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wdmso 11-01-2020 06:12 PM

The party of voter suppression
 
Republicans Seek To Toss Out 127,000 Ballots In Democratic-Leaning Texas County


So let's get this straight. Reublicans want to punish 127 thousands voters for following instructions. And they just happen to be democrats 2 days before an election ..

I guess this is the new America

wdmso 11-01-2020 06:29 PM

Texas Supreme Court rejects Republican-led effort to throw out nearly 127,000 Harris County votes


Amazing that it even needed to be rejected. Never mind even being considered by Republicans

Pete F. 11-02-2020 07:35 AM

Covita and his apparatchiks like Jason Miller aren’t uninformed about how votes are cast, or confused about how long it takes to count them. They know what they’re doing. They’ve given up trying to win the election. They’re trying to lay the groundwork for stealing it.
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wdmso 11-02-2020 11:37 AM

Pennsylvania Republicans sue to allow poll watchers to cross county lines

Pennsylvania Republicans have filed a lawsuit, arguing that their activists have First and 14th Amendment rights to watch polls anywhere.


they can have poll watchers the state law requires them to be from the county of the pole they want to watch ?

wdmso 11-02-2020 01:47 PM

Trump campaign senior adviser Jason Miller falsely claimed on Sunday that Democrats would try to "steal" electoral votes after election night if President Trump appears to be ahead,

So now counting all the ballots is Stealing ???

scottw 11-02-2020 04:26 PM

rut roh.....

"as Democratic former Vice President Joe Biden has faded"....Des Moines Register

look on the bright side...he is inventing some new words ....:biglaugh:

I don't know....could go either way but seems like some panic on the left and lots of enthusiasm and confidence on the right....those trump trains look like fun

wdmso 11-02-2020 04:57 PM

President Trump is doubling down on claims that the results of the presidential election must be known on election night, falsely asserting "that's the way it's been and that's the way it should be."
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scottw 11-02-2020 05:02 PM

biden sounds especially cranky today...maybe he didn't get his nappy time

wdmso 11-02-2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204422)
rut roh.....

"as Democratic former Vice President Joe Biden has faded"....Des Moines Register

look on the bright side...he is inventing some new words ....:biglaugh:

I don't know....could go either way but seems like some panic on the left and lots of enthusiasm and confidence on the right....those trump trains look like fun

Was he going to win iowa or since when does biden needs iowa to win?

So Suggestion of fraud is the right showing enthusiasm and confidence .
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scottw 11-02-2020 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204425)
Was he going to win iowa or since when does biden needs iowa to win?


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I think he was leading there till a couple days ago and....trump surging there could also indicate trump surging in neighboring states...i wouldn't worry though...biden is WAAAAY up according to the experts:kewl:;)

scottw 11-02-2020 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204425)
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So Suggestion of fraud.....

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it's smart to keep a close eye on the democrats...they are pretty desperate and a little unhinged

spence 11-02-2020 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204426)
I think he was leading there till a couple days ago and....trump surging there could also indicate trump surging in neighboring states...i wouldn't worry though...biden is WAAAAY up according to the experts:kewl:;)

I think a few polls had them tied in Iowa at one point but few expect Biden to win, Trump's simply bribed farmers with tens of billions of dollars.

You're usually an irrational snide drama queen but it seems to be getting worse.

scottw 11-02-2020 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1204428)
I think a few polls had them tied in Iowa at one point but few expect Biden to win, Trump's simply bribed farmers with tens of billions of dollars.

You're usually an irrational snide drama queen but it seems to be getting worse.

See that,,,,,,bitter, cranky leftist

headline form the Guardian

Trump lead in Iowa poll rattles Democrats


3 days ago US NEWS and World Report JOE BIDEN LEFT IOWA IN February humiliated. He returned Friday in triumph, not only as a Democratic nominee leading in national polls but as a candidate who is now competitive in a state President Donald Trump won handily in 2016. Iowa appeared to be a long-shot for Biden until recently, when polling began to show a dead heat. Some polling has even shown Biden slightly ahead.

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scottw 11-02-2020 05:51 PM

oh crap

Published 10 hours ago
Biden's lead shrinks in Pennsylvania in final days of race: poll
Both candidates held events in the Keystone State over the weekend

I think biden went to Iowa on friday and pennsylvania over the weekend...you'd think that would have helped him :gu:

scottw 11-02-2020 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1204428)

You're usually an irrational snide drama queen but it seems to be getting worse.

I believe the word is "snarky" ...I have tee shirts:kewl:

wdmso 11-02-2020 06:12 PM

A Nevada judge has rejected a lawsuit by President Trump's reelection campaign and state Republican officials seeking to halt mail-in ballot counting in Clark County.

The county, home to Las Vegas, is by far the state's most populous. About 70% of Nevada's voters live in the county, which is "heavily Democratic,"


funny who hasn't commented on theses activities why is that Jim, Scott ,Detbuch ...

scottw 11-03-2020 03:19 AM

Wayne, you post a snippet of a story that you think supports your narrative....but you completely ignore "the big picture":) do you read the stories or just cut and paste the headlines?

Hundreds of lawsuits have already been filed by Democrats, Republicans over the 2020 US election
Posted Yesterday at 10:24pm

Voting lawsuits pile up across US as election approaches
Democrats and Republicans are involved in hundreds of lawsuits across the country relating to the upcoming election
By ERIC TUCKER Associated Press

In the Most Litigated Election Ever, Early Democratic Wins but Few Clear Signals
But the legal wars over the 2020 election are just getting going.

The Dad Fisherman 11-03-2020 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204425)
since when does biden needs iowa to win?

Campaign advice from Hillary?

wdmso 11-03-2020 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204437)
Wayne, you post a snippet of a story that you think supports your narrative....but you completely ignore "the big picture":) do you read the stories or just cut and paste the headlines?

Hundreds of lawsuits have already been filed by Democrats, Republicans over the 2020 US election
Posted Yesterday at 10:24pm

Voting lawsuits pile up across US as election approaches
Democrats and Republicans are involved in hundreds of lawsuits across the country relating to the upcoming election
By ERIC TUCKER Associated Press

In the Most Litigated Election Ever, Early Democratic Wins but Few Clear Signals
But the legal wars over the 2020 election are just getting going.

that the justices had made a “political” decision that would lead to cheating by his opponent, former Vice President


Keep your head in the sand. Still waiting to see democrat lawsuits trying to stop counting votes
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scottw 11-03-2020 06:24 AM

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Still waiting to see democrat lawsuits trying to stop counting votes

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those come as soon as they think they are ahead...

Jim in CT 11-03-2020 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1204428)
I think a few polls had them tied in Iowa at one point but few expect Biden to win, Trump's simply bribed farmers with tens of billions of dollars.

You're usually an irrational snide drama queen but it seems to be getting worse.

i thought he killed all the farmers with tariffs? that’s what the Narrative was a couple of years ago.
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Jim in CT 11-03-2020 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204412)


law requires them to be from the county of the pole they want to watch ?

poll, not pole. simple
mistake, you’ve probably been watching too much of Kamela Harris, so you have “pole” on the brain.

you’re probably gonna have a good day.
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spence 11-03-2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204454)
i thought he killed all the farmers with tariffs? that’s what the Narrative was a couple of years ago.
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I believe it’s about 46 billion in taxpayer funded subsidies this year alone.
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Pete F. 11-03-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1204459)
I believe it’s about 46 billion in taxpayer funded subsidies this year alone.
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But state supported farms, where the state decides what you should grow or not is obviously capitalism
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spence 11-03-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204467)
But state supported farms, where the state decides what you should grow or not is obviously capitalism
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And now farmers are increasingly dependent on Government assistance to feed their families. Their decisions on crops are based not on a free market but on the whim of politically motivated tariff policies.

And John supports this because it's not "progressive."

detbuch 11-03-2020 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1204470)
And now farmers are increasingly dependent on Government assistance to feed their families. Their decisions on crops are based not on a free market but on the whim of politically motivated tariff policies.

And John supports this because it's not "progressive."

Actually, the tariffs are a defense of a free market. Trade with China was not a free market. It was a one way rip off in favor of China. It was depression of the free market in this country as we became dependent on state sponsored cheap goods from a country whose policies, along with the foolish cooperation of corporations in this country, was draining us of competitive manufacturing. It was a model for economic suicide. The Founders would have approved of the tariffs.

And if Trump loses, the tariffs will be lifted, China will be back on track to destroying us economically, militarily, and politically. If he wins, China loses and will have to come to some more equitable terms or suffer economic collapse and overthrow of the Communist Party.

Pete F. 11-03-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1204479)
Actually, the tariffs are a defense of a free market. Trade with China was not a free market. It was a one way rip off in favor of China. It was depression of the free market in this country as we became dependent on state sponsored cheap goods from a country whose policies, along with the foolish cooperation of corporations in this country, was draining us of competitive manufacturing. It was a model for economic suicide. The Founders would have approved of the tariffs.

And if Trump loses, the tariffs will be lifted, China will be back on track to destroying us economically, militarily, and politically. If he wins, China loses and will have to come to some more equitable terms or suffer economic collapse and overthrow of the Communist Party.

I thought Tweety and you were sorta kinda not proponents of regime change?
Oddly enough Chinas GDP and our trade balance with them tell a different story than that claim of Covita producing a failure of the Chinese economy
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wdmso 11-03-2020 11:55 AM

“The Supreme Court decision on voting in Pennsylvania is a VERY dangerous one,” Trump tweeted. “It will allow rampant and unchecked cheating and will undermine our entire systems of laws. It will also induce violence in the streets. Something must be done!”

a vote for Trump equals an agreement with his tweets and The Republican party has waged a brazen legal onslaught against voting rights throughout key states in recent weeks, a cynical effort designed to better the sitting president’s reelection chances.

Jim I wish you were more concerned with the above behavior then worried about auto spelling . not shocked you insulted Harris seeing shes a women what would Amy Coney Barrett think

detbuch 11-03-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204484)
I thought Tweety and you were sorta kinda not proponents of regime change?

??? Not in favor of futile nation building by starting a war. Always been in favor of the collapse of Communism. And I think it's stupid to support Communism by letting our money and technology to flow to it.

Oddly enough Chinas GDP and our trade balance with them tell a different story than that claim of Covita producing a failure of the Chinese economy

If we recapture our manufacturing capability instead of depending on China, it will lose a huge source of income. It's living off the gas from our previous letting it rape us. China's global plan needs to be exposed, and the rest of the world needs a signal that it is not necessary to let it happen.

And we certainly need to get out of depending on China for our most critical medical and technological needs. Our own corporations need to be persuaded to come back. Tariffs and tax policies are a peaceful means to achieve that. Going back to the way it was pre-Trump is slow and increasingly quicker national suicide.

Jim in CT 11-03-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204485)
“The Supreme Court decision on voting in Pennsylvania is a VERY dangerous one,” Trump tweeted. “It will allow rampant and unchecked cheating and will undermine our entire systems of laws. It will also induce violence in the streets. Something must be done!”

a vote for Trump equals an agreement with his tweets and The Republican party has waged a brazen legal onslaught against voting rights throughout key states in recent weeks, a cynical effort designed to better the sitting president’s reelection chances.

Jim I wish you were more concerned with the above behavior then worried about auto spelling . not shocked you insulted Harris seeing shes a women what would Amy Coney Barrett think

i don’t like voter suppression any more than i like shenanigans with mail in ballots, which any rational person would say is vulnerable to abuse.

haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett got where she is, the way Harris did. Have you?

Harris and Barrett aren’t the same just because they’re women.
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Jim in CT 11-03-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204485)

a vote for Trump equals an agreement with his tweets

stupid. is a vote for biden a vote for plagiarism, endless race-baiting, lying, and rape?
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wdmso 11-03-2020 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204487)
i don’t like voter suppression any more than i like shenanigans with mail in ballots, which any rational person would say is vulnerable to abuse.

haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett got where she is, the way Harris did. Have you?

Harris and Barrett aren’t the same just because they’re women.
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Seems most of your suggestions are from the conspericy world . Not suprising

Ps Amy is from a cult who knows her vices

Jim in CT 11-03-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204489)

Ps Amy is from a cult who knows her vices

i thought biden was also catholic?
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Jim in CT 11-03-2020 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204489)

Ps Amy is from a cult who knows her vices

Barrett has 5 children, one of whom
is special needs. yet she adopted two orphans from haiti.

neither you nor i will improve the world to that degree. but you dump
on her because she has an R after her name.
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Pete F. 11-03-2020 01:22 PM

Keep grasping at straws, man.

Tweety has paid $27 million in fraud settlements just since becoming president, and his longtime personal lawyer went to jail for crimes that prosecutors said were committed "in coordination with and at the direction of" the president.
And he claims he is "perhaps the most innocent man anywhere in the history of the United States."
I'll sum up his presidency. He betrayed the country twice: he allowed a foreign power to undermine American democracy & he permitted a pandemic to do far more damage beyond what was unavoidable. And Trumplicans colluded with him. Utter treachery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWMBi6Thork

scottw 11-03-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204489)

conspericy

we really need to ban you from using this word...you've worn it out

scottw 11-03-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204489)

Ps Amy is from a cult who knows her vices

she's pretty awesome...you are just jealous

detbuch 11-03-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204492)
I'll sum up his presidency. He betrayed the country twice: he allowed a foreign power to undermine American democracy & he permitted a pandemic to do far more damage beyond what was unavoidable. And Trumplicans colluded with him. Utter treachery.

As Progressive as your political views on the power of our President seem to be, you don't seem to have confidence in the political jewel of Progressivism--our powerful regulatory, administrative, and intelligence agencies. They pretty much are supposed to do things like control a pandemic and defend us from foreign powers "undermining" our "democracy." They even undermine our own democracy, for instance, by attempting to remove a duly elected President. Utter treachery.

Pete F. 11-03-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1204497)
As Progressive as your political views on the power of our President seem to be, you don't seem to have confidence in the political jewel of Progressivism--our powerful regulatory, administrative, and intelligence agencies. They pretty much are supposed to do things like control a pandemic and defend us from foreign powers "undermining" our "democracy." They even undermine our own democracy, for instance, by attempting to remove a duly elected President. Utter treachery.

And with your viewpoint he is titular at best, with no responsibility and yet as a unitary president possessing tremendous powers.

In 2016, Putin mounted a covert op to sow discord, hurt Clinton & help Trump. When this plot became public—when WikiLeaks dumped DNC emails and documents stolen by Russian hackers—the Trump campaign (including Paul Manafort & Donald Jr) denied the Russian attack.
The Trump campaign aided & abetted the Russian attack by providing cover for Moscow and by echoing Putin's false denials. The campaign did this even though it had tried to collude with a Kremlin operative as part of what it was told was a secret Moscow plot to help Trump.
This was the infamous June 9, 2016 Trump Tower meeting, attended by Jr., Kushner, and Manafort. The meeting informed the Trump campaign that Russia was trying to secretly help Trump AND it signaled to the Kremlin that the Trump campaign welcomed its covert assistance.
Meanwhile, Manafort was secretly communicating with a Russian intelligence official (as the recent Senate intel comm. report described him) and sharing polling data with him. The report noted that this Konstantin Kilimnik might have been connected to Putin's hack-and-leak operation.
So here was Trump's campaign manager possibly colluding with a Russian intelligence officer. At the least, Manafort was again signaling to Moscow that the campaign did not mind its underhanded intervention in the election.
Trump signaled this directly himself when he publicly called on Russian hackers to hack Clinton and find the personal emails that she had destroyed. Trump aides later said he was joking. But that same day, Russian hackers did try to break into HRC's email.
And there's this: through the first half of 2016, Trump was secretly trying to do a huge Moscow tower deal. His lawyer, Michael Cohen, even asked Putin's office for help with the venture. Yet Trump said nothing to American voters about this project.
This was probably the most significant conflict-of-interest in modern American presidential politics. While being asked to comment on Putin and Russia—and making positive public statements about Putin—Trump was attempting to make big money in Moscow.
His Moscow deal certainly would not go through if he criticized Putin. Trump was compromised in this way. Plus, he claimed he had nothing to do with Russia regarding business. That was a lie.
During the first half of 2016, George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign aide, repeatedly tried to set up a private link between the campaign and Putin's office. This was yet another signal to Moscow that the Trump campaign did not mind Russia's intervention in the US election.
In August 2017, Trump was briefed by US intel that Russia was behind the hack-and-leak operation. Still, Trump publicly and repeatedly stated there was no reason to suspect it was Russia. For the rest of the race, he kept covering for Putin. Imagine how the Kremlin saw this.
As the Senate intelligence committee report notes, even as Trump and his aides publicly denied Russia was intervening, they sought to exploit the attack. Trump even used Roger Stone to try to get inside information from WikiLeaks about its releases of Russian-stolen material.
The Senate intelligence committee report—which was endorsed by its GOP members—essentially says that Trump lied to the Mueller probe when he said he could not recall any discussions with Stone about this.
So as Trump tacitly helped the Russian operation in 2016, the Kremlin plot continued--with a big release of material that began on the day the Access Hollywood tape emerged and that continued for the last four weeks of the race.
This prolonged dump helped shape the race in the final weeks and, no doubt, was one factor in Trump's victory. The Russians succeeded. Trump was elected with Putin's direct assistance.
In the years after the 2016 election, Trump has continued to aid and abet by denying or discounting the Russian intervention. In 2017, he told Russian officials visiting the White House he wasn't concerned w/ the 2016 attack. He allowed them to get away with it.
During the 2020 campaign, as US intelligence officials have stated publicly that Putin was covertly intervening again, Trump has said nothing about this. He has refused to challenge Putin or protect the US election. He has once again betrayed the nation he swore to defend.

Pete F. 11-03-2020 03:11 PM

Distracted by Detbuch’s claim that Covita was unfairly impeached
Back to voter suppression
1. Ohio SOS Frank LaRose opposing drop boxes while claiming his hands were tied.
2. TX Gov. Abbott reversing on boxes.
3. Pa. legislators and North Carolina legislators going all the way to the Supreme Court to try to stop extension of receipt of mail-in ballots mailed by election day.
4. Alabama SOS Merrill fighting against allowing counties to offer curbside voting for immunocompromised voters
5. South Carolina not challenging judicial elimination of witness signature during primaries, but challenging (all the way to the Supreme Court) same rule applied in general election; and doing so after instructions told voters no signature needed
6. Wisconsin Republican legislators refusing to postpone April primary election in the height of the pandemic, going all the way to state AND U.S. Supreme Court, and fighting extension of ballot receipt deadline in general election all the way to SCOTUS.
7. RNC and allies seeking to stop sending ballots to all active registered voters in CA, NJ, NV, and some Montana counties.
8. Leonard Leo-backed "Honest Elections Project" fighting against counting of ballots arriving after election day in MN, and getting 8th Circuit to consider
9. Republican legislator and candidate filing last minute case in federal and state court seeking to disenfranchise 120,000 voters using drive-thru voting in Harris County, TX that is allowed by state law.
10. Republican legislators in PA and WI (and to some extent MI) refusing to allow pre-canvassing of mail in ballots (as allowed in places like FL and UT) in the hopes it would give Trump an ephemeral chance to be in the lead.
11. The Oklahoma legislature's reenactment of a notarization requirement for absentee balloting after the state Supreme Court threw it out in light of COVID.
12. Georgia SOS and election officials going to the 11th circuit to reverse a district court order that would have required paper backup of voter registration information for use in polling places in case electronic system goes down AGAIN.
13. Five Republican-dominated states, including TX and Indiana, that refused, even after being sued, to allowing people to vote by mail if they lack immunity to COVID. Texas litigating in US and state Supreme Court to say lack of immunity is not a "disability" or discrimination.
14. Florida officials also fighting the expansion of drop boxes even in the midst of a pandemic and in the middle of a USPS crisis in mail delivery that doubtlessly will disenfranchise thousands of voters who mailed their ballots at least a week before election day.
15. Lawsuits in PA, MN, TX and likely elsewhere seeking to block ballots using a doctrine never accepted by a Supreme Court majority about a kind of unlimited power of state legislatures to set voting rules to exclusion of state courts and state and local election administrators.
16. Lawsuits across the country, one even going all the way to Supreme Court, seeking to block charitable contributions from Zuckerberg foundation to defray cost of running election during pandemic; after Congress allocated only 1/10 of needed funds when Senate Rs blocked.
"The Trump campaign and Republican entities engaged in more than 40 voting and ballot court cases around the country this year. In exactly none — zero — are they trying to make it easier for citizens to vote."--GOP election attorney Ben Ginsberg
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