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Jim in CT 07-06-2022 08:30 PM

poll: 88% say US on wrong track.
 
You don’t get to 88% just by turning off republicans.

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ck-survey/amp/

wdmso 07-07-2022 07:37 AM

You still think this poll is about political party it’s INFLATION, GAS PRICES TOP FAMILY CONCERNS

majority of 57% say that the actions of the federal government over the past six months have hurt their family

But not one of that 57% could name a policy or action the federal government took or didn’t take .. they think the government controls prices of gas and food , America’s are spoiled and need instant fixes while having short historical memories .

What bills have either party passed since this inflation started ? NONE
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Jim in CT 07-07-2022 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1229082)
You still think this poll is about political party it’s INFLATION, GAS PRICES TOP FAMILY CONCERNS

majority of 57% say that the actions of the federal government over the past six months have hurt their family

But not one of that 57% could name a policy or action the federal government took or didn’t take .. they think the government controls prices of gas and food , America’s are spoiled and need instant fixes while having short historical memories .

What bills have either party passed since this inflation started ? NONE
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oh i know what it’s about. And i know which party controls the entire federal government at the moment.

how do you know that not one person can name a single thing Biden did that caused harm? Please tell me what you’re basing that lunacy on?

People know Biden said he was going to end fossil fuels, people
know he pumped trillions into the economy in the middle of a supply crunch ( all but guaranteeing inflation), people
know he said inflation was transitory, people
know he’s lying through his dentures when he says Putin caused it all, people know that democrats demonize police and victimize criminals, people know the liberals want a catastrophic open border ( unless 51% of hispanics somehow vote red, in which case the democrats will change their tune quickly on illegal immigration).

People were clearly willing to put up with all that in order to flush Trump down the toilet. Unfortunately for democrats, despite the January 6 hearings, Trump isn’t on the ballot in november. It’s going to be a referendum on how life has changed since we gave the democrats the keys to our federal government. It’s been one complete disaster after another since the Afghanistan exit.

On top of al that, the economy is acting very sick. we could be in a serious recession in november, which would almost be an extinction event for the left in congress, at least in the house.

The overturning of Roe will help a little. Likely not a big help.
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Pete F. 07-07-2022 01:50 PM

Let’s see
Border Crisis
Texans cross the southern border in droves for basic healthcare needs. THAT is the emergency at the border.

It’s not Brazilian butt-lifts, it’s basic healthcare…dental, vision, internists, and pharmacy.

“Americans forced to seek healthcare in foreign country” is the headline.

And there's another southern border emergency - women who are seeking abortions are heading to Mexico, too.

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Jim in CT 07-07-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229103)
Let’s see
Border Crisis
Texans cross the southern border in droves for basic healthcare needs. THAT is the emergency at the border.

It’s not Brazilian butt-lifts, it’s basic healthcare…dental, vision, internists, and pharmacy.

“Americans forced to seek healthcare in foreign country” is the headline.

And there's another southern border emergency - women who are seeking abortions are heading to Mexico, too.

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you keep telling yourself that there’s nothing to see at the border.
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Jim in CT 07-07-2022 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229103)

“Americans forced to seek healthcare in foreign country” is the headline.

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it’s “your” headline. not “the” headline.
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Pete F. 07-07-2022 08:12 PM

Sure, tell us about the oncoming caravan
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Jim in CT 07-07-2022 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229114)
Sure, tell us about the oncoming caravan
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i didn’t say that was the headline, i’ve never once mentioned it.

How about record drug deaths and fentanyl overdoses? is that a rounding error
to you?
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229116)
i didn’t say that was the headline, i’ve never once mentioned it.

How about record drug deaths and fentanyl overdoses? is that a rounding error
to you?
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Floriduh has a terrible problem with that, you’d think DeathSantis would do something
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229119)
Floriduh has a terrible problem with that, you’d think DeathSantis would do something
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so does all of new england. you forgot to mention that.

In a few months, you’re going to find out which one of us has a better clue about what america is thinking.

https://www.cdc.gov/drugoverdose/deaths/2020.html
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 05:38 AM

Today, California Governor Newsom announced an investment in state-manufactured insulin to be sold almost at cost. Meanwhile, Republicans are using their state funds to investigate critical race theory. Priorities on full display.
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 05:41 AM

How do you know gas prices have been falling for 3 weeks straight and #^&#^&#^&#^&’s about to hit the fan for Trump and Republicans?

They’re talking about private citizen Hunter Biden again

Like clockwork
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 06:06 AM

The GOP is ditching general election appeal to independent voters in favor of hard-line appeals to their conservative base.

Birth control, gay marriage, Public Education, Social Security, Medicare are all on the chopping block
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229121)
Today, California Governor Newsom announced an investment in state-manufactured insulin to be sold almost at cost. Meanwhile, Republicans are using their state funds to investigate critical race theory. Priorities on full display.
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meanwhile he travels in luxury, violating lockdowns he demands the little people adhere to. He’s not electable outside of a super progressive place.

But it sounds like a good idea.
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229121)
Today, California Governor Newsom announced an investment in state-manufactured insulin to be sold almost at cost. Meanwhile, Republicans are using their state funds to investigate critical race theory. Priorities on full display.
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how many people moved from CA to TX or FL today?
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229122)
How do you know gas prices have been falling for 3 weeks straight and #^&#^&#^&#^&’s about to hit the fan for Trump and Republicans?

They’re talking about private citizen Hunter Biden again

Like clockwork
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you don’t get it. It’s GOOD for the GOP if trump gets in trouble and can’t run again. The democrats have shown they can beat Trump ( before we knew how incompetent and senile biden is). The GOP will have a better chance in 2024 without Trump. Going after Trump, helps the GOP, it doesn’t hurt the GOP. It clears the way for Desantis.
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229124)
The GOP is ditching general election appeal to independent voters in favor of hard-line appeals to their conservative base.

Birth control, gay marriage, Public Education, Social Security, Medicare are all on the chopping block
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what’s the gop doing with birth control and gay marriage? I must’ve missed that.

Don’t forget seeing eye dogs, i heard the gop wants to harvest and eat all the seeing eye dogs in the country.

You’re a lunatic.
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229128)
what’s the gop doing with birth control and gay marriage? I must’ve missed that.

Don’t forget seeing eye dogs, i heard the gop wants to harvest and eat all the seeing eye dogs in the country.

You’re a lunatic.
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You’re a blind follower

Remember Roe v Wade was in no danger

Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare—what worries me is Republicans are now coming to take away birth control, too.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said he is willing to help Texas overturn gay marriage and uphold sodomy laws at the Supreme Court based on Clarence Thomas’ concurrence.

BOTH FLORIDA U.S. SENATORS Rick Scott & Marco Rubio have gone on record saying they want to cut Social Security.

FLORIDA's Governor DeSantis vetoed $2 million meant to help low-income people access long-acting birth control—which had been sent to his desk with bipartisan support.

Mississippi Governor Reeves would not say whether he would sign legislation banning birth control.

Clarence Thomas’s concurrence in Dobbs explicitly called for reconsidering a host of other legal protections, from birth control (Griswold), same-sex sexual relations (Lawrence), and same-sex marriage (Obergefell). Marginalized communities will be targeted. It will not stop here.
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229130)
You’re a blind follower

Remember Roe v Wade was in no danger

Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare—what worries me is Republicans are now coming to take away birth control, too.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said he is willing to help Texas overturn gay marriage and uphold sodomy laws at the Supreme Court based on Clarence Thomas’ concurrence.

BOTH FLORIDA U.S. SENATORS Rick Scott & Marco Rubio have gone on record saying they want to cut Social Security.

FLORIDA's Governor DeSantis vetoed $2 million meant to help low-income people access long-acting birth control—which had been sent to his desk with bipartisan support.

Mississippi Governor Reeves would not say whether he would sign legislation banning birth control.

Clarence Thomas’s concurrence in Dobbs explicitly called for reconsidering a host of other legal protections, from birth control (Griswold), same-sex sexual relations (Lawrence), and same-sex marriage (Obergefell). Marginalized communities will be targeted. It will not stop here.
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you’re not a blind follower, but I am? Keep telling yourself
that

Yes, i said many times I’d never live to see Roe overturned. I was speculating, as we all do, and i got that vine spectacularly wrong, as we all sometimes so ( not you though, your predictions are 100% accurate.)

What are you expecting in november? That the democrats gain house seats?

Why should abortion be rare? That’s stupid. The only way to justify abortion is to believe that the unborn is an ina image object, in which case abortion is no more of a moral dilemma than removing a mole. A million times a year isn’t rare.


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Pete F. 07-08-2022 07:52 AM

Economy added 372k jobs in June, beating consensus. The labor market is not even remotely suggesting recession.
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229130)
You’re a blind follower

Remember Roe v Wade was in no danger

Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare—what worries me is Republicans are now coming to take away birth control, too.

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton said he is willing to help Texas overturn gay marriage and uphold sodomy laws at the Supreme Court based on Clarence Thomas’ concurrence.

BOTH FLORIDA U.S. SENATORS Rick Scott & Marco Rubio have gone on record saying they want to cut Social Security.

FLORIDA's Governor DeSantis vetoed $2 million meant to help low-income people access long-acting birth control—which had been sent to his desk with bipartisan support.

Mississippi Governor Reeves would not say whether he would sign legislation banning birth control.

Clarence Thomas’s concurrence in Dobbs explicitly called for reconsidering a host of other legal protections, from birth control (Griswold), same-sex sexual relations (Lawrence), and same-sex marriage (Obergefell). Marginalized communities will be targeted. It will not stop here.
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oh i see. so if desantis is opposed to using public money for birth control, that means he’s opposed to birth control.
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 07:56 AM

Pete, if i’m responsible for every stupid thing that any republican says, are yiunsikilarlybresponsiblemfor every outlandish thing a democrat says? Are you liable for everything that Ihan Omar and Rashida Talib say? Lori Lightfoot said f—- Clarence Thomas, are you responsible for that?

I can go tit for tat with you all day. So let’s not waste time on that stupidity, and talk about results of policies. But there’s a reason why you don’t want that conversation.
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 08:06 AM

Let’s see how many Trumplicans in power or not said “Let’s go Brandon”?

Meanwhile Leading historical societies conclude that the “misrepresentations” in Dobbs “are now enshrined in a text that becomes authoritative for legal reference and citation in the future.” But scholars and lawyers should agree never to cite this fake “history.”
https://www.historians.org/Documents...ment_final.pdf
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 08:07 AM

here ya go Pete, governors approval ratings ( not sure when this was done.)

Desantis approval is 58%, Newsom is 42%.

Keep in mind, that CA is a much bluer state than FL is red. Not even close.

Explain that, please. Why is Desantis doing better in a purple state than Newsom is in a deep blue state?

Have fun with that.

https://morningconsult.com/governor-rankings/
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 08:10 AM

New NavigatorSurvey polling finds a 24 pt drop in GOP favorability with independents, and 10 pts overall.

This is a very significant shift in a short period of time, and more confirming data that the natl landscape is becoming far better for Dems.
72% of Democrats more likely to vote now. Big number! Other polls now have Dem vote intensity higher than Rs.

This is not a typical midterm. The anti-MAGA majority which voted in record numbers in the last two elections is getting ready to do it again this time.
Lots of data now showing a new, bluer 2022 election.

In 9 polls of the Congressional Generic since Row Dems hold a 1.7 pt lead, a shift of 4-5 pts for Ds. It's a big deal.

63% support a national law to protect a women's right to an abortion. It's +30 with indies. This is another big number.
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229137)
here ya go Pete, governors approval ratings ( not sure when this was done.)

Desantis approval is 58%, Newsom is 42%.

Keep in mind, that CA is a much bluer state than FL is red. Not even close.

Explain that, please. Why is Desantis doing better in a purple state than Newsom is in a deep blue state?

Have fun with that.

https://morningconsult.com/governor-rankings/
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OK

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is down by 13 points to Democrat Charlie Crist in the 2022 election in new poll
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229138)
New NavigatorSurvey polling finds a 24 pt drop in GOP favorability with independents, and 10 pts overall.

This is a very significant shift in a short period of time, and more confirming data that the natl landscape is becoming far better for Dems.
72% of Democrats more likely to vote now. Big number! Other polls now have Dem vote intensity higher than Rs.

This is not a typical midterm. The anti-MAGA majority which voted in record numbers in the last two elections is getting ready to do it again this time.
Lots of data now showing a new, bluer 2022 election.

In 9 polls of the Congressional Generic since Row Dems hold a 1.7 pt lead, a shift of 4-5 pts for Ds. It's a big deal.

63% support a national law to protect a women's right to an abortion. It's +30 with indies. This is another big number.
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on abortion, you keep talking about what people want. And i agree they want it. But do you understand that SCOTUS isn’t supposed to care about what people want? It’s suooosed to be based in the constitition, not on public opinion polls.

Take a 6th grade civics class.

The day will come when the GoP has the white house and congress again. When that day comes, do you want them to be able to do everything they want to do? Or do you want them to be limited by what the constitution says they can do?
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229139)
OK

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is down by 13 points to Democrat Charlie Crist in the 2022 election in new poll
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do you EVER respond to the question asked?

Crust is very popular in FL, and FL is a purple state. Crist could definitely win. Which would presumably be the end for Desantis.
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229136)

Leading historical societies conclude that the “misrepresentations” in Dobbs “are now enshrined in a text that becomes authoritative for legal reference and citation in the future.” But scholars and lawyers should agree never to cite this fake “history.”
https://www.historians.org/Documents...ment_final.pdf
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Well, I think the radical SCOTUS shouldn’t just invent history to justify overturning a long-standing decision.
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Nebe 07-08-2022 08:51 AM

The 88% of people who think we are off track are probably the 88% of people in blue states who thanks to the electoral college and gerrymandering are voting independent and democrat. If we were to remove that bull#^&#^&#^&#^&, our elections would be wildly different.

Jim in CT 07-08-2022 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1229143)
The 88% of people who think we are off track are probably the 88% of people in blue states who thanks to the electoral college and gerrymandering are voting independent and democrat. If we were to remove that bull#^&#^&#^&#^&, our elections would be wildly different.

yeah i’m sure that’s what their beef is. Lord knows there’s nothing else to disagree with. You see any polling to suggest that’s what people are stressed about right now?

the presidential elections would be different for sure.

If enough people want to change it, fortunately for them there’s a mechanism to change the constitution.
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 09:16 AM

Pete, Charlie Crist is my very, very favorite kind of politician (sarcasm).

He was a republican governor of FL.

He ran for the US Senate as a republican, was defeated in the primary by Marco Rubio. Team player that Crist is, he then ran for Senate as an independent, Rubio still miraculously won.

So Crist changed parties, ran for governor again as a democrat, was defeated by Rick Scott.

So he found a blue house district, ran there for House Of Reps, and finally won something.

Crist is an absolute, shape-shifting, unprincipled reptile. His only principle is his conviction that he must have control over the people of FL.

Doesn't mean he can't win, but he's a lizard.

Pete F. 07-08-2022 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229145)
Pete, Charlie Crist is my very, very favorite kind of politician (sarcasm).

He was a republican governor of FL.

He ran for the US Senate as a republican, was defeated in the primary by Marco Rubio. Team player that Crist is, he then ran for Senate as an independent, Rubio still miraculously won.

So Crist changed parties, ran for governor again as a democrat, was defeated by Rick Scott.

So he found a blue house district, ran there for House Of Reps, and finally won something.

Crist is an absolute, shape-shifting, unprincipled reptile. His only principle is his conviction that he must have control over the people of FL.

Doesn't mean he can't win, but he's a lizard.

Lots of thinking people have become Democrats as the Republican Party has shifted far right
If you’re looking for shapeshifters you need to look no farther than the leading members of the Trumplican Party, including Liddle Marco.
They will do anything for power.


https://youtu.be/6FXuXqzUO9E
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229146)
Lots of thinking people have become Democrats as the Republican Party has shifted far right
If you’re looking for shapeshifters you need to look no farther than the leading members of the Trumplican Party, including Liddle Marco.
They will do anything for power.


https://youtu.be/6FXuXqzUO9E
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many more people have become republican!

it must be exhausting to have to deny everything that doesn’t serve your agenda.

https://amp.wbur.org/news/2022/06/27...olitical-shift
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 10:06 AM

Maybe the Dems should do voter registration at gas stations as prices come down, they have lots of stickers on pumps saying Biden did this…..

People won’t forget what the radical SCOTUS has done, and what the Trumplican Party did to try and remain in power.

Isn’t Patsy Baloney testifying today?
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 10:35 AM

President Biden responded to the great jobs report: "We have more Americans working in the private sector today than any day during Donald Trump’s Presidency – more people than any time in our history."

Haha. Jim and his sometimes hero Donald Trump are not going to like this.
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Pete F. 07-08-2022 10:51 AM

Will Jim cheer?

Far more new jobs created than expected. Unemployment is 3.6%-down from 6.7% in Trump's last month. Black unemployment now 5.8%--down from 10% in Trump's last month. Hispanic unemployment now 4.3% down from 9.3%.
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scottw 07-08-2022 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229152)
Will Jim cheer?

Far more new jobs created than expected. Unemployment is 3.6%-down from 6.7% in Trump's last month. Black unemployment now 5.8%--down from 10% in Trump's last month. Hispanic unemployment now 4.3% down from 9.3%.
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weren't we still in a pandemic and partially shut down trump's last month in office?

Pete F. 07-08-2022 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229150)
President Biden responded to the great jobs report: "We have more Americans working in the private sector today than any day during Donald Trump’s Presidency – more people than any time in our history."

Haha. Jim and his sometimes hero Donald Trump are not going to like this.
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Currently as good as Tweety’s best month and more working outside the government, less in than ever, so much for the Dems being the party of big government, never mind who wants freedom

-Except women making their own reproductive decisions.
-Except for teaching certain parts of American history in school.
-Except for kids being allowed certain books in school.
-Except for people who want to feel safe.
-Except for civil rights for all.
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229152)
Will Jim cheer?

Far more new jobs created than expected. Unemployment is 3.6%-down from 6.7% in Trump's last month. Black unemployment now 5.8%--down from 10% in Trump's last month. Hispanic unemployment now 4.3% down from 9.3%.
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Yes I will cheer. But most of it is because of the economy opening up after covid.

Unemployment was 3.5% - better than 3.6% - in January and February of 2020, until we shut the economy down.

I have said that whoever won the election in 2020 was going to be dealing with gas price hikes and inflation no matter what they did. It' snot all Bidens fault.

By the same token, whoever was elected in 2020 was going to see unemployment drop like a stone as the economy opened back up.

To the extent that gas price increases are caused by covid waning, that's not Bidens fault. To the extent that unemployment decrease is caused by covid waning, that's similarly Biden's doing.

You want it both ways. You want credit for everything that gets better, and zero blame for everything that gets worse. Biden didn't create these jobs, as much as they were recovered from shutting down the country. Him saying that he created these jobs, is the rooster taking credit for the sunrise. He was just there when it happened, he didn't cause it to happen.

Trump got black unemployment down to 5.4% - better than 5.8%.

Pete, you're comparing Bidens post-covid unemployment to what unemployment was when Trump was still dealing with covid.

NO ONE buys that. Nobody. Give it a rest.

Not only were more of us working under Trump, our paychecks were worth $400 more a month for an average family, thanks to inflation.

Oh, you so so deserve what's coming.


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