obama says BLM would have been treated differently if they stormed the capital
 

Can we be honest about anything?

The trump supporters who stormed the capital were fired upon and put down fairly quickly.

The BLM rioters this summer were allowed to burn cities and loot and assault people for days and days.

Which of those things I said, is false? The antifa thugs were allowed to burn buildings u til
they ran out of gasoline.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oba...esponse-to-blm

Common sense says he’s exactly right. Trump’s lucky a lot more people didn’t get killed. His response was pathetic, it just killed him to have to criticize his crazies.

Bigger question is what’s next.
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how does common sense say he’s right, when we can see the kid gloves with which BLM protesters were treated all summer? this isnt speculative, there are actual, empirical
results.

has obama ever said anything you thought was stupid?
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Your own link references studies that refute your assertion,

Don’t think it’s just about race though, in this case you also have a mob decked out in MAGA gear and American flags who fanatically support the President...I’d wager a lot of the capital police support him as well.

Still don’t understand how they let this happen.
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you’re ignoring what BlLM got away with this summer, and for how long. easy to make your point when you ignore what refutes your point.
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Oh the irony, Trumps executive order might put his crazy supporters in some serious trouble.

Sec. 2. Policy. (a) It is the policy of the United States to prosecute to the fullest extent permitted under Federal law, and as appropriate, any person or any entity that destroys, damages, vandalizes, or desecrates a monument, memorial, or statue within the United States or otherwise vandalizes government property. The desire of the Congress to protect Federal property is clearly reflected in section 1361 of title 18, United States Code, which authorizes a penalty of up to 10 years’ imprisonment for the willful injury of Federal property. More recently, under the Veterans’ Memorial Preservation and Recognition Act of 2003, section 1369 of title 18, United States Code, the Congress punished with the same penalties the destruction of Federal and in some cases State-maintained monuments that honor military veterans. Other criminal statutes, such as the Travel Act, section 1952 of title 18, United States Code, permit prosecutions of arson damaging monuments, memorials, and statues on State grounds in some cases. Civil statutes like the Public System Resource Protection Act, section 100722 of title 54, United States Code, also hold those who destroy certain Federal property accountable for their offenses. The Federal Government will not tolerate violations of these and other laws.

Black lives matter didn’t storm the Capitol building trying to overthrow the results of our entire country’s election.

The pro-Trump protesters didn’t revolt in their regional cities and try to overthrow local governments.

What black lives matter DID do in our nation’s Capitol was protest outside the White House and were marched on by the national guard and dispersed.

The pro-trumpers had the barricades moved out of their way to be let in, only after they started tearing the building apart and making it to the actual floors of Congress were any shots fired or tear gas deployed in an attempt to quell the event.

If you’re going to compare things, choose the things that are closest to each other to compare, otherwise you sound like an a-s-shat
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I’ve read that about 15,000 people were arrested over the summer in protest related activities. That doesn’t sound like getting away with much.

But to make comparisons like that is pretty stupid. For months the President and his sycophants have been brazenly lying to the American people to undermine our Democracy. They have activated crazies and instigated an insurrection at the US Capital like never before seen in our lifetimes.

Guess what, now that they have seen what they can do they will try and up their game. Trump is playing with fire and he just doesn’t get it.
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If you look at the report and data that the article was derived from the difference in how the right and left were treated by authorities having jurisdiction is much more common and aggressive for left leaning demonstrations

https://acleddata.com/2020/12/10/the...ion-in-the-us/
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first of all, the rioters were protesting the results, not trying to overturn the results. how could they have overturned the results? is there a piece of paper with biden’s name on it that they could have erased and written in trumps name, and then trump is president? they had no plan or anything. why can’t we accurately describe what happened? 200 jerks were going to overturn an election? you think they thought, hat they’d overturn the election? they blew a gasket and acted like wild animals.

second, you’re right, blm didnt break into the capital. they burned buildings to the ground. which is worse.
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they were given days, weeks in some cases. true or false?
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what’s stupid, is saying every single
time, that the liberal was right and the conservative was wrong. being physically incapable of speaking against a party platform, ever.
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No, the Trump crazies believe Trump won and were trying to disrupt the process thinking he could prevail by Pence or Senators overriding the results.

I’m not aware of BLM protestors burning buildings to the ground either. Perhaps looters or anarchists.
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it’s hard to compare, because there aren’t a whole lot of conservative riots to choose from. too many though.

i didn’t make the comparison. obama did. i responded to obama’s comparison. so you’re saying obama was stupid? i agree.
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the floyd protests cost between 1-2 billion in damage, and lasted 13 days.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.ya...175811139.html
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they caused 19 deaths.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests

and chris cuomo said “please show
me where it says protests are supposed to be peaceful.”

and trump is to be impeached again for inflammatory language, but Al Sharpton is still a major force in the democrat party. because that makes all kinds of sense.

nothing is ever applied consistently with you guys or your side.

Twitter bans trump, but the Ayatollah and Farrakhan are still active.

Jim, has a BLM protest ever required the Vice President of the United States and other top government officials to be swept to safety by the Secret Service? Asking for a friend.

Some very bad stuff happened around the BLM protests, this is very different and I fear we haven’t even seen the worst of it yet, and Trump is largely to blame.
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that’s an extremely valid point. the answer is no. but BLM protests did more to disrupt state and local
governments where they took place. in one town, they locked
police officers in a building, poured gas in it, and tried to set it on fire.

and you’re not commenting, for obvious reasons, on the fact that those protests were allowed to continue for a week, and that liberals bent over backwards to avoid calling those people
feral
animals.
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this is great...you must be very excited...can we charge all of those "traitors by association" who were home watching from their La-Z-Boy recliners too?!...we can't have them getting away with thought crimes...

Nope sitting cheering on the Trumps crazy conspiracy theory drunk nut jobs from your lazy boy isn’t criminal, your lame attempt at humor might be.
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"Your guy is a traitor attempting a coup, you by association are the same" signed Got Stripers


I wouldn't call it humor....

The pen can be poisonous.🤡
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Oooooh said the guy spewing venom for four years, that’s rich!
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One of the interesting things about woke populism is a willingness to make fantastically disingenuous claims to achieve maximum victimhood.
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did he ever call you a traitor?...just curious:hee:

the left is really struggling with their competing narratives here, are the cops heroes who battled and defended our nation against the seditionist trumplican army or are they racists who aided the trumplican army to topple our government?

:huh:

"67% of Americans lay blame squarely at Trump's feet for the riot and the breach that led to the death of five...This includes 52% who believe he shoulders a great deal of the responsibility. Only 15% of those polled say that he bears none of the blame."
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Trump still has not ordered flags flown to have staff for the dead capital policeman.
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Love the security camera videos coming out showing Republican representatives opening the doors and waving the nuts in. When the election is done, votes counted over and over, 50+ court cases dismissed without cause, it’s time to think about country first and yet these true Patriots just feel like nope we wants to stir up the pot just a bit more.

I think that was at a statehouse and not the Capital.
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Poor snowflakes who broke into the Capitol Wednesday are now learning they are on No-Fly lists pending the full investigation. They are not happy about this. Claiming to not be terrorists, because the President told them to do it.
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Capitol building late December, it happened before, they likely had help again. How many pardons will Trump be giving out as charges mount for those committing trespass, crimes and murder in one instance. I don’t think you can pardon stupidity for the guy sitting in Pelosis office, stealing her mail and the bragging about it in an interview the next day.

republicans like tom cotton and dan crenshaw agree with you 100%.

here’s the difference between the 2 sides. could you please point me to influential democrats in DC, who this summer, called for the liberal
rioters to stop, and who called out the liberal politicians and liberals in the media, to stop instigating them by lying about police?

i’ll wait for you to tell me who the democrats are who did that.

almost nobody on the right is defending what happened in dc ( it’s indefensible). almost nobody on the left called out the summer
riots which left 19 dead.

and if inflammatory language and enciing riots is bad, why is Al Sharpton legitimized and embraced by the democrat party? or is inciting a riot only problematic when republicans do it?

do you really not see any hypocrisy?
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this is correct, nobody is defending or making excuses for those that committed criminal acts...if these were democrats, celebrities and wealthy leftists would be bailing them out of jail so they won't miss the next planned event

I haven't heard anyone claim the officer who shot the woman in the neck was sexist or a misogynist or denounce the Capitol police as "systemically sexist"....

it's awful that she was shot and killed but she put herself is a situation that could end badly for her and it did....

the media is struggling to remind us that 5 people "WERE KILLED"...but one died of a stroke and another from a heart attack...which is unfortunate but I guess they count these deaths like covid now.....the woman who was shot....there is another who they say was trampled but there is very little info and then the police officer who died which is tragic, at least to those of us who support the police.....

at least these folks took their grievances to the government...

we know the left likes to air their grievances by destroying neighborhoods and the property of others and threatening and intimidating people in their neighborhoods and businesses and on their way to work.... which is actually NOT how it is supposed to work....

“I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump–I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough—until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.”
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Innuendo

New: FBI now reports in a bulletin "Armed protests are being planned at all 50 state capitols from 16 January through at least 20 January, and at the US Capitol from 17 January through 20 January,”

Clearly the proper move here is to surrender to these folks and not hold Trump and his enablers accountable for inciting a murderous riot.
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The massive gathering of Trump supporters at the Capitol was "mostly peaceful." The vast majority of them weren't aware of the rioting. It is reported that some who were up close shouted against it.

The narrative is that Trump "incited" the riot. You went further in your interpretation that he knew exactly what was going to happen and that he wanted it--you even connected riotous "sounding" words to him which he had not spoken nor implied (your usual innuendo). Quite the opposite, he spoke of, and expected, a demonstration that would be peaceful and lawful. He was "happy" that so many showed up to give powerful and visible support to his cause.

"Clearly," if the FBI knows about such plans that they report, they should arrest any that are breaking the law, and prepare themselves and the proper agencies to be ready to quell any riots.

It's not necessary for you to insinuate that Trump and his supporters are murderous, riotous thugs. Such language fans any existing embers into actual flames.

Maybe, as the adage goes, it takes one to know one. Maybe your the one inciting future riots.

Let’s begin redefining this: If people are armed, it’s not a protest. America doesn’t need or support or condone armed “protests.”

Political commentators are falling into mistake that violent terror threats get less so if some mercy (no impeachment) is shown its leader. There is history of counterterrorism efforts that show otherwise. Only complete isolation, powerlessness, deplatforming, of leader works.
For the next 10 days and beyond, Trump has to be seen as ineffectual, without oxygen, so he can not have second act. No soft exit. It’s horrible to admit, but do not buy into argument that violence is less if we put a brake on gas pedal. They need to be stopped.
But the violence is actually worse if they, and future recruits, view him as strong. They want to back a winner. We prepare for violence but it will be less so in the future with no leadership and if they know their leader can’t help them.
Maybe I’m sounding too harsh, no mercy etc. He may be president of the United States but he is also inciter of domestic terrorism. And his complete isolation and condemnation is the safest path forward. We can’t stop now. Total isolation.

You know, I understand whites are angry but it’s such a shame that when they riot, they just destroy their own neighborhood!

You can try and normalize Trump's behavior all you want, he is headed for the dustbin of history, to be listed as the worst president ever.

Trump organized and incited this riot. His supporters proceeded to kill a Capitol Police Officer. This may not have occurred on 5th Avenue, but Trump is responsible for this homicide. He bragged that he could get away with this exact thing. Will we let him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilP0XzkAp0I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQkV...ature=emb_logo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO3T...ature=emb_logo

No maybe about it, other than it's not merely that you're sounding too harsh . . . you're sounding like a tyrant . . . which includes the various constant lying and insinuating, and conjecturing, and labeling that has led up to your tyrannical conclusion.

But I do appreciate that you finally admit and define what you're doing. For all those who wondered why you would not respond with logical, rational argument, actual conversation, but would just ignore, and repeat, no matter how your lies were debunked, now you can all see the true, fanatical, authoritarian disposition driving Pete's unreasonable, one-sided, relentless rhetoric.