Justice Department Charges 4
 

The Justice Department is charging four men with destruction of federal property over an attempt to topple a statue of Andrew Jackson in Washington, D.C.

still waiting on all the ANTIFA arrest... ???

The charges were filed the same day that President Trump signed an executive order promising a crackdown

Trump followed up his executive action by tweeting out wanted posters of people that U.S. Park Police say are responsible for damage to the park near the White House.


to funny

You must have missed the tweet right bf that where he expressed sympathy for the 120K+ dead and asked people to wear masks.

The Taliban collects Russian bounties on dead US soldiers and Tweety does nothing.

But damage a statue and he’ll chase you to the ends of the Earth.

So do you say that all of the videos that show anarchists dressed in black are NOT Antifa? That Antifa does not extist? That there are no Militant Leftists?

There are Militant Rightists
There are Militant Leftists

Both sides, Wayne.

Never said there wasn't ..

Just curious where all these antifa Terrorists arrests are ? Seeing Trumps and his supporters swearing up and down that they were trying to topple the government..

But can find 4 people who tried to or did vandalize a statue .. quickly

Throw the book at them.. trump says

But roger stone flynn and other trump "friends" are treated unfairly says Trump... its an astonishing to watch
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If you are destroying property, public or private, I don't care what your ideology is.


The Antifa types do not have a secret decoder ring, no wait they do with encrypted comms, and loosely agitate an ideology along Some think they are "Bashing Fash" and sometimes those "Fash" are normal people, not Nazis.

Last year a guy in Tacoma (Willem Van Spronsen) first protested an ICE facility, was arrested, released and went back to the facility with a Rifle and stuff to start fires. He started fires in cars. He was shot by LEOs. He had decades of "Anti Fascist" writings and manifestos. People that knew him said he was self proclained Antifa. He was also a member of a local John Brown Gun Club ans Ocuopy Wall Street.

Wayne, you work in corrections. Is it a state facility? Or a place like Wyatt? Do you want guys like Van Spronsen shooting up your workplace?

So now you want proof that these people and groups are in existence. I HIGHLY recommend you lookup the Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club. Looked them up on Facebook and read the comments where memorialize Van Spronsen.

Members of this PS John Brown Club were reportedly "Providing Security" in the CHAZ / CHOP.

When does the the next Van Spronsen become the next McVeigh?


Three people were arrested in Texas for looting a Target. Not exactly career hardened criminals but the FBI stated they were Antifa.

How about the Cleveland Occupy Anarchists that were FBI Stinged wanting to blow up a bridge. This was almost a decade ago.





As i stated in my other posts, they are out there, exist, and mostly try to stirr crap up.

You're always going to have a few crazies, the Kazinski or McVeigh types. But we're talking about more mainstream threats here and in this case it's not even close to being equal.

They killed far fewer than Police Officer D’Angelo, how would he be classified among the wackos
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Sure, give cover to one side. Right wing extremism has been under scrutiny for a decade, about time left wing extremism removes it's protected class status.




What TF does this have to do with the price of Hacking Apps in China?

Extremists, criminals and Wackos exist in almost every group.
That’s the price of being in the human race.
No government that claims to be of the people, for the people and by the people will be able to remove some of it’s members for failure to think like the rest of the group, only for actions that the group finds unacceptable.
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WDMSO, who works in law enforcement, is agitated that the Justice Department is enforcing the law. I mean, how dare they?

I have to admire the way liberals played this. Liberals created modern day plantations in our cities. Liberals incentivize fatherlessness, joblessness, and oppose school choice. They do so, because this guarantees a large number of desperately poor people in the cities, 95% of whom vote democrat. That poverty also results in acting out, violence, and incarceration. Again, stupid liberal policies created this, but liberals, sensing the opportunity in Detroit, blame white cops for everything that's taking place in our cities. So the police, which might well be the only urban institution in the country that works well, are being attacked without mercy. The ones leading the attack, the ones working the mob into a frothing fit, are the ones who actually created this.

Amazing that they pulled it off so well. There always has to be a boogeyman for liberals to blame.

How can liberals say black lives matter, when they vehemently oppose school choice?

Black lives don't matter. "Certain" black lives matter. The ones that help democrats win elections. All the evidence you need of this, is to look at how liberals treat blacks who dare to be conservative. The liberal candidate for POTUS, says "you ain't black" unless you vote for him. How is that consistent with the notion that black lives matter? Spence, Paul, WDMSO? Care to explain?

Meanwhile a couple of black kids get murdered in Chicago on a daily basis. Number of protests over this tragedy? Zero. Because talking about gang violence and cracking down on it might save black lives, but it doesn't help democrats win elections. And obviously, that's all this is.

Tread carefully here, Jim.

ASK a question, sure, but don't bring into detail, please.

Speaking of ANtifa / Black Bloc, Militant end of BLM protests.

A couple hours ago in Provo Utah.

Long video: At least two incidents of firearms drawn BY "protestors". First at the white Ford before it takes of (with great restraint not to kill anyone) and last seconds of the video look to be the guy in the green shirt pointing a handgun. Several rounds are heard hard to say from where.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QASZKYfqR0I


And a zoomed in of same video.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A200fl2gBc

If crime and all societal failures are the fault of liberal politics why then are, Indianapolis, Oklahoma City, Mesa, Virginia Beach, Colorado Springs, Miami, and Anaheim within the cities with murder rates in the top 30?

I didn't think it was Antifa at first but on the zoomed in video you can clearly see his ID badge clipped to his lapel.

as usual Jim you dont get it ... we can find 4 people quickly for defacing a monument .. but we still cant find all your and Trumps Antifa terrorist you insisted existed in large numbers with a leadership network of command and control ..


keep beating your about drum about police violence and black on black crime are the same .... :kewl: both need to be addressed that's never been disputed.. tens of thousand of people protesting across the world over police violence must all be liberals

leaders who ignore the will of the people.. do so at their own peril... History has made that very clear

there’s no antifa registration, no one said there is.

let’s start very slowly. do you concede that antifa exists? or do you deny it exists?

you’re right, i keep beating my drum over silly, little things like the holocaust being perpetrated against blacks in our cities. but the people who refuse to talk about it, the people who refuse to let black parents choose better schools, they’re the ones who care about black lives. gotcha.
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yet these 2 are being praised by Trump and his supporters brandishing weapons and pointing them at protesters in their bare feet no less LOL

Keep deflecting, that will surely help the day they come for you ; )


The former instance someone had a firearm out in public and discharged in public .

The latter, BLM supporters by the way, we can have the courts and police (before they are defunded) determine if the actions were justified on Private Property (not that these anarchists recognize that) based on the series of events .

Yeh - they are equivalent (sarc)

those two had their property vandalized, and had threats made against them by the mob. But you don't like the idea of citizens (at least wealthy white ones?) engaging in the right to self defense?

Let's get back to the other issue...do democrats have a vested interested in keeping large numbers of poor people in the cities (all of whom vote democrat), yes or no? If you think the answer is no, can you please tell me why all the democrats at the state of the union sat there miserable, while the republicans celebrated that black unemployment was at its lowest level ever recorded? What does it say to you, that this outcome made the democrats so miserable? And why oppose school choice?

I didn’t see any video of anyone on their property or even threatening them. Sure it’s a private road but give me a break, they are lucky as hell they didn’t shoot anyone with their temper tantrum. As things stand they could still be charged.
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A private road is not a gated community
The mob broke in thru a gate
They threatened the homeowner within days of looted burned down businesses in the area where a former police chief was killed and you and you ilk mock there courage to defend themselves. They are lucky the mob did not make good on there threats to burn their house down and kill their dog or worse. If 300 people did that where you lived and you had a firearm available, you might have done the same and chased that mob off. The power struggle in this country has gotten way out of hand and the media is as much to blame as the gutless elected officials and progressive socialist pukes as yourself
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Just remember if it wasn’t for tweety they wouldn’t be coming for you, would they?
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He would beg for forgiveness for the last couple of centuries and perhaps offer his wife as compensation.
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Things used to be so peaceful
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There’s video of protestors just walking through the open gate, it doesn’t even appear to have been locked. I’m not aware of the homeowners receiving any threats prior either. They didn’t even call the police.
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You should hide under your bed with your gun. The majority of your posts show how afraid you are.

Wait until Kevin sees the personal insults. He hates those.

Edit - I forgot you are a Moderator - another hypocrite.

they are claiming their hate was broken and threats were made. IF that’s true, they are obviously justified, though they should have stayed inside.

every report mentions their whiteness. there is zero reason to conclude as of now, to conclude that played any role. but it’s all your side cares about in an election year.

how about we wait for the truth to come out before liberals
post their address all over the internet?
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liberals have been inciting race riots since
long before trump
took office. ever heard of ferguson?

when you have to lie to defend your beliefs, what does that say about your beliefs?
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i’ve seen multiple
reports that hey called the police. maybe check where you get your information from?
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If an inexperienced person is going to point a loaded firearm at another human being with their finger on the trigger you'd better have a good excuse. People banging a drum on your sidewalk isn't good enough. They should have stayed inside the protesters would have walked right by.

The only mention of their whiteness I've read came from their attorney who called them "My clients, as melanin-deficient human beings."

No, I didn't make that up.

I've read both, also that the protesters called the police on them.

The McCloskeys said they were “in fear for our lives” and that’s why they pulled the guns out.

“It was like the storming of the Bastille, the gate came down and a large crowd of angry, aggressive people poured through,” Mark McCloskey said. “I was terrified that we’d be murdered within seconds. Our house would be burned down, our pets would be killed.”

Mark said they called 911 and grabbed their guns as they heard the crowd approaching their private, gated community on Portland Place. However, police told News for they received no 911 calls from that street during the time of the incident.

Now watch the video, it doesn't match the timeline and look at the gate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt15soJxCsU

You know it's really lucky Mark McCloskey is a 63-year-old White man with a real AR-15, as opposed to a 12-year-old Black child playing with a toy gun in a park, otherwise the police may have shot him dead.

I have a right to my perception as do you


I suggest thicker skin

So apparently is spence is not aware, then it did not happen

ok

Maybe they called police directly, not 911

It's about time people stand up for what is right and defend against those who threaten others.

Those 2 are not being charged but give the liberals enough time and they will think up some reason down the road. I don't understand how anyone can defend a mob like that.

Are you referring to the one in the mob loading a magazine in his Glock and racking the slide?

The homeowners were getting out front on the trouble to be pre-emptive of any violence against them, they were alone with no help. I say that is good enough given the circumstances. Yes their choice to go outside may not have been the best, but it was also not wrong.

"If an inexperienced person is going to point a loaded firearm at another human being with their finger on the trigger you'd better have a good excuse'

Agreed. Trespassers threatening to kill him and his dog and threatening to burn his house, in the immediate wake of what took place there, would qualify, wouldn't it?. A police captain was murdered not long before.

The couple say that's what happened. Even Chris Cuomo, that right wing nut, conceded when interviewing the husband, that the mob broke into where they don't belong.

Let's let the process play out before we make them out to be horrible people. Tell me why that's wrong.

"The only mention of their whiteness "

You're a liar. I saw multiple reports on CNN and MSNBC that made a big deal of their skin color.

Yes you did. Here are links to stories that make an issue of their whiteness. You are so beyond full-of-sh*t when your side is in the wrong, aren't you? Do you actually urinate down your leg when your side is wrong, and you know it, because you know you can't admit it, Spence?

Pete says there were no race riots before Trump started tweeting, Paul tattling again, and you denying that the liberal media is making an issue of their skin color.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...st/3284186001/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-c...lt-threatened/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/29/u...rotesters.html

https://www.politifact.com/article/2...o-pointed-gun/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...couple-who-pu/

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/unit...icia-mccloskey

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/gu...ectors-1891419

https://www.insider.com/prosecutor-i...testers-2020-6

https://www.salon.com/2020/06/29/tru...rs-with-ar-15/

Well, he certainly is bringing us all together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmFXlt1AFHA