackeys and showing anyone who has the nerve to stand up to him the revolving White House door.

The numbers are nowhere near what we were told to expect. Does he own that too?

Does he own the nursing home deaths in NY state that are a direct result of Cuomo's idiotic policy that nursing homes can't refuse to admit people who are sick? That was Trump's fault, not Cuomo's?

You didn't give him credit for the economy, but you fault him for this. Again, a textbook case of wanting to have it both ways. Every positive result, someone else gets the credit. Everything bad, is his fault.

Sea Dangles 05-11-2020 09:18 AM

Now Trump has a new bee that he couldn’t keep out of the country also!
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PaulS 05-11-2020 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1193168)
His administration he owns those big numbers, it doesn’t matter if he could have kept them down by earlier hard line intervention, the handling from the get go has resulted in bigger numbers.

What no comment on Trumps cold tweet selling golfers to get on over to his families golf course. The clown is only interested in brand name, what is good for him, surrounding himself with boot licking lackeys and showing anyone who has the nerve to stand up to him the revolving White House door.

Trump recognizes that his administration owns the economy and won't get re-elected unless it gets going and recently has shifted from talking about the virus to trying to get the economy started even as states and businesses are looking for help on how to do so safely. He has left the states on their own.

It has been almost 2 weeks since Fauci and Birx have spoken at the briefings, He has refused requests from Congress to talk to key individuals.

He spent most of yesterday tweeting. I guess there was nothing else he needed to do.

Pete F. 05-11-2020 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1193169)
You want to say our testing has been a flop, I agree.

But once it's "here", I'm not sure what the president can reasonably do, to stop it and keep unemployment from surging. I guess Obama would have gone out, barechested with bullets strapped across his chest and a cigar in his mouth, and beat the virus back singe-handedly.

Trump was wrong for trying to curtail it with a travel ban, That was unnecessary because the virus wasn't that serious. Now, it's awful and he didn't do enough.

That's a textbook case of trying to have it both ways.

Show me where I ever said a travel ban was bad, it is simply typical Trump* gaslighting. I've always said what he did was misdirected effort, not enough and just typical Trump* baloney based on his "gut" or "points to head".
He has set himself and us up perfectly to fail by ignoring the experts, not pushing for the funding and not enabling the staff and mechanisms that were in place to excel.
The nation that produced 8 fighters an hour in WW2, couldn't produce tests, swabs or masks to meet the need.
Yes, it is this administrations fault.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Jan. 21 announced the first travel-related case of novel coronavirus in the United States. Trump* made his administration's restrictions effective Feb. 2. (On Jan. 17, the CDC had begun health screenings of passengers on direct or connecting flights from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak.)

Trump* barred non-U.S. citizens from traveling from China, but there were 11 exceptions, and Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan were not included. U.S. citizens and permanent residents could still travel from China but were subject to screening and possible 14-day quarantine. Some flights were immediately suspended, but others continued for weeks, at the discretion of the airlines.

“All of the evidence we have indicates that travel restrictions and quarantines directed at individual countries are unlikely to keep the virus out of our borders,” said Jennifer Nuzzo, from Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Health Security, at a congressional hearing Feb. 5. She was not alone in saying this.

Screening and testing did not function and social distancing that has never been taken seriously by the WH was too little too late, so we are now at 1.4 million infected and 80 thousand dead.

It's far from over.

Jim in CT 05-11-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1193175)
Show me where I ever said a travel ban was bad, it is simply typical Trump* gaslighting. I've always said what he did was misdirected effort, not enough and just typical Trump* baloney based on his "gut" or "points to head".
He has set himself and us up perfectly to fail by ignoring the experts, not pushing for the funding and not enabling the staff and mechanisms that were in place to excel.
The nation that produced 8 fighters an hour in WW2, couldn't produce tests, swabs or masks to meet the need.
Yes, it is this administrations fault.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Jan. 21 announced the first travel-related case of novel coronavirus in the United States. Trump* made his administration's restrictions effective Feb. 2. (On Jan. 17, the CDC had begun health screenings of passengers on direct or connecting flights from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak.)

Trump* barred non-U.S. citizens from traveling from China, but there were 11 exceptions, and Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan were not included. U.S. citizens and permanent residents could still travel from China but were subject to screening and possible 14-day quarantine. Some flights were immediately suspended, but others continued for weeks, at the discretion of the airlines.

“All of the evidence we have indicates that travel restrictions and quarantines directed at individual countries are unlikely to keep the virus out of our borders,” said Jennifer Nuzzo, from Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Health Security, at a congressional hearing Feb. 5. She was not alone in saying this.

Screening and testing did not function and social distancing that has never been taken seriously by the WH was too little too late, so we are now at 1.4 million infected and 80 thousand dead.

It's far from over.

I never said, that you claimed the travel ban was bad. I said the media, and many prominent democrats, said it was unnecessary because the virus wasn't that dangerous.

Now they are shifting the goalposts.

Because what matters isn't the truth, what matters is orangemanbad.

RIROCKHOUND 05-11-2020 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1192870)
President Trump said today that "Katie" is VP staffer who tested positive. Katie Miller is VP spokesperson and wife of WH adviser Stephen Miller.

Between Trump’s valet and Katie Miller, it’s safe to say that a significant portion of the West Wing has probably been exposed to coronavirus.

Many people think that Fauci and Birx may be conducting a herd immunity experiment.

Seen on Twitter:
Even though Katie Miller tested positive, husband Stephen Miller is immune because Covid does not cross species

Sea Dangles 05-11-2020 10:44 AM

Thanks for sharing👍🏽
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Pete F. 05-11-2020 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1193176)
I never said, that you claimed the travel ban was bad. I said the media, and many prominent democrats, said it was unnecessary because the virus wasn't that dangerous.

Now they are shifting the goalposts.

Because what matters isn't the truth, what matters is orangemanbad.

the media, and many prominent democrats, said it was unnecessary because the virus wasn't that dangerous.

I think your fingers are outrunning your brain again

Was that Hannity?
And what democrats?

Pete F. 05-11-2020 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1193176)
I never said, that you claimed the travel ban was bad. I said the media, and many prominent democrats, said it was unnecessary because the virus wasn't that dangerous.

Now they are shifting the goalposts.

Because what matters isn't the truth, what matters is orangemanbad.

the media, and many prominent democrats, said it was unnecessary because the virus wasn't that dangerous.

I think your fingers are outrunning your brain again

Was that Hannity?
And what democrats?

Cite some evidence or just admit the truth

Jim in CT 05-11-2020 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1193179)
the media, and many prominent democrats, said it was unnecessary because the virus wasn't that dangerous.

I think your fingers are outrunning your brain again

Was that Hannity?
And what democrats?

"Was that Hannity?"

I never watch Hannity. He's a clown. I could argue that you are exactly as clownish, you are just the mirror image. To Hannity, the republican is always right, no exceptions. To you, the republican is always wrong, no exceptions. Neither one of you is to be taken seriously.


"And what democrats?"

Not sure how you can be sufficiently ignorant to not be aware of this.

Here, Biden, Sanders, and media outlets are quoted...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...ina-travel-ban

Here's another itemized list...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fro...vent-aged-well

"I think your fingers are outrunning your brain again"

No, just outrunning your brain. Not a high bar.

Now you go ahead and tell me that Trump was the only one who got it wrong. Yet a Gallup poll shows that 60% of Americans approve of the way he's handling it.

Pete F. 05-11-2020 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1193181)
"Was that Hannity?"

I never watch Hannity. He's a clown. I could argue that you are exactly as clownish, you are just the mirror image. To Hannity, the republican is always right, no exceptions. To you, the republican is always wrong, no exceptions. Neither one of you is to be taken seriously.


"And what democrats?"

Not sure how you can be sufficiently ignorant to not be aware of this.

Here, Biden, Sanders, and media outlets are quoted...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...ina-travel-ban

Here's another itemized list...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fro...vent-aged-well

"I think your fingers are outrunning your brain again"

No, just outrunning your brain. Not a high bar.

Now you go ahead and tell me that Trump was the only one who got it wrong. Yet a Gallup poll shows that 60% of Americans approve of the way he's handling it.

As I expected you quote Faux news article that rely on partial quotes.
Here is Biden's OpEd from January 31, 2020.
Quite far from what you claim, the rest of the Faux quotes are similar.

Joe Biden: Trump is worst possible leader to deal with coronavirus outbreak
President has blithely tweeted that 'it will all work out well.' Yet the steps he has taken have only weakened our capacity to respond.
Joe Biden Opinion contributor January 31, 2020

The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president. I remember how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic. He called President Barack Obama a “dope” and “incompetent” and railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place — which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives — in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse. He advocated abandoning exposed and infected American citizens rather than bringing them home for treatment.

Trump’s demonstrated failures of judgment and his repeated rejection of science make him the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health challenge.

The outbreak of a new coronavirus, which has already infected more than 2,700 people and killed over 80 in China, will get worse before it gets better. Cases have been confirmed in a dozen countries, with at least five in the United States. There will likely be more.

Diseases don't stop at borders or walls
The State Department has scheduled an evacuation flight and advised Americans against traveling to Hubei province, the epicenter of the outbreak, and is evacuating non-essential personnel.

Trump has blithely tweeted that “it will all work out well.” Yet the steps he has taken as president have only weakened our capacity to respond.

Trump has rolled back much of the progress President Obama and I made to strengthen global health security. He proposed draconian cuts to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Agency for International Development — the very agencies we need to fight this outbreak and prevent future ones.

He dismissed the top White House official in charge of global health security and dismantled the entire team. And he has treated with utmost contempt institutions that facilitate international cooperation, thus undermining the global efforts that keep us safe from pandemics and biological attacks.

To be blunt, I am concerned that the Trump administration’s shortsighted policies have left us unprepared for a dangerous epidemic that will come sooner or later.

Pandemic diseases are a prime example of why international cooperation is a requirement of leadership in 2020. Diseases do not stop at borders. They cannot be thwarted by building a wall. We cannot keep ourselves safe without helping to keep others safe as well and without enlisting the help of other nations in return. And here’s the truth — the United States must step forward to lead these efforts, because no other nation has the resources, the reach or the relationships to marshal an effective international response.

That’s how we broke the infection curve on Ebola. In September 2014, CDC projections warned that over 1 million people could be infected if we failed to act. By February 2015, thanks to the leadership of our administration, the number of new Ebola cases was fewer than 400. A few months later, the epidemic was essentially extinguished.

I will uphold science, not fiction or fear
We brought the world together behind a response that only the United States could mobilize — including dispatching our military on a limited mission to help build the urgent infrastructure necessary to coordinate a massive global public health response, deploying American disaster assistance response teams to Africa, unleashing the NIH to help spur the discovery of new treatments and vaccines, protecting our citizens from potential cases of Ebola in the USA, and harnessing civilian expertise from the CDC at home and abroad.

We acted over the chorus of uninformed objections from critics like Donald Trump, and more than 60 countries followed our lead, contributing over $2 billion, thousands of health professionals and personnel, and other critical resources like personal protective equipment. Just as important, we strengthened our focus on preparing for the next crisis.

That’s the kind of leadership a moment like this demands — a leadership Trump could never deliver.

As president, I will reassert U.S. leadership in global health security. My policies will always uphold science, not fiction or fearmongering. I will ask Congress to beef up the Public Health Emergency Fund and give me the power to use the Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act to declare a disaster if an infectious disease threat merits it.

I will also renew funding — set to expire in May — for the nationwide network of hospitals that can isolate and treat people with infectious diseases, and fully fund the Global Health Security Agenda so the world is ready for the next outbreak. And I will rebuild public trust, make sure we have dedicated resources to help us respond to crises quickly, and better harness the capabilities of the private sector to protect the American people. Our national security requires nothing less.

scottw 05-11-2020 11:33 AM

obama is in BIG trouble....

Jim in CT 05-11-2020 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1193184)
As I expected you quote Faux news article that rely on partial quotes.
Here is Biden's OpEd from January 31, 2020.
Quite far from what you claim, the rest of the Faux quotes are similar.

Joe Biden: Trump is worst possible leader to deal with coronavirus outbreak
President has blithely tweeted that 'it will all work out well.' Yet the steps he has taken have only weakened our capacity to respond.
Joe Biden Opinion contributor January 31, 2020

The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president. I remember how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic. He called President Barack Obama a “dope” and “incompetent” and railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place — which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives — in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse. He advocated abandoning exposed and infected American citizens rather than bringing them home for treatment.

Trump’s demonstrated failures of judgment and his repeated rejection of science make him the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health challenge.

The outbreak of a new coronavirus, which has already infected more than 2,700 people and killed over 80 in China, will get worse before it gets better. Cases have been confirmed in a dozen countries, with at least five in the United States. There will likely be more.

Diseases don't stop at borders or walls
The State Department has scheduled an evacuation flight and advised Americans against traveling to Hubei province, the epicenter of the outbreak, and is evacuating non-essential personnel.

Trump has blithely tweeted that “it will all work out well.” Yet the steps he has taken as president have only weakened our capacity to respond.

Trump has rolled back much of the progress President Obama and I made to strengthen global health security. He proposed draconian cuts to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Agency for International Development — the very agencies we need to fight this outbreak and prevent future ones.

He dismissed the top White House official in charge of global health security and dismantled the entire team. And he has treated with utmost contempt institutions that facilitate international cooperation, thus undermining the global efforts that keep us safe from pandemics and biological attacks.

To be blunt, I am concerned that the Trump administration’s shortsighted policies have left us unprepared for a dangerous epidemic that will come sooner or later.

Pandemic diseases are a prime example of why international cooperation is a requirement of leadership in 2020. Diseases do not stop at borders. They cannot be thwarted by building a wall. We cannot keep ourselves safe without helping to keep others safe as well and without enlisting the help of other nations in return. And here’s the truth — the United States must step forward to lead these efforts, because no other nation has the resources, the reach or the relationships to marshal an effective international response.

That’s how we broke the infection curve on Ebola. In September 2014, CDC projections warned that over 1 million people could be infected if we failed to act. By February 2015, thanks to the leadership of our administration, the number of new Ebola cases was fewer than 400. A few months later, the epidemic was essentially extinguished.

I will uphold science, not fiction or fear
We brought the world together behind a response that only the United States could mobilize — including dispatching our military on a limited mission to help build the urgent infrastructure necessary to coordinate a massive global public health response, deploying American disaster assistance response teams to Africa, unleashing the NIH to help spur the discovery of new treatments and vaccines, protecting our citizens from potential cases of Ebola in the USA, and harnessing civilian expertise from the CDC at home and abroad.

We acted over the chorus of uninformed objections from critics like Donald Trump, and more than 60 countries followed our lead, contributing over $2 billion, thousands of health professionals and personnel, and other critical resources like personal protective equipment. Just as important, we strengthened our focus on preparing for the next crisis.

That’s the kind of leadership a moment like this demands — a leadership Trump could never deliver.

As president, I will reassert U.S. leadership in global health security. My policies will always uphold science, not fiction or fearmongering. I will ask Congress to beef up the Public Health Emergency Fund and give me the power to use the Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act to declare a disaster if an infectious disease threat merits it.

I will also renew funding — set to expire in May — for the nationwide network of hospitals that can isolate and treat people with infectious diseases, and fully fund the Global Health Security Agenda so the world is ready for the next outbreak. And I will rebuild public trust, make sure we have dedicated resources to help us respond to crises quickly, and better harness the capabilities of the private sector to protect the American people. Our national security requires nothing less.

I don't see what in that full Biden article, refutes his claim that the travel restrictions weren't necessary at the time.

And the links I posted, cited many democrat sources, not just Biden. Are they all made up?

Sea Dangles 05-11-2020 12:07 PM

Bitchslappedboy is an appropriate moniker.
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scottw 05-11-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1193193)
Bitchslappedboy is an appropriate moniker.
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clearly too many head slaps....

Pete F. 05-11-2020 12:17 PM

Partial quotes don't need to be made up, just taken out of context with a little twist of spin.

If you would like an little history of how Trump* thinks a pandemic should be dealt with look below and by the way, I wish he had been as concerned about Corona and then listened to the experts like Obama and Biden did with Ebola and H1N1.

I'll top it with my favorite Trump* tweet, he should take his own advice.

President Obama has a personal responsibility to visit & embrace all people in the US who contract Ebola! [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 13, 2014 10:17:34 PM

Obama: “I will control Ebola.” = Obama: “If you like your health care plan, you can keep your healthcare plan.” [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 10, 2014 01:43:00 PM

A single Ebola carrier infects 2 others at a minimum. STOP THE FLIGHTS! NO VISAS FROM EBOLA STRICKEN COUNTRIES! [Twitter Web Client]
Nov 10, 2014 09:18:50 AM
"@FuctChecker: We need less #isis and #ebola and #obama and more @realDonaldTrump" True! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 31, 2014 06:17:33 PM
"@habsfan80743103: @realDonaldTrump Canada to ban travel to Ebola hotspots http://t.co/Rkeju1ZKFc" [Twitter for Android]
Oct 29, 2014 02:55:36 PM
Obama will quarantine all soldiers returning from Africa for 21 days. But he still allows all who contract Ebola into country? Hypocrite. [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 29, 2014 02:01:58 PM
Via @Newsmax_Media by @JAGERFILE: “Donald Trump: 'Morally Unfair' to Use Soldiers in Ebola Fight” http://t.co/NlGdtDQdby [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 29, 2014 01:37:21 PM
Via @MailOnline @dmartosko "Donald Trump says it's morally unfair of Obama to send soldiers into Ebola hot zone" http://t.co/0QS4HB7pS6 [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 29, 2014 01:16:49 PM
My @FoxNews interview @seanhannity discussing Obama’s failed presidency, Ebola, DC Post Office, midterms & 2016 http://t.co/7h0CBtkocf [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 28, 2014 06:57:07 PM
President Obama strongly considering a plan to bring non-U.S. citizens with Ebola to the United States for treatment. Now I know he's nuts! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 28, 2014 12:40:46 PM
All the governors are already backing off of the Ebola quarantines. Bad decision that will lead to more mayhem. [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 27, 2014 05:24:36 AM
Will be on @foxandfriends at 7.00. (30 minutes). A great deal to talk about including Ebola quarantine. [Twitter for Android]
Oct 26, 2014 08:25:46 PM
"@RiannaRichards: This is why I agree with Donald Trump: They should ban flights from #Ebola infected countries from entering the U.S." [Twitter for Android]
Oct 26, 2014 06:20:32 AM
With all that is happening with Ebola, including the doctor who so easily came back to New York, Obama still refuses to stop the flights! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 24, 2014 03:17:51 PM
There is ZERO margin for error on Ebola. Are we confident in Obama when he can’t even make a website for $5 Billion? [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 24, 2014 08:09:26 AM
The Ebola doctor who just flew to N.Y. from West Africa and went on the subway, bowling and dining is a very SELFISH man-should have known! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 23, 2014 10:54:09 PM
President Obama has a major meeting on the N.Y.C. Ebola outbreak, with people flying in from all over the country, but decided to play golf! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 23, 2014 09:24:55 PM
Ebola has been confirmed in N.Y.C., with officials frantically trying to find all of the people and things he had contact with.Obama's fault [Twitter for Android]
Oct 23, 2014 06:38:59 PM
If this doctor, who so recklessly flew into New York from West Africa,has Ebola,then Obama should apologize to the American people & resign! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 23, 2014 06:24:32 PM
There is a good possibility that a person who treated patients in West Africa and who FLEW into New York has Ebola. Touched many, bedlam! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 23, 2014 04:31:09 AM
Tremendous pressure on President Obama to institute a travel ban on Ebola stricken West Africa. At some point this stubborn dope will fold! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 22, 2014 02:15:02 PM
If there is one more Ebola case in the U.S., a full travel ban will be instituted. This common sense move should have been done long ago! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 21, 2014 06:47:29 PM
The United States troops which were sent to West Africa have only gotten 4 hours of Ebola training - very unfair to them and their families! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 21, 2014 02:24:12 PM
Don’t believe Kay Hagan on Ebola travel ban. She also promised that you would keep your healthcare plan under ObamaCare. Vote @ThomTillis! [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 21, 2014 02:14:24 PM
Obama will let Ebola fly into US & drugrunners cross our border daily. But he won't pressure Mexico on Sgt. Tahmooressi. #FreeOurMarine [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 20, 2014 05:12:15 AM
I will be on @foxandfriends at 7.00 - 45 minutes. Talking about Ebola, Obama and other strange U.S. happenings! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 19, 2014 05:30:14 AM
The lobbyist and political hack that President Obama just appointed as the "Ebola Czar," just missed his first major meeting on Ebola-A joke [Twitter for Android]
Oct 19, 2014 05:09:46 AM
"@johnnydollar01: And people zinged Donald Trump for talking about Ebola. How is this Klain guy any more qualified?"Actually, less qualified [Twitter for Android]
Oct 17, 2014 06:54:35 PM
@DailyCaller by @AlexPappas: “Donald Trump, Headed To Iowa, Says Ebola Is Further Proof Of Obama's Incompetence” http://t.co/syk1ZiGn8y" [Twitter for Android]
Oct 17, 2014 05:20:00 PM
Obama just appointed an Ebola Czar with zero experience in the medical area and zero experience in infectious disease control. A TOTAL JOKE! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 17, 2014 03:17:20 PM
Via @DailyCaller by @AlexPappas: “Donald Trump, Headed To Iowa, Says Ebola Is Further Proof Of Obama's Incompetence” http://t.co/syk1ZiGn8y [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 17, 2014 02:32:02 PM
The new Ebola czar will report to the WH & NSA adviser Susan Rice. More mismanagement & duplicity with CDC. Obama is terrible executive. [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 16, 2014 11:10:47 PM
"@Bugsyfire: Mr.T You were the first to call it right weeks ago regarding the Ebola virus. Not enough restrictions to get into the U.S." [Twitter for Android]
Oct 16, 2014 03:07:08 PM
My @SteveDeaceShow interview discussing Ebola, Obama’s incompetence & my trip to Iowa for @SteveKingIA on Sat. http://t.co/PWRusADvr3 [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 16, 2014 07:11:37 AM
The Ebola nurse should NEVER have been allowed to fly to Cleveland and (amazing) back again. Nothing works in our once great country anymore [Twitter for Android]
Oct 15, 2014 05:36:44 PM
A nurse in Dallas who treated Ebola patient Thomas Duncan was allowed to fly to Cleveland.She should never have been so allowed! The real JV [Twitter for Android]
Oct 15, 2014 02:01:45 PM
Our president could not make a proper website with $5B. The website still does not work. How can we feel safe about Ebola?! [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 15, 2014 09:32:04 AM
As ISIS and Ebola spread like wildfire, the Obama administration just submitted a paper on how to stop climate change (aka global warming). [Twitter for Android]
Oct 13, 2014 05:53:45 AM
"@Michele_1L_: @realDonaldTrump @foxandfriends well anyway....Give em hell on the flight ban to Ebola regions." [Twitter for Android]
Oct 12, 2014 08:24:02 PM
I will be on Fox & Friends tomorrow morning at 7.00. Ebola and ISIS will be topics. [Twitter for Android]
Oct 12, 2014 08:12:45 PM
"@trucksellr2007: 150 travelers arriving daily in the U.S. from the Ebola hot zones of west Africa? This is insanity! #StopTheFlights [Twitter for Android]
Oct 12, 2014 08:17:03 AM
I don't know if President Obama isn't stopping the flights from Ebola torn West Africa because he is stubborn, stupid, or just doesn't care! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 12, 2014 08:11:04 AM
Here we go - A healthcare worker who treated Thomas Duncan, the man who flew into the U.S. from West Africa infected with Ebola, caught it! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 11, 2014 05:15:09 AM
Isn't it ridiculous, starting today, new Ebola screenings go into effect for people coming from West Africa. Just stop the flights dummies! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 10, 2014 11:25:43 PM
Do you notice that because of Ebola, ISIS etc., ObamaCare has gone to the back burner despite horrible results coming out. A disaster! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 10, 2014 03:54:59 PM
Via @theinquisitr: “Americans Agree With Donald Trump, 58 Percent Want Flights Banned From Ebola Outbreak Countries” http://t.co/GHnml8M69i [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 10, 2014 08:11:10 AM
Obama is making the Ebola problem much worse than it needs to be in the U.S. by not halting flights from West Africa. Airport testing a joke [Twitter for Android]
Oct 10, 2014 04:09:28 AM
"@BreitbartNews: Donald Trump, Chuck Todd Agree: No Trust of Feds' Handling Ebola Because of Obama Admin Scandals: http://t.co/YSpj0GpfBK" [Twitter for Android]
Oct 10, 2014 04:08:51 AM
"@BreitbartNews: Donald Trump: Obama 'Stupid' or 'Arrogant' for Not Instituting Ebola Travel Ban: On Sunday http://t.co/GHZHMDtnqM" [Twitter for Android]
Oct 10, 2014 04:00:40 AM
"@TPM: Donald Trump tells Fox why he doesn't trust Obama on Ebola: Benghazi! http://t.co/kgn4fVLVpB" [Twitter for Android]
Oct 10, 2014 03:44:33 AM
I feel sorry for the 4000 soldiers who are being forced to go the West Africa to fight Ebola. Their families are up in arms. Not trained. [Twitter for Android]
Oct 9, 2014 07:49:16 PM
China is ripping wealth out Africa and yet, as usual, refuses to put anything back to help with Ebola. "Let the stupid Americans do it!" SAD [Twitter for Android]
Oct 9, 2014 04:05:39 PM
The CDC chief just said Ebola is spreading faster than Aids. Marines are preparing for a pandemic drill. Stop all flights from West Africa! [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 9, 2014 03:49:36 PM
Obama won’t send troops to fight jihadists, yet sends them to Liberia to contract Ebola. He is a delusional failure. [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 9, 2014 03:26:32 PM
Via @Mediaite by forza_desiderio: “Donald Trump Blasts Obama on Ebola: Why Are You Sending Troops?” http://t.co/sKBRhOGBvp [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 9, 2014 10:45:42 AM
#TrumpVlog Will our brave soldiers catch Ebola? http://t.co/ZGBaetHnNt [Instagram]
Oct 9, 2014 08:17:04 AM
Right now 4000 U.S. troops are stupidly heading to West Africa to help fight Ebola.No help from China, Russia or wealthy African oil nations [Twitter for Android]
Oct 8, 2014 10:48:35 PM
"@otcgiant: @realDonaldTrump Our Country's "leaders" should have listened to you. Thanks to them, Ebola is now a household name in America." [Twitter for Android]
Oct 8, 2014 09:14:28 PM
"@HMunjal: "DonaldTrump: Via @AmSpec BY Jeffrey Lord: “Donald Trump was right on Ebola” http://t.co/2rS9VRS6MX" The Donald is always right!" [Twitter for Android]
Oct 8, 2014 02:52:21 PM
Via @AmSpec BY Jeffrey Lord: “Donald Trump was right on Ebola” http://t.co/2rS9VRS6MX [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 7, 2014 03:19:15 PM
My @gretawire int. on Leon Panetta's critique of Obama, Ebola, rise of ISIS, Obama's lack of common sense & 2016 http://t.co/uD5J1tXmFt [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 7, 2014 05:08:22 AM
Despite the ever increasing Ebola disaster, Obama refuses to stop flights from West Africa.It's almost like he's saying F-you to U.S. public [Twitter for Android]
Oct 6, 2014 11:16:55 AM
Via @DailyCaller by @NeilMunroDC: “Trump Wants Ebola Travel Ban” http://t.co/04thxvEv6y [Twitter Web Client]
Oct 6, 2014 05:17:32 AM
President Obama, I have an idea! Pretend that West Africa is Israel and then you will be able to stop the Ebola area flights. [Twitter for Android]
Oct 4, 2014 07:05:59 PM
President Obama - close down the flights from Ebola infected areas right now, before it is too late! What the hell is wrong with you? [Twitter for Android]
Oct 4, 2014 12:14:49 PM
Something very important, and indeed society changing, may come out of the Ebola epidemic that will be a very good thing: NO SHAKING HANDS! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 4, 2014 10:35:31 AM
This Ebola patient Thomas Duncan, who fraudulently entered the U.S. by signing false papers, is causing havoc. If he lives, prosecute! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 4, 2014 10:24:59 AM
If Ebola is so non-contagious, how come an NBC cameraman caught it so quickly while over in West Africa? U.S. is behaving very foolishly! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 2, 2014 06:08:15 PM
Ebola patient Duncan lied on his exit papers by saying he never came into contact with a person with Ebola. He knew he did, and person died. [Twitter for Android]
Oct 2, 2014 05:43:25 PM
How incompetent are our leaders allowing these Ebola infected people to come into our country with all of the problems and danger entailed! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 2, 2014 05:38:04 PM
The Ebola patient who came into our country knew exactly what he was doing. Came into contact with over 100 people.Here we go-I told you so! [Twitter for Android]
Oct 2, 2014 04:52:50 AM
Ebola is much easier to transmit than the CDC and government representatives are admitting. Spreading all over Africa-and fast. Stop flights [Twitter for Android]
Oct 1, 2014 01:55:55 AM
"@THEINTENSITY: The worst part is the apathy the administration has for informing the public of timely info about Ebola @realDonaldTrump" [Twitter for Android]
Sep 30, 2014 07:36:01 PM
The United States must immediately institute strong travel restrictions or Ebola will be all over the United States-a plague like no other! [Twitter for Android]
Sep 30, 2014 07:21:11 PM
How dumb is our president to send thousands of poorly trained and ill-equipped soldiers over to West Africa to fight Ebola. Stop all flights [Twitter for Android]
Sep 30, 2014 07:09:29 PM
Here we go! I stated long ago that we should cancel all flights from West Africa. Now we have Ebola in U.S., AND IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE! [Twitter for Android]
Sep 19, 2014 08:44:26 PM
Why are we sending thousands of ill-trained soldiers into Ebola infested areas of Africa! Bring the plague back to U.S.? Obama is so stupid. [Twitter for Android]
Sep 16, 2014 05:25:09 PM
In order to stop the Ebola outbreak in Africa, perhaps the President should put all Africans on ObamaCare rather than sending the troops! [Twitter for Android]
Sep 16, 2014 11:04:47 AM
We must immediately stop all air traffic coming from the Ebola infected areas of Africa—before it is too late. [Twitter Web Client]
Sep 16, 2014 07:49:28 AM
Can you believe that the U.S. will be sending 3000 troops to Africa to help with Ebola.They will come home infected? We have enough problems [Twitter for Android]
Sep 11, 2014 03:46:45 AM
"@Kalozap: Obama's mind, IsIs, ebola, etc.... and then thinking, boy I wish I was on the golf coarse. What should I wear on the Links" [Twitter for Android]
Aug 8, 2014 01:58:22 PM
Same CDC which is bringing Ebola to US misplaced samples of anthrax earlier this year http://t.co/aX7ihXdcMz Be careful. [Twitter Web Client]
Aug 8, 2014 01:56:44 PM
"Ebola's spread is 'unprecedented' says CDC chief" http://t.co/2wE9qVjD17 [Twitter Web Client]
Aug 5, 2014 07:56:25 AM
Doctors have already died treating Ebola http://t.co/L9DLh09oib We should not be importing the disease to our homeland. [Twitter Web Client]
Aug 5, 2014 06:17:50 AM
So many people are agreeing with me on not creating a "highway" for Ebola to the U.S. Started in small area of Africa and now spreading fast [Twitter for Android]
Aug 5, 2014 06:12:40 AM
"@JayGershbein: I agree! MT Doctor on @NBCNightlyNews agreed we should not bring #Ebola into country in two patients, bring docs to them." [Twitter for Android]
Aug 5, 2014 06:08:25 AM
"@Sprkle: Your opinions on #Ebola were outstanding and intelligent. If only we could channel some of this common sense to the WH.." [Twitter for Android]
Aug 4, 2014 06:53:32 PM
"@LeAnneLovesArt: @realDonaldTrump New York City hospital testing patient for possible Ebola infection... http://t.co/IxiP7foNjm" Hello! [Twitter for Android]
Aug 4, 2014 06:51:51 PM
The bigger problem with Ebola is all of the people coming into the U.S. from West Africa who may be infected with the disease. STOP FLIGHTS! [Twitter for Android]
Aug 4, 2014 06:48:29 PM
A doctor on NBC Nightly News agreed with me-we should not bring Ebola into our country through two patients, but should bring docs to them. [Twitter for Android]
Aug 2, 2014 10:43:41 PM
"@TrickyMackey: @Tidmore He seems to be doing the right thing. He's taking a stand for America and asking 4 some common sense about Ebola." [Twitter for Android]
Aug 2, 2014 05:55:18 PM
The fact that we are taking the Ebola patients, while others from the area are fleeing to the United States, is absolutely CRAZY-Stupid pols [Twitter for Android]
Aug 2, 2014 06:26:12 AM
The U.S. must immediately stop all flights from EBOLA infected countries or the plague will start and spread inside our "borders." Act fast! [Twitter for Android]
Aug 1, 2014 10:43:13 PM
"@BarbaraSMayer: @realDonaldTrump You are right about the Ebola patients. It's a deadly virus, and they shouldn't bring them to the US." [Twitter for Android]
Aug 1, 2014 08:22:26 PM
The U.S. cannot allow EBOLA infected people back. People that go to far away places to help out are great-but must suffer the consequences! [Twitter for Android]
Aug 1, 2014 07:22:19 AM
Stop the EBOLA patients from entering the U.S. Treat them, at the highest level, over there. THE UNITED STATES HAS ENOUGH PROBLEMS! [Twitter for Android]
Jul 31, 2014 09:04:13 PM
Ebola patient will be brought to the U.S. in a few days - now I know for sure that our leaders are incompetent. KEEP THEM OUT OF HERE! [Twitter for Android]

scottw 05-11-2020 12:18 PM

guess he needs to make up for his day off :rotf2:

Sea Dangles 05-11-2020 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1193199)
guess he needs to make up for his day off :rotf2:

Even though I would never bother to read more than a sentence of his efforts , I feel it important to thank him for sharing his hard work.
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