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Jim in CT 05-19-2022 04:26 PM

Quinnipiac poll has Bidens approval with Hispanics at 26%
 
Nothing to see, dems going to sweep the elections in November.

One year ago, his Hispanic approval rating was 55%.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ating-plummets

wdmso 05-19-2022 04:27 PM

Now conservatives like Hispanics

You can’t make this stuff up!
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Jim in CT 05-19-2022 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1226985)
Now conservatives like Hispanics

You can’t make this stuff up!
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I don't have to make it up. Unlike you, I can respond to actual events and facts. The GOP has been making SLIGHT gains with Hispanics, and the data suggests that Hispanics shifted to the right in the VA governors race. Most recent polls are showing the same thing.

Quinnipiac is a liberal university in one of the most liberal states in the country (CT). Are they making this up?

You keep your head in the sand and your fingers in your ears, and pretend to be shocked at what likely (not certainly)happens in November.

The democrats control the entire federal government, and now on top of everything else, the economy is failing. A recession is likely, JP Morgan says average USA gas prices will be $6 by August.

Again, not all of this is the dems fault, but for sure it's all their problem.

Raider Ronnie 05-19-2022 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1226985)
Now conservatives like Hispanics

You can’t make this stuff up!
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Who ever said conservatives don’t like Hispanics ?
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Jim in CT 05-19-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1226993)
Who ever said conservatives don’t like Hispanics ?
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liberals say it constantly. we hate everyone who isnt white.
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wdmso 05-20-2022 03:24 AM

Wow you 2 live in a fantasy world don’t you!

In that world good Hispanics are Cuban the rest are invaders , rapists , drug smugglers, and human traffickers.. and don’t forget they get free baby formula .
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Jim in CT 05-20-2022 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227008)
Wow you 2 live in a fantasy world don’t you!

In that world good Hispanics are Cuban the rest are invaders , rapists , drug smugglers, and human traffickers.. and don’t forget they get free baby formula .
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All i did, was comment on the Quinnipiac poll.

You then said the gop doesn’t like hispanics, you ( not me ) said the only good hispanics are Cuban ( i never came close to saying that), and you then say that i’m the one living in fantasy world.

Do you have anything to say about the poll?

If that poll is within 10 points of
being correct, your party is done. Demographics are the future, and the demographic trend is more hispanics compared to whites

Biden is doing better with whites than he is with hispanics. If i was someone who thinks like you, and thank God I’m not, I’d speculate that democrats are bigoted against hispanics. Like you speculate that republicans are bigoted against blacks.z

Mexicans are also largely catholic, as are hispanics from other places. Maybe the left, as is their pattern, went a zillion miles too far to the whole left, and alienated themselves from Catholic Hispanics, who might not like to be told they’re all hatemongers who despise women

Look at the godawful state 8 years of obama left the democrats. . When he was done,,democrats held fewer elected offices in the US than any time since Civil War reconstruction, and that’s a fact. The DNC learned absolutely nothing from that. Your side literally has zero ability to respond to empirical facts and results. They can never any part of their ideology doesn’t work.

America likes moderate presidents and policies, not radical extremists on either side.
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wdmso 05-20-2022 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227012)
All i did, was comment on the Quinnipiac poll.

You then said the gop doesn’t like hispanics, you ( not me ) said the only good hispanics are Cuban ( i never came close to saying that), and you then say that i’m the one living in fantasy world.

Do you have anything to say about the poll?

If that poll is within 10 points of
being correct, your party is done. Demographics are the future, and the demographic trend is more hispanics compared to whites

Biden is doing better with whites than he is with hispanics. If i was someone who thinks like you, and thank God I’m not, I’d speculate that democrats are bigoted against hispanics. Like you speculate that republicans are bigoted against blacks.z

Mexicans are also largely catholic, as are hispanics from other places. Maybe the left, as is their pattern, went a zillion miles too far to the whole left, and alienated themselves from Catholic Hispanics, who might not like to be told they’re all hatemongers who despise women

Look at the godawful state 8 years of obama left the democrats. . When he was done,,democrats held fewer elected offices in the US than any time since Civil War reconstruction, and that’s a fact. The DNC learned absolutely nothing from that. Your side literally has zero ability to respond to empirical facts and results. They can never any part of their ideology doesn’t work.

America likes moderate presidents and policies, not radical extremists on either side.
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Jim not sure why you think every response is about you?

The GOP and it’s supporters vilified Hispanics any chance they get..

And only support the Hispanics whom they think and when it’s convenient.. that’s pretty evident ever election cycle
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detbuch 05-20-2022 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227026)
The GOP and it’s supporters vilified Hispanics any chance they get..

This is ignorant, or stupid, or both . . . or one or all of these:

unintelligent · ignorant · dense · brainless · mindless · foolish · dull-witted · dull · slow-witted · witless · slow · dunce-like · simpleminded · empty-headed · vacuous · vapid · halfwitted · idiotic · moronic · imbecilic · imbecile · obtuse · doltish · gullible · naive · silly · scatterbrained · crackbrained · nonsensical · senseless · irresponsible · unthinking · ill-advised · ill-considered · inept · damfool · unwise · injudicious · indiscreet · short-sighted · inane · absurd · ludicrous · ridiculous · laughable · risible · fatuous · asinine · pointless · meaningless · futile · fruitless · mad · insane · lunatic

Got Stripers 05-20-2022 04:42 PM

I see this forum continues to be classy.

Jim in CT 05-20-2022 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227026)

The GOP and it’s supporters vilified Hispanics any chance they get..


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yet no examples provided.

can’t wait until
november.
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wdmso 05-20-2022 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227031)
yet no examples provided.

can’t wait until
november.
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If you need examples you truly don’t pay attention
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Pete F. 05-20-2022 06:58 PM

It’s wild to me that they're holding CPAC in Hungary, openly celebrating Orban's defeat of democracy, openly planning to do the same in the US ... it's just all out in the open now. And still the media can't seem to convey it clearly to the public.
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Jim in CT 05-20-2022 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227032)
If you need examples you truly don’t pay attention
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then why do polls
show what they show with hispanics?

hispanics who came
here legally, turns out, aren’t huge fans of wide open borders

it’s all coming unglued


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detbuch 05-20-2022 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227034)
And still the media can't seem to convey it clearly to the public.

They have the same problem that you have trying to convey clearly. It's hard to be clear when the narrative is misinformation based on half truths, lies, innuendos, and conjecture.

wdmso 05-21-2022 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227029)
This is ignorant, or stupid, or both . . . or one or all of these:

unintelligent · ignorant · dense · brainless · mindless · foolish · dull-witted · dull · slow-witted · witless · slow · dunce-like · simpleminded · empty-headed · vacuous · vapid · halfwitted · idiotic · moronic · imbecilic · imbecile · obtuse · doltish · gullible · naive · silly · scatterbrained · crackbrained · nonsensical · senseless · irresponsible · unthinking · ill-advised · ill-considered · inept · damfool · unwise · injudicious · indiscreet · short-sighted · inane · absurd · ludicrous · ridiculous · laughable · risible · fatuous · asinine · pointless · meaningless · futile · fruitless · mad · insane · lunatic


Keep thinking the GOP respects Hispanics :faga:

wdmso 05-21-2022 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227039)
They have the same problem that you have trying to convey clearly. It's hard to be clear when the narrative is misinformation based on half truths, lies, innuendos, and conjecture.

It's hard to be clear when the narrative is misinformation based on half truths, lies, innuendos, and conjecture

you have just described the GOP.... but you'll never admit it :faga:

wdmso 05-21-2022 06:06 AM

I read this and sums it out very well

Americans believe in certain tenets of the replacement theory, these messages of white victimhood and the idea that “America is not a racist country” aren’t going anywhere; we’re likely to hear these talking points from the GOP in 2022 and beyond.




JD Vance (and the GOP) are trying to give voters a sense of license to have these anxieties, discomforts and sometimes even prejudiced views,” said Justin Gest, a professor of policy and government at George Mason University. “Those are precisely the politics that he’s bristling at, and there are going to be voters who appreciate him giving them the license to believe what they
believe.”


Jd Vance Trump the list of the GOP and fox and conservative media hosts doing this is easily found and so are those who appreciate them for giving them the license to believe what they believe.”

truth and facts need not apply but Fear and the end to white dominance well that sells in GOP circles

Jim in CT 05-21-2022 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227048)
I read this and sums it out very well

Americans believe in certain tenets of the replacement theory, these messages of white victimhood and the idea that “America is not a racist country” aren’t going anywhere; we’re likely to hear these talking points from the GOP in 2022 and beyond.




JD Vance (and the GOP) are trying to give voters a sense of license to have these anxieties, discomforts and sometimes even prejudiced views,” said Justin Gest, a professor of policy and government at George Mason University. “Those are precisely the politics that he’s bristling at, and there are going to be voters who appreciate him giving them the license to believe what they
believe.”


Jd Vance Trump the list of the GOP and fox and conservative media hosts doing this is easily found and so are those who appreciate them for giving them the license to believe what they believe.”

truth and facts need not apply but Fear and the end to white dominance well that sells in GOP circles

Joe Biden is on video saying it’s “not a bad thing” that whites are becoming a smaller and smaller piece of the pie. He said this will make america better. There’s video of Biden saying this. So i’m not sure why you’d say it’s delusional that republicans believe in this.

(1) It’s in democrats clear interests for the nation to become less white. (2) Democrats also support open borders and amnesty and voting rights for illegals.

You’re telling me those two things aren’t connected? Of course they are. Democrats want to flood texas with more future democrat voters because if TX ever turns blue,,the gop cannot win a presidential election again.

Both sides obviously support measures that will help them win future elections.

This doesn’t make me a victim. It makes me someone who, unlike you, can see what’s happening right in front of my face.
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Jim in CT 05-21-2022 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227046)
Keep thinking the GOP respects Hispanics :faga:

again, what’s in the GOP agenda that’s anti hispanic?

Yes, you can find individual republicans who say bigoted things, as i can find individual democrats who say bigoted things.

You’re saying “the GOP” doesn’t respect Hispanics. Based on what?

If polling is anywhere near correct, it seems Hispanics may disagree with you about what’s best for them.
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Pete F. 05-21-2022 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227039)
They have the same problem that you have trying to convey clearly. It's hard to be clear when the narrative is misinformation based on half truths, lies, innuendos, and conjecture.

Always a good day to remind folks that Rick Scott invoked the fifth amendment 75 times when being deposed after committing the largest case of Medicare fraud in U.S. history and was fined $1.7 billion for it. Now he has proposed a plan to dismantle Social Security and Medicare.
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Pete F. 05-21-2022 08:16 AM

Latest NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist National Poll:
"47% of registered voters...say they will support the Democrat on the ballot in this year’s Congressional Midterm Elections. 42% think they will back the Republican."
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detbuch 05-21-2022 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227053)
Always a good day to remind folks that Rick Scott invoked the fifth amendment 75 times when being deposed after committing the largest case of Medicare fraud in U.S. history and was fined $1.7 billion for it. Now he has proposed a plan to dismantle Social Security and Medicare.
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Hope it's a good plan and it passes.

detbuch 05-21-2022 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227047)
It's hard to be clear when the narrative is misinformation based on half truths, lies, innuendos, and conjecture

you have just described the GOP.... but you'll never admit it :faga:

You've committed a conjecture.

Pete F. 05-21-2022 09:19 AM

Laura Ingraham Blames Build Back Better Agenda for Adding to National Debt – Even Though It Didn’t Pass

Because the cult doesn’t care if it’s right or true. It just has to sound good.
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detbuch 05-21-2022 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227064)
Laura Ingraham Blames Build Back Better Agenda for Adding to National Debt – Even Though It Didn’t Pass

Because the cult doesn’t care if it’s right or true. It just has to sound good.

She didn't refer to the Build Back Better bill. She labeled the administrations spending "stupid Build Back Better spending." That is, in her opinion, the administrations excessive spending has been Build Back Better type spending or a Build Back Better type agenda.

That may very well be true if you want to make the comparison. And it may very well be a "sound good" innuendo.

Pete F. 05-21-2022 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227069)
She didn't refer to the Build Back Better bill. She labeled the administrations spending "stupid Build Back Better spending." That is, in her opinion, the administrations excessive spending has been Build Back Better type spending or a Build Back Better type agenda.

That may very well be true if you want to make the comparison. And it may very well be a "sound good" innuendo.

Another only “didn’t really mean what they said”
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detbuch 05-21-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227071)
Another only “didn’t really mean what they said”
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She didn't say Build Back Better bill.

wdmso 05-21-2022 02:21 PM

Ohio Senate candidate J.D. Vance has leveled a bizarre new accusation against Joe Biden, suggesting that the president is trying to “kill” MAGA voters with fentanyl sold by drug traffickers.

Guess this is more hyperbole
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Pete F. 05-22-2022 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227078)
She didn't say Build Back Better bill.

Pretty simple,

She did say Build Back Better

Either you're on the side of Ingraham/Putin/ Orban, or you're on the side of America. It's not complicated at this point.
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detbuch 05-22-2022 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227098)
Pretty simple,

She did say Build Back Better

Either you're on the side of Ingraham/Putin/ Orban, or you're on the side of America. It's not complicated at this point.
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Yes, she did say Build Back Better. So did Biden and Obama and other Dems before there was a Build Back Better bill. It was an often repeated SLOGAN of the Biden campaign, before he was even President. It was an agenda, a framework of promises his campaign made and repeatedly referred to it as "Build Back Better." When he took office, he began implementing some of his "Build Back Better" policies such as reversing some of Trump's tax cuts and spending on Progressive agenda's that helped fuel inflation. None of this had to do with Ingraham/Putin/Orban. It was all Biden and the Dems.

And it was part of his promised Build Back Better agenda--it was that "Build Back Better" spending Ingraham referred to, not the Build Back Better bill.

As you say, it's not complicated. No matter how much you hate Putin, and Orban, and try to attach Trump and now even the Republican Party to them.

It's not complicated. When you post a verbatim opinion from a leftist source and not attribute it nor use quotation marks, such as " Laura Ingraham Blames Build Back Better Agenda for Adding to National Debt – Even Though It Didn’t Pass", you often latch on to it without critical thinking and get exposed.

Pete F. 05-23-2022 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227115)
Yes, she did say Build Back Better. So did Biden and Obama and other Dems before there was a Build Back Better bill. It was an often repeated SLOGAN of the Biden campaign, before he was even President. It was an agenda, a framework of promises his campaign made and repeatedly referred to it as "Build Back Better." When he took office, he began implementing some of his "Build Back Better" policies such as reversing some of Trump's tax cuts and spending on Progressive agenda's that helped fuel inflation. None of this had to do with Ingraham/Putin/Orban. It was all Biden and the Dems.

And it was part of his promised Build Back Better agenda--it was that "Build Back Better" spending Ingraham referred to, not the Build Back Better bill.

As you say, it's not complicated. No matter how much you hate Putin, and Orban, and try to attach Trump and now even the Republican Party to them.

It's not complicated. When you post a verbatim opinion from a leftist source and not attribute it nor use quotation marks, such as " Laura Ingraham Blames Build Back Better Agenda for Adding to National Debt – Even Though It Didn’t Pass", you often latch on to it without critical thinking and get exposed.

Want to reduce inflation
Remove Trump tariffs
TFG trade agreements and actions are the root of many current issues

Trump's USMCA imposed high import tariffs (exceeding 15%) on baby formula imports, which consolidated the American market and severed international supply chains. Trump also gutted FDA and CBP, so simply relaxing tariffs would create a bottleneck at ports of entry.

As far as attaching to Orban and Putin, the Republican Party has done that all by themselves

Nothing says “America First” like CPAC meeting in Hungary.
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detbuch 05-23-2022 10:35 AM

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Want to reduce inflation
Remove Trump tariffs
TFG trade agreements and actions are the root of many current issues

Trump's USMCA imposed high import tariffs (exceeding 15%) on baby formula imports, which consolidated the American market and severed international supply chains. Trump also gutted FDA and CBP, so simply relaxing tariffs would create a bottleneck at ports of entry.

So I pointed out that Build Back Better was a campaign slogan and its promised policies are, were, under the rubric of that slogan, and that Biden's spending to which Ingraham alluded to as Build Back Better spending was accurately portrayed by her as such, and need not be characterized as her referring to the "bill" which has not been passed. No rebuttal?

As far as attaching to Orban and Putin, the Republican Party has done that all by themselves

To "attach" connotes loss of will and an exclusive adherence to something or someone. Having multiple relations denies an "attachment" to one. The Republcan Party is not "attached" to Putin and Orban. It is "attached" to those who elect it.

Nothing says “America First” like CPAC meeting in Hungary.
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The conference hosts attendees and speakers from Europe, Australia, South Korea, Japan, and the U.S. Does that mean that the Republican Party is "attached" to Europe, Australia, South Korea, Japan, and the U.S.?

There is a common attachment to various "conservative" anti-Progressive values and policies that attendees have. Orban framed them in "country first" to which he included "America first" as example. Of course, they will be characterized as fascist, racist, far right, blah, blah, blah.

But there is a burgeoning global divide between "conservatism" and Progressivism. It is being politically fought in individual countries. The fight is being won, worldwide, by leftists, including Progressives, by taking control of the basic institutions of modern society--the Press, education, culture, even religion, especially the language. And the goal certainly appears to create a progressive, authoritarian global governance. "Conservatives" are, very late in coming to the game, realizing that they need more of a global reach and cooperation rather than being isolated within their own borders--in order to secure their borders and values. And they need to take back the influence over or "control" of the basic institutions that the left has taken

Unfortunately, it is sometimes true that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Pete F. 05-23-2022 10:55 AM

The Republican Party as usual is projecting while planning to throw out legally cast votes they disagree with, claiming that white replacement theory is now ok, now called great and necessary because they’re taking over so we have to for your own good.
Orban was a keynote speaker on how to control the media and the electorate.
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detbuch 05-23-2022 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227130)
The Republican Party as usual is projecting while planning to throw out legally cast votes they disagree with, claiming that white replacement theory is now ok, now called great and necessary because they’re taking over so we have to for your own good.

This is pretty much propagandistic bull$hit.

Orban was a keynote speaker on how to control the media and the electorate.
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How did he say the media and electorate were to be controlled? He did say that more shows like Tucker Carlsons were needed. And that conservatives needed their own media. As the left has their own media in mainstream legacy media, such as NY Times, CNN, etc. Gee, that sounds so fascistic to emulate what the Progressive left has done.

This would be a good time to say something that Orban said at the conference that doesn't fit the picture of some nefarious "attachment" to Putin. In the Ukraine war, he said that Russia is the aggressor, Ukraine is the victim. We condemn the aggressor and help the victim (Hungry has taken in nearly 600,000 Ukrainian war refugees). But this is just not Hungary's war to fight.

That's just, you know, a little balance to your propagandistically one sided selections.

Here is some further exploration of Orban's views other than those propagated by far left rags like "The Guardian":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s01ZL5TnBNY

Pete F. 05-23-2022 07:48 PM

Better watch it, those Jewish space lasers will get you
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detbuch 05-23-2022 11:13 PM

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Better watch it, those Jewish space lasers will get you
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That's racist.

Pete F. 05-24-2022 07:28 AM

Americans reported the highest level of financial well-being last fall than at any point in almost a decade,
Remember, Biden’s approval rating has mechanically fallen because of the terrible economy and definitely not because the media keeps telling everyone the economy is bad
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detbuch 05-24-2022 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227164)
Americans reported the highest level of financial well-being last fall than at any point in almost a decade,

Wow, last fall . . .

Remember, Biden’s approval rating has mechanically fallen because of the terrible economy and definitely not because the media keeps telling everyone the economy is bad

Pete seems to imply or insinuate that the media is fake news.

Pete F. 05-25-2022 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227170)
Pete seems to imply or insinuate that the media is fake news.

Remember that the same people telling us not to politicize the shooting this week, politicized the baby formula shortage last week.
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