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Got Stripers 07-01-2020 10:21 AM

Putin’s puppet
 
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If the intel is right and Trump wasn’t briefed or someone didn’t make damn sure he understood the gravity of the intel, then we have a serious problem. If the intel is right and Trump was briefed and clearly understood the gravity of the intel and did nothing, we have a serious problem. Either way if true Russia needs to be held accountable and part of that surely is not bringing them back into the G7.

Pete F. 07-01-2020 11:08 AM

The White House says the president has been briefed on the alleged Russian bounties to kill U.S. soldiers. And, they are planning to brief the Gang of Eight on the issue today. But, Tweety is calling it all a hoax.

Yeah, it’s odd the WHOLE world is conspiring against 45 with all these hoaxes and even pretending to get sick and dying just to wreck his chances of re-election. The Deep World.


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The Russia Bounty story is just another made up by Fake News tale that is told only to damage me and the Republican Party. The secret source probably does not even exist, just like the story itself. If the discredited @nytimes has a source, reveal it. Just another HOAX!
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PaulS 07-01-2020 12:19 PM

Most unprepared President in our lifetime. Lazy man.

Got Stripers 07-01-2020 12:24 PM

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Most unprepared President in our lifetime. Lazy man.

Come on he isn’t lazy, just look at all the golf he has somehow managed to get in.

Got Stripers 07-01-2020 03:56 PM

Sad state of affairs when the White House messaging is to confirm Trump can walk, drink and now read.
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Pete F. 07-01-2020 08:55 PM

Putin’s Puppet now says he doesn’t believe our intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia is paying bounties to Taliban who kill U.S. troops. Why not? Because . . . wait for it:

Because Putin TOLD him Russia isn’t doing that. Shades of Helsinki. Can this really be happening?
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RickBomba 07-01-2020 10:23 PM

Can I say something?

Why is it every time someone says the Silent Majority, all I can think of is those dumb ass bastards who couldn’t answer all the word prollems in mathy maths?
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Got Stripers 07-02-2020 07:02 AM

It really makes everyone, even his boot licking GOP cronies, question just what Putin has on Trump. Could be the pee tapes or it will come out with the taxes or some shady family business deal will be announced after he leaves.

Pete F. 07-02-2020 12:11 PM

It's all connected by a common denominator

Today they arrested Ghislaine Maxwell and now we know why Colludi was at the White House yesterday, Barr couldn’t stop SDNY arrest of Ghislaine. Same reason they all got together at Lutnicks house next door to Epstein’s before his arrest.

SDNY just announced the Ghislaine Maxwell case, like the original Epstein case, is staffed by the Public Corruption Unit.

Sex trafficking cases do NOT run out of Public Corruption, unless there is some potential angle against a public official.

Two words to explain that: Alex Acosta

Pete F. 07-26-2020 12:54 PM

On Thursday, Trump and Putin discussed arms control.

Today, Putin announced that the Russian Navy would be armed with hypersonic nuclear strike weapons and underwater nuclear drones.

Must have been another perfect phone call.
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detbuch 07-26-2020 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1197651)
On Thursday, Trump and Putin discussed arms control.

Today, Putin announced that the Russian Navy would be armed with hypersonic nuclear strike weapons and underwater nuclear drones.

Must have been another perfect phone call.
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"The idea that 'correlation implies causation' is an example of a questionable-cause logical fallacy."

Pete F. 07-26-2020 06:58 PM

Sure, Jan
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Pete F. 07-29-2020 10:24 AM

"It never reached my desk"..................... is not the brand of leadership our country needs.

And his call with his puppet master was about nuclear proliferation, his most significant actual actions in that area, both withdrawing from the INF Treaty and the Open Skies Treaty, have exposed us to more proliferation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HzB2tAUd64

Pete F. 08-18-2020 12:23 PM

In its thousand page report released just now, ENDORSED BY REPUBLICANS, the Senate intelligence committee offers a raft of damning evidence of the Trump campaign’s eager acceptance of help from a foreign power during the 2016 campaign.
And it’s happening again
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detbuch 08-18-2020 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199097)
In its thousand page report released just now, ENDORSED BY REPUBLICANS, the Senate intelligence committee offers a raft of damning evidence of the Trump campaign’s eager acceptance of help from a foreign power during the 2016 campaign.
And it’s happening again
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A few bullet points from the UK's Daily Mail on the report:

But the report does not conclude there was collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia

Instead Republicans and Democrats offered their own conclusions with Trump's party saying there was no collusion and Democrats arguing there was

Also takes aim at the FBI for using the Steele dossier without adequate vetting

Report also delves into reports of a 'kompromat' tape of Trump and says there is no evidence Russian intel had one


Sounds pretty much like old news.

Pete F. 08-18-2020 02:43 PM

I'm sure this is no big deal but multi-year Senate Intel report has found that Trump's campaign manager was in constant touch with Russian intel officer, and that Roger Stone learned in advance about WikiLeaks dumps at "tasking" of Trump campaign.
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detbuch 08-18-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199101)
I'm sure this is no big deal but multi-year Senate Intel report has found that Trump's campaign manager was in constant touch with Russian intel officer, and that Roger Stone learned in advance about WikiLeaks dumps at "tasking" of Trump campaign.
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Insufficient evidence of conspiracy. No big deal.

Got Stripers 08-18-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199102)
Insufficient evidence of conspiracy. No big deal.

I know no big deal, hey Russia if your listening, I could really use some help and don't forget I'm likely going to need even more in 2020, after I completely fu*k up as I usually do.

Pete F. 08-18-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199102)
Insufficient evidence of conspiracy. No big deal.

The bipartisan 966-page Senate report goes where Mueller feared to tread and unearths a gold mine of compelling evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia’s government to win the American presidency illegally.

And they’re still at it.

Trump told Mueller in written answers that he recalled no conversations with Stone about WikiLeaks.

SSCI: "The Committee assesses that Trump did, in fact, speak with Stone about WikiLeaks and with members of his Campaign about Stone’s access to WikiLeaks on multiple occasions."

We have the right to expect far more of a president than merely that he not be provably a criminal.

We have the right to expect of a president what the Framers expected & the Constitution and his oath demands.

detbuch 08-18-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199105)
The bipartisan 966-page Senate report goes where Mueller feared to tread and unearths a gold mine of compelling evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia’s government to win the American presidency illegally.

And they’re still at it.

Ho hum. More "compelling" evidence.

Trump told Mueller in written answers that he recalled no conversations with Stone about WikiLeaks.

Hillary established the validity of not recalling.

SSCI: "The Committee assesses that Trump did, in fact, speak with Stone about WikiLeaks and with members of his Campaign about Stone’s access to WikiLeaks on multiple occasions."

But Trump didn't recall. It's OK not to recall.

We have the right to expect far more of a president than merely that he not be provably a criminal.

Is that in Article 2?

We have the right to expect of a president what the Framers expected & the Constitution and his oath demands.

I don't recall the "right to expect." No doubt that's part of the vast residuum of rights inherent in the Constitution that the Progressives have pretty much ensured that Judges could interpret out of existence.

Good luck with your right to expect.

If we don't have the right to expect that a President should not be hampered by constant investigations ginned up by phony warrants, or that some executive agency would create those warrants along with a a "compellingly" elaborate narrative of presidential malfeasance built on fabricated evidence in order to criminally remove a President, what do we have a right to expect?

Got Stripers 08-18-2020 04:15 PM

Well let’s look at the chronology, he encouraged Russian interference in our election before he won, so boo hoo, maybe had he played it fair and square life would be different, ah but then he is Trump so nothing would have changed.
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detbuch 08-18-2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1199109)
Well let’s look at the chronology, he encouraged Russian interference in our election before he won, so boo hoo, maybe had he played it fair and square life would be different, ah but then he is Trump so nothing would have changed.
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Perhaps you haven't heard, Mueller mentioned this supposed encouragement you speak of, yet he concluded there was not sufficient evidence to claim that Trump conspired with Russia. Go figure.

Got Stripers 08-18-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199111)
Perhaps you haven't heard, Mueller mentioned this supposed encouragement you speak of, yet he concluded there was not sufficient evidence to claim that Trump conspired with Russia. Go figure.

Nobody is fooled no matter how you spin it, a thousand more pages to show his campaign actively sought help from Russia, then he does it again via Ukraine, lately it’s the USPS and now he wants to meet with Putin ahead of the election, when his taxes are finally public it will all likely make sense even to you.

spence 08-18-2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199111)
Perhaps you haven't heard, Mueller mentioned this supposed encouragement you speak of, yet he concluded there was not sufficient evidence to claim that Trump conspired with Russia. Go figure.

Because of encrypted transmissions and dishonest testimony...

My god.

detbuch 08-18-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1199113)
Because of encrypted transmissions and dishonest testimony...

My god.

Because of his exhaustive, expensive, investigation . . .

Do you have a god?

spence 08-18-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199114)
Because of his exhaustive, expensive, investigation . . .

Do you have a god?

Just restating what Mueller said, backed up by the bi-partisan Senate report.

detbuch 08-18-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1199112)
Nobody is fooled no matter how you spin it, a thousand more pages to show his campaign actively sought help from Russia, then he does it again via Ukraine, lately it’s the USPS and now he wants to meet with Putin ahead of the election, when his taxes are finally public it will all likely make sense even to you.

Not my spin. As the Daily Mail stated: "But the report does not conclude there was collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia" . . . in spite of your spin.

detbuch 08-18-2020 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1199115)
Just restating what Mueller said, backed up by the bi-partisan Senate report.

Mueller said there was not sufficient evidence to determine that Trump conspired with Russia. And the Senate report did not conclude that he did.

Got Stripers 08-18-2020 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199116)
Not my spin. As the Daily Mail stated: "But the report does not conclude there was collusion between Trump's campaign and Russia" . . . in spite of your spin.

He can’t win on his job rating, certainly not on handling this heath crisis (wait until fall not even close to over), when you trash the economy that ship sailed, I’m pretty sure it’s not on foreign relations, oh wait his empathy for American lives loss due to his incompetence opps that won’t play, man he can’t even say look at all the 2016 promises I made good on, what you have left is cheating with foreign help or his go to black and white card. You and your little band of hard core Trumpets are who he plays to, it’s as predictable as your defense of his piss poor performance, VOTE for change or live with the sh*t show that will follow.

Got Stripers 08-18-2020 07:21 PM

Hey I heard a rumor that if elected a Trump is nominating the My Pillow Owner Lindell to head the CDC and the Covid task force.

detbuch 08-18-2020 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1199119)
He can’t win on his job rating, certainly not on handling this heath crisis (wait until fall not even close to over), when you trash the economy that ship sailed, I’m pretty sure it’s not on foreign relations, oh wait his empathy for American lives loss due to his incompetence opps that won’t play, man he can’t even say look at all the 2016 promises I made good on, what you have left is cheating with foreign help or his go to black and white card. You and your little band of hard core Trumpets are who he plays to, it’s as predictable as your defense of his piss poor performance, VOTE for change or live with the sh*t show that will follow.

Talk about spin . . . WOW . . . a real sh*t show of it!

Pete F. 08-18-2020 08:16 PM

The report states flatly that Konstantin Kiliminik is a Russian intelligence officer. So let that sink in: Donald Trump's campaign chairman worked closely with a Russian intelligence officer. Just how can you argue the FBI had no predicate to investigate?
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Pete F. 08-18-2020 08:48 PM

The report states flatly that Konstantin Kiliminik is a Russian intelligence officer. So let that sink in: Donald Trump's campaign chairman worked closely with a Russian intelligence officer. Just how can you argue the FBI had no predicate to investigate?
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Pete F. 08-18-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199122)
Talk about spin . . . WOW . . . a real sh*t show of it!

Mueller could only use evidence that would be admissible in court to reach his conclusions. Even if he couldn't prove a crime (there was lots of obstruction) the GOP gave Trump a pass on soliciting, accepting & benefiting from Russian help to win. Fail.
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detbuch 08-18-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199125)
Mueller could only use evidence that would be admissible in court to reach his conclusions.

Duh . . .

detbuch 08-18-2020 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1199123)
The report states flatly that Konstantin Kiliminik is a Russian intelligence officer. So let that sink in: Donald Trump's campaign chairman worked closely with a Russian intelligence officer. Just how can you argue the FBI had no predicate to investigate?

Basically old news that you can re-hash all you want, I'm not interested. What the Senate report said, among a lot of old news is “We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election,”

Got Stripers 08-19-2020 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199127)
Basically old news that you can re-hash all you want, I'm not interested. What the Senate report said, among a lot of old news is “We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election,”

I really think your board name needs to be changed to DaBarr as it would be more in line with how you roll. Much like Barr you are the resident defender of Trump and as I said above nobody is fooled.

Pete F. 08-19-2020 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199127)
Basically old news that you can re-hash all you want, I'm not interested. What the Senate report said, among a lot of old news is “We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election,”

Wrong

The person running the Trump campaign had a close associate who is a Russian intelligence officer, with whom he was sharing confidential campaign information as Russia mounted its effort to help Trump get elected.
As part of that effort, Russia broke into Democratic systems, then passed damaging information to WikiLeaks for carefully timed release. The president’s longtime friend had a line into the “leak” part of Russia’s hack-and-leak, through which he learned the subject and timing of upcoming leaks and kept Trump personally informed.
If that’s not “collusion,” what is?
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spence 08-19-2020 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1199127)
Basically old news that you can re-hash all you want, I'm not interested. What the Senate report said, among a lot of old news is “We can say, without any hesitation, that the Committee found absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election,”

That’s not what the report said, it’s what Rubio said and he’s either lying or he didn’t read his own report.

This once again blows Trump and Barr’s claims of a hoax to bits and highlighting that Trump lied to the FBI.
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Pete F. 08-19-2020 07:54 AM

Everyone in Trump's orbit lied to Mueller & SSCI about the campaigns involvement with Russia. People don't lie under oath & risk perjury charges unless they are hiding something. Something big. We all know what it is. And the GOP gave Trump a pass for it.

The committee made a bi-partisan CRIMINAL REFERRAL of Don Jr., Kushner, Bannon & others to the DC US Attorney’s Office.

No wonder Barr was so desperate to pull career US Attorney Jessie Liu from her position to install his lackey. Do we think that the lackey, Tim Shea, who dumbed down the Roger Stone sentence AND tried to tank the Mike Flynn case was going to let Don Jr., Jared and Bannon be prosecuted?


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