Climate change: Alps glaciers melting faster as heatwaves hit
 

Melting glaciers in the Alps are on track for their highest mass losses in at least 60 years, according to data



https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-62466095


Climate Deniers in the 117th Congress
There are 139 elected officials in the 117th Congress who still deny the scientific consensus of human-caused climate change.

take a guess Who :faga:

Of all of our political divides, the fact that one party votes unanimously to address the climate crisis and one votes unanimously to do nothing might be the most jaw dropping for future generations (as it is to many who are here right now).
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just cancelled my skiing plans...

Well it’s signed and I loved how Biden trashed the party who denies climate change is even real, the party that passes legislation for the upper crust, time for Fox and friends (Jim and Scott) to spin away.

I thought of you when I heard this climate activist story :jester:


French activists fill golf holes with cement to protest watering exemptions during drought
By Reuters
August 14, 2022

Well I don’t own a golf course, but if you want to become an activist instead a snarky one liner, go start a movement. Let me spin this attempt in another direction. My course and every other likely pays for water and the public playing are getting exercise and are healthier for it. Now let’s look at some other sports and obscene salaries, fueled by what, oh yeah corporate greed. Put half of that money to fuel technology to move water around this country. Every year the same parts have historic flooding, while other parts of the country suffer historic droughts and fires.

that's the response I expected....nice goin" D+

If Scott grades you D+, we all know it’s probably the opposite, or he just can’t consider in a country with so little water in so many places and so much yearly in others it could be time to put our engineering degrees to good work. Americans might prefer that instead of exploring space or spending obscene money to pay overpaid spoiled professional athletes.

probably:D

Germany's five alpine glaciers could disappear within 50 years, according to glaciologist Christoph Mayer.

The high temperatures and low rainfall this year have made it hard for the glaciers to stay frozen.

I wont be around so maybe I should just just :grins:

hope you put your order in for your electric vehicle, solar panels and windmill:call:

Surely this will help.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/22/steven...in-two-months/

Spoken like a true sheep

Bill Gates pledged to transfer an additional $20 billion of his personal wealth to his philanthropic foundation, in an effort to support causes such as reducing child deaths, managing climate change and preventing future pandemics.
The funds mean the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, named after the billionaire and his ex-wife, will disburse $9 billion annually by 2026, up from about $6 billion today.
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can sheep be in cults?

Walker, criticizing climate law, asks: ‘Don’t we have enough trees around here?’

Georgia Republican Senate nominee Herschel Walker is criticizing the sweeping climate, health-care and deficit-reduction bill signed into law by President Biden, arguing that it includes wasteful spending to combat global warming and asking, “Don’t we have enough trees around here?”

Are you and Jim his climate advisers ?
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probably doesn't matter because AOC said they'll all be dead in a few years anyway.....

ThE HILL Ocasio-Cortez: ‘World will end in 12 years’ if climate change not addressed
BY JOHN BOWDEN - 01/22/19

so what?

look at our climate czar. WhTs his carbon footprint? If he believes what he claims to believe, wouldn’t he be living the way he tells us to live? He obviously doesn’t believe what he says he believes.

Sheep? I’m a sheep? i’ve got both sides of my roof covered in solar panels and i have a Nissan Leaf that i use whenever i’m driving short distances by myself. What do you got?


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they've got fossil fuel powered cars, trucks, boats and power tools and homes but they are deeply concerned that others are destroying our environment :heybaby:

So what . classic response

Just pointing the usual cherry picking from conservatives. Who ignore the billions spent on making the world a better place . But omg he spent x on fuel and he’s a liberal who hates climate change

That’s the sheep you run with

sheep? i’ve got both sides of my roof covered in solar panels and i have a Nissan Leaf that i use whenever i’m driving short distances by myself.

Or the only reason you even respond is so you can think your owing the libs…

Because outside you and Scott’s virtue signaling . Actually talking about the issue is replaced with the usual wash rinse and repeat .one liners

Ps I own no solar panels nor own an electric car . But I do own an electric toaster. My electric bill is I would guess is less then your monthly lease payment or monthly bill if you own them outright . And my gas KiA and Truck get little usage seeing I am retired.. so in a nutshell I am spending less on gas and electric to make either choice financial beneficial. But still have a well insulated home windows and energy star appliances lights and heating and get my electric from renewable sources via my power company

But hey if you think the only way to show you’re serious about the environment is solar panels and electric cars .. your missing the big picture
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it’s “cherry picking” to point out that the founder of this movement ( Al Gore) and the current climate change czar ( John Kerry) as well as many prominent spokespeople
like Spielberg and Dicaprio, clearly don’t believe what they claim to believe? there’s no validity in pointing that out?

Sorry wdmso, if the president of PETA is eating burgers at 5 Guys every night wearing a mink coat, , then there’s no reason to listen to what they have to say on the subject.
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Yep it’s cherry picking Jim a well honed skill of those who can’t see the forest Tru the Trees ..

Spielberg and Dicaprio, clearly don’t believe what they claim to believe? there’s no validity in pointing that out?

To bad you can’t apply the same logic to those you follow . Then maybe you could have some validity to point that out

Fyi. DiCaprio has worked to bring attention and funding to the protection of biodiversity, ocean and forest conservation, and climate change. The Leonardo DiCaprio Foundation supports over 35 innovative conservation projects around the world that protect fragile ecosystems and key species.

You have a leaf and solar panels..

But but Leonardo is the hypocrite
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good start...great job!!! :rotflmao:

Jim there’s a name for what you do

hypocrisy discourse.

Conservatives who reject climate change action tend to use two “modes” of hypocrisy discourse. The first is an “individual lifestyle outrage” mode that cultivates outrage about the hypocritical behavior and lifestyle choices of climate activists to undermine the urgency and moral need for climate change action. The second, an “institutional cynicism” mode, encourages a cynical fatalism about any proposed governmental action regarding climate change by suggesting that governments are necessarily climate hypocrites because of the economic and political impossibility of serious emissions reductions. In contrast,
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it's always fun when it "Wayne's new word day"

i don’t reject climate change action. i spend more time on the water and deep in the woods than most, i want healthy and clean ecosystems and have a deep love of wild animals.

What i don’t want, is a lecture from anyone who voluntarily chooses to live in such wealth and extravagance that he has the carbon footprint of a small country.

Lead by example, or shut the hell up. The only thing Al Gore has unplugged in the last 25 years is his treadmill. I’m not interested in what he has to say. But you suck it up like a Hoover deluxe because he has a (D) after his name..
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Did you even read it. Because you applied it perfectly

The first is an “individual lifestyle outrage” mode that cultivates outrage about the hypocritical behavior and lifestyle choices of climate activists


Can you name. Conservatives climate activist?
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This must be Jim’s source of his outrage

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...l-tell-no-show


Fortunately, you can ignore the performative virtue-signaling of these preening narcissists — both the politicians and the celebrities. The solutions to carbon emissions are already with us. If the planet is really in peril, then it's worth keeping all those dams and nuclear reactors in operation, and building new ones besides. Even a carbon-spewing electric Hummer becomes green if it's powered by good old nuclear. And fusion reactors are on the horizon, too.

Nuclear wow how original
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conservatives want a healthy environment. we aren’t going to be told to take the bus, by people
who fly private jets. sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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conservatives want a healthy environment. we aren’t going to be told to take the bus, by people
who fly private jets. sorry if that’s going too fast for you.

wayne, if we all get electric cars, where does all that additional
needed electricity come from? do you think wind and solar can generate it?
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You think like some people in Texas after getting 10 inch’s of rain in 24hrs they think their drought is over

You apply the same logic to Climate

You’re waiting for that one big Idea to happen and fix everything

You do understand if only electric cars and trucks were on the roads

Electric generation won’t be just wind and solar . Not sure why you keep thinking that’s how it will work

We have an old infrastructure and change is slow . And it’s even slower when one party wants to protect oil and gas . Then they care to protect future Americans.


There’s a reason why you can take a train any where in Europe quickly
Or use reliable public transportation

as for extra generation ask the private power companies who shuttered 2 in my town they refused to convert them to Gas or there wasn’t enough gas infrastructure

They removed more power from the grid in a day then I’d wager all the electric cars in the Us
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here is an article regarding the shuttering of your plant...Conservation Law Foundation and it's Allies take credit for the closing....it mentions what will they believe replace coal...."wind and solar and efficiency"...what are the others you speak of? https://www.clf.org/blog/brayton-poi...nt-shuts-down/
they are apparently not a fan of natural gas and is looks like worldwide we have only about 50 years of supply at current consumption levels anyway so that's not a long term solution and not a renewable

I read that about 1/3rd of 1% of the cars on the road currently are electric....

google..."electricity shortage"

Poor troll, 100 years ago electrical power was nonexistent outside of towns, in the following 30 years almost all Americans had electricity.
Google….”change”
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who says i’m waiting for one big
idea fix everything?

you make tons of assumptions. very few are accurate or correct.
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Wow They took credit.. yep trying to reduce a know pollution producer who built and spent millions on cooling towers because the destruction of the Bay

But truth is

In 2014, Dominion sold Brayton Point to the private equity firm Energy Capital Partners. The company, based in New Jersey but incorporated in the Cayman Islands, bought the plant and two others for less than half the price Dominion paid for the environmental improvements.

And then, just six weeks after the deal closed


Energy Capital Partners deliberately manipulated the wholesale market for electricity, single-handedly turning the region's energy supply from a surplus to a deficit.

"Their whole plan was to buy Brayton Point so that they could prematurely close it in order to create an artificial shortage to drive prices up," he explained. "Prices went up by more than a billion dollars — a huge price increase — all to be paid for by New England ratepayers. It's exactly what Enron did."


But please keep blaming environmentalists
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believe me, I understand that additional electricity won’t come from just wind and solar. That's precisely why I asked you where it would come from, and you wouldn’t. answer. how come? if you have no idea, and clearly you don’t, why are you advocating for switching to more electricity?

I’m convinced that many liberals thing that batteries generate their own electricity.

Are we all supposed to walk around rubbing balloons on our heads all day? the left is opposed to coal, adamantly opposed to nuclear ( by far the most realistic and least environmentally intrusive option), maybe hugs and unicorns will power all those electric cars that are coming.

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classic.....

CALIFORNIA (WTVO)California asks residents not to charge electric vehicles, days after announcing gas car ban
by: John Clark
Posted: Aug 31, 2022

Well, horse and buggy is green
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But of course you left out the reason why. Imagine that .Such honesty

So you think this event isn’t related to climate change or any of the droughts or record breaking rains are just incidental



The actual alert

Wednesday, Aug. 31 – 11 a.m.
The California ISO has issued a Flex Alert for today, Aug. 31 from 4-9 p.m., due to high heat across the state and supply uncertainties. View the news release here.
More Flex Alerts are likely through the holiday weekend, as excessive heat is forecast to blanket most of California, and supplies are expected to be tight in the afternoon and evening, when solar production rolls off and demand remains high.
The ISO also issued an Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Watch, effective 5 to 8 p.m. today, to access additional resources and prepare market participants and the public for potential energy shortages and the need to conserve. View our Emergency Notifications fact sheet for more information.
Consumer conservation will be critical to stabilizing the grid and maintaining electricity flow today.
• A Flex Alert is in effect today, from 4-9 p.m.
• We are experiencing some of the highest load levels of the year.
• We are monitoring weather conditions in neighboring areas, which impacts our ability to
import power from other grids.
• Overnight temperatures are staying high, which makes buildings and infrastructure
retain heat and can cause people to run air conditioners more.
• During multiple days of heat, generators that have been running at top speed can fail or
trip offline unexpectedly.
• We also have to expect the unexpected, meaning we need to be prepared for any
unplanned event that could tighten energy supplies.
• We called a Flex Alert to ask consumers to reduce electricity use from 4-9 p.m. today.
• That is the most critical time on the grid, because solar production is going offline, but
temperatures remain high.
The most important actions we’re encouraging consumers to take are:
 Pre-cool your homes before 4 p.m. and then set the thermostat to 78 degrees or higher
from 4 to 9 p.m., if health permits.
 Defer use of major appliances from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. Run your dishwasher and washing
machine earlier or later.
 Turn off all unnecessary lights from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m.
 Cook your meals earlier in the day to save energy and keep your home cooler.
 Avoid charging EVs from 4-9 p.m., if possible. Instead, charge them before 4 p.m. when
solar production is abundant and electricity prices are likely lower.
We don’t anticipate any rotating power outages at this time.
This is the second Flex Alert of the 2022 summer season

not enough electricity........

Like I said you ignored the reasons
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