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wdmso 11-23-2022 08:47 AM

The 2024 candidates speak
 
Mike Pompeo Boldly and Insanely Claims Teachers’ Union Leader Is “the Most Dangerous Person in the World”—Ahead of Kim Jong Un

When Pompeo was asked.


Who’s the most likely to take this republic down?” It would be the teachers’ unions, and the filth that they’re teaching our kids,

Regurgitating right wing nonsense shocking

Jim in CT 11-23-2022 10:00 AM

Teachers are great. Teachers unions are evil, that's not an exaggeration in my opinion. They bankroll campaigns of corrupt democrats, then partner with governments to enrich the union while making children more ignorant. Teachers unions could teach the mafia lessons about greed and corruption.

When I taught, it was in a rough middle school in a rough town. Lots of fights in the hallways between classes. One day the principal asked teachers to stick their heads into the hallway for the 3-5 minutes we had between periods to look out for trouble. Who wouldn't agree to that? The union. The union sent us all letters demanding that we refuse to do that, because the taxpayers weren't paying us to work for the 3 minutes between periods. The union demanded we get paid more for doing that.

Then, some business donated a few ping pong tables to the school. I am a ping pong master, so I agreed to start a ping pong club at the school. There was no money to pay me, but I didn't care. I did it for free. The union sent me another letter, demanding that I stop volunteering my time, they demanded that the school pay me or no club. I told them to go f-ck themselves.

Then during covid, unions refused to go back to work unless all kinds of demands were met.

Now my 3 are in catholic schools. No unions. The difference in culture is night and day.

We get it, your union made you wealthier than you ever could have been without them. But there are two sides to that story, the other side being what taxpayers have to do, to fund what unions demand, and what they get thanks to whores in the democrat party who are owned by the union.

Crappy parents are the biggest obstacle to offering good education to kids. Teachers unions are a close second. You cannot oppose school choice and say with a straight face that you care about the quality of education we offer kids.

Teachers Unions are all about $$, and it's never ever enough.

Pompeo called the union president "the most dangerous person in the world", which is an idiotic thing to say. But her union is doing catastrophic damage to generations of children, enriching themselves at the expense of the kids. That's what teachers unions do. Take resources away from kids and put that money in the union bank accounts.

Teachers unions are great for teachers. They are catastrophic for students.

The democrats need more from the unions now. Their second biggest donor, after George Soros, is that con man whose crypto company just went kaput. He gave huge $$ to democrats. If he were a Republican megadonor, you'd have made 10 posts about it.

wdmso 11-23-2022 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1235723)
Teachers are great. Teachers unions are evil, that's not an exaggeration in my opinion. They bankroll campaigns of corrupt democrats, then partner with governments to enrich the union while making children more ignorant. Teachers unions could teach the mafia lessons about greed and corruption.

When I taught, it was in a rough middle school in a rough town. Lots of fights in the hallways between classes. One day the principal asked teachers to stick their heads into the hallway for the 3-5 minutes we had between periods to look out for trouble. Who wouldn't agree to that? The union. The union sent us all letters demanding that we refuse to do that, because the taxpayers weren't paying us to work for the 3 minutes between periods. The union demanded we get paid more for doing that.

Then, some business donated a few ping pong tables to the school. I am a ping pong master, so I agreed to start a ping pong club at the school. There was no money to pay me, but I didn't care. I did it for free. The union sent me another letter, demanding that I stop volunteering my time, they demanded that the school pay me or no club. I told them to go f-ck themselves.

Then during covid, unions refused to go back to work unless all kinds of demands were met.

Now my 3 are in catholic schools. No unions. The difference in culture is night and day.

We get it, your union made you wealthier than you ever could have been without them. But there are two sides to that story, the other side being what taxpayers have to do, to fund what unions demand, and what they get thanks to whores in the democrat party who are owned by the union.

Crappy parents are the biggest obstacle to offering good education to kids. Teachers unions are a close second. You cannot oppose school choice and say with a straight face that you care about the quality of education we offer kids.

Teachers Unions are all about $$, and it's never ever enough.

Pompeo called the union president "the most dangerous person in the world", which is an idiotic thing to say. But her union is doing catastrophic damage to generations of children, enriching themselves at the expense of the kids. That's what teachers unions do. Take resources away from kids and put that money in the union bank accounts.

Teachers unions are great for teachers. They are catastrophic for students.

The democrats need more from the unions now. Their second biggest donor, after George Soros, is that con man whose crypto company just went kaput. He gave huge $$ to democrats. If he were a Republican megadonor, you'd have made 10 posts about it.

He gave money to Republicans. But thanks for staying on topic

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...or-republicans

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried, while a top Democratic campaign contributor, also gave a significant sum of cash to Republican candidates and organizations ahead of the midterm election.


Unions are great for Americans. Republicans and big business not so much

Your child’s education is the parents responsibility

teachers can’t teach children who don’t attend don’t their homework while dealing with parents who think their responsibility end once the kid on the bus .. then crying their victims because their kid aren’t successful in school

The woke excuse only works on the Republican uninformed base voter
With most of them having zero children in school

Pete F. 11-23-2022 12:38 PM

I wonder what the poor Victim RINO would find to be an acceptable teacher salary, should they only be single women who could be housed by upstanding members of the community?
That was the norm in rural America 80 years ago.
But as usual everything in the victim’s mind is proof that he’s correct, never mind that:
Liberals declared independence from Britain and fought to win it. Conservatives opposed the idea and fought with the British Army for King George.
Liberals became abolitionists and conservatives fought to defend slavery.
Liberals supported female suffrage; conservatives did not.
Conservatives tried to steal the “Patriot” label from the Liberals. Conservatives have tried to steal the “Pro-Life” label from doctors trying to save the lives of pregnant women who will die without an abortion. Liberals are reclaiming their stolen labels from Conservatives.
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Jim in CT 11-23-2022 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1235725)
He gave money to Republicans. But thanks for staying on topic

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...or-republicans

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried, while a top Democratic campaign contributor, also gave a significant sum of cash to Republican candidates and organizations ahead of the midterm election.


Unions are great for Americans. Republicans and big business not so much

Your child’s education is the parents responsibility

teachers can’t teach children who don’t attend don’t their homework while dealing with parents who think their responsibility end once the kid on the bus .. then crying their victims because their kid aren’t successful in school

The woke excuse only works on the Republican uninformed base voter
With most of them having zero children in school

“he gave money to republicans.”

From your article, in the 21-22 elections, he gave $262,000 to Republicans, and $40,000,000 to democrats

You really missed your calling. With your unlimited ability to say absolutely anything, no matter how absurd, you should have been a lawyer.

99.35% of his donations were to democrats.

Jim in CT 11-23-2022 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1235725)
He gave money to Republicans. But thanks for staying on topic

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...or-republicans

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried, while a top Democratic campaign contributor, also gave a significant sum of cash to Republican candidates and organizations ahead of the midterm election.


Unions are great for Americans. Republicans and big business not so much

Your child’s education is the parents responsibility

teachers can’t teach children who don’t attend don’t their homework while dealing with parents who think their responsibility end once the kid on the bus .. then crying their victims because their kid aren’t successful in school

The woke excuse only works on the Republican uninformed base voter
With most of them having zero children in school

"Your child’s education is the parents responsibility "

So teachers, who in New England can EASILY make $100k a year with cadillac health insurance, insanely generous pensions, tons of time off, and guaranteed job security, have no responsibility for education? What is their responsibility then, Wayne? If teachers aren't responsible for the education of their students, what would you say they are responsible for?

Furthermore, your side is saying parents should but out and leave it to the teachers. That's mutually exclusive from your statement that education is the parents responsibility.

If you really believe that educating my kids is my responsibility, then how can you oppose the idea of letting me spend my tax dollars on the education that I know is best for my kids?

Talk about wanting to have it both ways!

Most Republicans have no children in school? What are you talking about? Did you drink fentanyl today?

Jim in CT 11-23-2022 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1235726)
Liberals became abolitionists and conservatives fought to defend slavery.

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I love it. Pete, there are no words anymore to describe your dishonesty. Why not make up a quote from Robert E Lee, saying that Trump forced him to defend slavery? That would be no less stupid, than what you just posted.

John Brown was a liberal. Gotcha!

Jim in CT 11-23-2022 04:38 PM

Pete, who was responsible for the riots in the summer of 2020? The tea party? The boy scouts?

wdmso 11-23-2022 05:33 PM

Donald Trump continued to lash out Wednesday at the Supreme Court after its order Tuesday that cleared the way for a congressional committee to examine the former president’s tax returns.
The Post’s Robert Barnes notes that in a posting on Truth Social, the online platform Trump founded, he denounced the court — three of whose justices he appointed — as a political body that has lost respect.
“Why would anybody be surprised that the Supreme Court has ruled against me, they always do!” Trump wrote at 1:14 a.m. Eastern.
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wdmso 11-23-2022 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1235729)
"Your child’s education is the parents responsibility "

So teachers, who in New England can EASILY make $100k a year with cadillac health insurance, insanely generous pensions, tons of time off, and guaranteed job security, have no responsibility for education? What is their responsibility then, Wayne? If teachers aren't responsible for the education of their students, what would you say they are responsible for?

Furthermore, your side is saying parents should but out and leave it to the teachers. That's mutually exclusive from your statement that education is the parents responsibility.

If you really believe that educating my kids is my responsibility, then how can you oppose the idea of letting me spend my tax dollars on the education that I know is best for my kids?

Talk about wanting to have it both ways!

Most Republicans have no children in school? What are you talking about? Did you drink fentanyl today?

then how can you oppose the idea of letting me spend my tax dollars on the education

Because Jim you don’t pay crap..

How much of your town tax’s do you think you pay for 3 kids to go to school.. in a year. The same as the person who has no kids.

You have no argument it’s fantasy .



Most Republicans have no children in school?

You need to read more

When I began to cover the protests over Common Core State Standards a few years ago, most of the opponents showing up at the Legislature were home-schooling parents and older Georgians whose children had long graduated. I recall a woman brushing away tears as she told lawmakers how Common Core would hurt her four kids, but, when asked which district her children attended, explained they were home-schooled.

https://www.noleftturn.us/

You should love this site
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Pete F. 11-23-2022 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1235730)
I love it. Pete, there are no words anymore to describe your dishonesty. Why not make up a quote from Robert E Lee, saying that Trump forced him to defend slavery? That would be no less stupid, than what you just posted.

John Brown was a liberal. Gotcha!

You’ll never figure out the difference, will you?
You think the conservative position was anti slavery?
Pro voting rights?
Anti British?
For women having the right to vote, have credit cards, attend college?
Interesting fantasy world you live in, where educators teach “filth”

Jim, the "moderate Republicans" of the old GOP are never coming back. They've been driven out by conspiracy theorists, kooks, and election deniers like you. The Republican Party as we knew it is no longer.
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Pete F. 11-23-2022 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1235736)
Pete, who was responsible for the riots in the summer of 2020? The tea party? The boy scouts?

Poor RINO victim it’s pretty simple, the rioters.
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Jim in CT 11-23-2022 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1235738)
then how can you oppose the idea of letting me spend my tax dollars on the education

Because Jim you don’t pay crap..

How much of your town tax’s do you think you pay for 3 kids to go to school.. in a year. The same as the person who has no kids.

You have no argument it’s fantasy .



Most Republicans have no children in school?

You need to read more

When I began to cover the protests over Common Core State Standards a few years ago, most of the opponents showing up at the Legislature were home-schooling parents and older Georgians whose children had long graduated. I recall a woman brushing away tears as she told lawmakers how Common Core would hurt her four kids, but, when asked which district her children attended, explained they were home-schooled.

https://www.noleftturn.us/

You should love this site
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what’s the responsibility of the teachers wayne, if not educating children?

one person observing that one group of republicans was home schooling, from that you make a leap that republicans don’t have kids in public school.

republicans are less wealthy than liberals. they’re more likely to have kids in public school. it’s not rocket science.

one woman home schools, and you think she represents every republican? brilliant wayne.

if i don’t pay crap, then it’s no big deal to give it back to me.

You’re humiliating yourself.

Pete F. 11-23-2022 11:31 PM

It’s pretty obvious that nobody who claims to be a conservative Republican actually is one…..

The Colorado shooter’s dad on finding out his son murdered people: “They started telling me about the incident, a shooting... And then I go on to find out it’s a gay bar. I got scared, ‘#^&#^&#^&#^&, is he gay?’ And he’s not gay, so I said, phew… I am a conservative Republican.”
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The Dad Fisherman 11-24-2022 08:31 AM

Ahhh…..more “Faux” Quotes by Pete. :rolleyes:
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wdmso 11-24-2022 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1235743)
what’s the responsibility of the teachers wayne, if not educating children?

one person observing that one group of republicans was home schooling, from that you make a leap that republicans don’t have kids in public school.

republicans are less wealthy than liberals. they’re more likely to have kids in public school. it’s not rocket science.

one woman home schools, and you think she represents every republican? brilliant wayne.

if i don’t pay crap, then it’s no big deal to give it back to me.

You’re humiliating yourself.


Jim on person humiliating oneself is you. Because

you think you’re entitled to what it costs to send a child to school x3

Which in your state is Connecticut spends $20,635 per student,

Like I said you don’t pay enough taxes . But want school choice welfare
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Pete F. 11-24-2022 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1235746)
Ahhh…..more “Faux” Quotes by Pete. :rolleyes:
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There’s video

https://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/sta...4Abg6o_A9ZVHnA
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spence 11-24-2022 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1235749)
There’s video

https://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/sta...4Abg6o_A9ZVHnA
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This is beyond disturbing to watch. Is the guy hammered to boot?

The Dad Fisherman 11-24-2022 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1235749)
There’s video

https://twitter.com/noliewithbtc/sta...4Abg6o_A9ZVHnA
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I stand corrected.

Maybe you should open with that next time.
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PaulS 11-24-2022 12:18 PM

Who is really surprised when you have one of the leading R contenders for Pres. saying Warnock should be deported and "legal immigrants are more patriotic than the leftists these days."

PaulS 11-24-2022 01:37 PM

How about quotes from Trump's former senior legal adviser Ellis:

“Even more tragic than untimely death, is that the five people who were killed in the nightclub that night, there is no evidence at all that they were Christians,” the far-right attorney said. “And so assuming that they had not accepted the truth of the Gospel of Christ and affirmed Jesus Christ as the lord of their life, they are now reaping the consequences of having eternal damnation.”

wdmso 11-25-2022 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1235751)
This is beyond disturbing to watch. Is the guy hammered to boot?

Seems his grandfathers a peach and big MAGA supporter

California politician who compared the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol to the American Revolutionary War,

Hate is taught
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wdmso 11-25-2022 10:53 AM

Rapper Kanye West has said he intends to run for US president in 2024,

And ask Trump to be his running mate
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Pete F. 11-26-2022 10:13 AM

A candidate for the Presidency, who will almost certainly be the Republican nominee, had dinner Tuesday with a literal Nazi at his residence where he hid stolen secret documents. There’s your Republican Party.
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wdmso 11-26-2022 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1235775)
A candidate for the Presidency, who will almost certainly be the Republican nominee, had dinner Tuesday with a literal Nazi at his residence where he hid stolen secret documents. There’s your Republican Party.
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MyPillow Founder Lindell Weighs Run for RNC Chair

As you said there’s your Republicans


And for anyone who’ll claim they don’t know who’s these people are .

The ADL

Nicholas Joseph Fuentes is an American far-right, Christian nationalist, and white supremacist


1. Nicholas Fuentes is a white supremacist leader and organizer and podcaster who seeks to forge a white nationalist alternative to the mainstream GOP.


2) Nicholas Fuentes believes that he is working to defend against “leftist” cultural changes that are destroying the “true America:” a white, Christian nation.

3) Fuentes has used his platforms to make numerous antisemitic and racist comments.

4) Fuentes promoted election fraud narratives and encouraged his adherents to participate in nationwide “Stop the Steal” protests.

5) Fuentes has been embraced and praised by a spectrum of far right-wing fringe conservatives, providing him a larger platform for elevating the America First movement.

And this is who the former and 2024 candidate. Chooses to publicly associates with…

But but Hunter
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PaulS 11-26-2022 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1235775)
A candidate for the Presidency, who will almost certainly be the Republican nominee, had dinner Tuesday with a literal Nazi at his residence where he hid stolen secret documents. There’s your Republican Party.
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Well in Trump's defense he prob. "didn't know who he was but they say he loves his country" and Stacy Abrams said her election was stolen.

Jim in CT 11-26-2022 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1235748)
Jim on person humiliating oneself is you. Because

you think you’re entitled to what it costs to send a child to school x3

Which in your state is Connecticut spends $20,635 per student,

Like I said you don’t pay enough taxes . But want school choice welfare
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my town ( education budgets are usually a town thing not a state thing) spends about $14k per kid.

YOU said education is the parents responsibility, not the teachers. Fine. Give me some of my tax money back ( not all of it) and let me use it to fulfill what YOU said was my responsibility.

Yes taxes in CT are way too low. That’s our problem. You figured it out.

Jim in CT 11-27-2022 07:40 AM

wayne, say the average CT public school spends 20k per kid as you stated.

Let’s say i get $3k of that back, which i use to send my kid to another school. Since you said it’s my responsibility ( not the teachers’) to educate my kid.

My kid is better off.

The public school is also better off, because they can keep the other $17,000 and use it on the smaller number of remaining kids. Fewer students,,more
money to spend per kid, smaller class sizes in the public schools. so those kids are also better off.

Win-win.

Youre opposed to the idea that i can use my own tax money to educate my own kids. Yet you are ok with the idea that you confiscate more of other peoples money to help pay for your kids student loans.

Funny, you said it’s the parents responsibility to educate their own children, yet you support the idea of forcing everyone else to help your family repay student loans that you chose to take on. If you believe what you said, that educating your kids is your responsibility, how can you be ok with asking everyone else to repay your kids student loans?

that’s called “wanting to have it both ways.”

The Dad Fisherman 11-27-2022 08:05 AM

Very well thought out and thought provoking post delivered respectfully.

I can’t wait for Wayne’s reinterpretation of it, where you get told you’re a Trump loving Nazi sympathizer.
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Jim in CT 11-27-2022 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1235786)
Very well thought out and thought provoking post delivered respectfully.

I can’t wait for Wayne’s reinterpretation of it, where you get told you’re a Trump loving Nazi sympathizer.
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i was a public school teacher. And there is no argument against school choice, unless all you care about is the union. Kids benefit from school choice. Only public unions lose a little. So the question is, do schools exist to enrich unions, or do they exist to help students achieve their dreams? That’s not a difficult question for me.

And thanks.

wdmso 11-27-2022 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1235786)
Very well thought out and thought provoking post delivered respectfully.

I can’t wait for Wayne’s reinterpretation of it, where you get told you’re a Trump loving Nazi sympathizer.
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Very well thought out and thought provoking post delivered respectfully.

Unlike your response spoken like a child shocking ..

The Dad Fisherman 11-27-2022 09:25 AM

Just cutting to the chase, not like that’s not your usual response
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wdmso 11-27-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1235785)
wayne, say the average CT public school spends 20k per kid as you stated.

Let’s say i get $3k of that back, which i use to send my kid to another school. Since you said it’s my responsibility ( not the teachers’) to educate my kid.

My kid is better off.

The public school is also better off, because they can keep the other $17,000 and use it on the smaller number of remaining kids. Fewer students,,more
money to spend per kid, smaller class sizes in the public schools. so those kids are also better off.

Win-win.

Youre opposed to the idea that i can use my own tax money to educate my own kids. Yet you are ok with the idea that you confiscate more of other peoples money to help pay for your kids student loans.

Funny, you said it’s the parents responsibility to educate their own children, yet you support the idea of forcing everyone else to help your family repay student loans that you chose to take on. If you believe what you said, that educating your kids is your responsibility, how can you be ok with asking everyone else to repay your kids student loans?

that’s called “wanting to have it both ways.”

Jim. Where do you get 3k amount from. ? I pay around 4K a year

So you are looking for 100% of your taxes back?. That’s been my I point it’s a fantasy don’t your kids already go to Catholic school.

funny conservatives have no issue with billlions of ppp loan forgiveness. With zero oversight. But upset over some student loan forgiveness . Because conservatives think only Democratic’s have students loans. You want a list of Republican law makes who took millions in PPP loans but voted against it and are against student loan forgiveness
or when conservatives Republicans try to block early voting in GA ..it’s always outrage politics from the right

U.S. Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., whose businesses had their loans forgiven, said it "takes a special kind of idiocy to equate (student debt forgiveness) to the PPP.

No it takes 1oz of honesty which clearly he doesn’t have nor do the

GOP Reps Who Voted Against $2,000 Checks Received Millions in COVID Bailout Funds


Jim the scam is National with Republicans

Arizona Republican lawmakers want you to pay private school tuitions for wealthy families

Arizona voters by an overwhelming margin rejected a Republican plan to allow all of Arizona’s 1 million-plus public school students to get vouchers to attend private and parochial schools.

And guess what the lawmakers disregard the will of the people 1 million voters lose to 31 lawmakers

This is part of the Arizona GOP’s ongoing irrational war on public education. A bizarre Robin Hood-in-reverse attack on our schools:

Robbing from the poor to give to the rich. And it’s GOP policy nation wide :kewl::kewl:

Jim in CT 11-27-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1235790)
Jim. Where do you get 3k amount from. ? I pay around 4K a year

So you are looking for 100% of your taxes back?. That’s been my I point it’s a fantasy don’t your kids already go to Catholic school.

funny conservatives have no issue with billlions of ppp loan forgiveness. With zero oversight. But upset over some student loan forgiveness . Because conservatives think only Democratic’s have students loans. You want a list of Republican law makes who took millions in PPP loans but voted against it and are against student loan forgiveness
or when conservatives Republicans try to block early voting in GA ..it’s always outrage politics from the right

U.S. Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., whose businesses had their loans forgiven, said it "takes a special kind of idiocy to equate (student debt forgiveness) to the PPP.

No it takes 1oz of honesty which clearly he doesn’t have nor do the

GOP Reps Who Voted Against $2,000 Checks Received Millions in COVID Bailout Funds


Jim the scam is National with Republicans

Arizona Republican lawmakers want you to pay private school tuitions for wealthy families

Arizona voters by an overwhelming margin rejected a Republican plan to allow all of Arizona’s 1 million-plus public school students to get vouchers to attend private and parochial schools.

And guess what the lawmakers disregard the will of the people 1 million voters lose to 31 lawmakers

This is part of the Arizona GOP’s ongoing irrational war on public education. A bizarre Robin Hood-in-reverse attack on our schools:

Robbing from the poor to give to the rich. And it’s GOP policy nation wide :kewl::kewl:

i made up the 3k amount. my position on school
choice is parents should be able to get a portion of their own taxes back to spend as they see fit on their kids education .

Jim in CT 11-27-2022 09:49 AM

„so you are looking for 100% of your taxes back”?

No. I proposed $3k. that’s a small percentage

How much if my money are you entitled to, in order to pay off student loans your family chose to take on?

How much of my money are you entitled to? and how much are my kids entitled to?

Jim in CT 11-27-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1235790)
Jim. Where do you get 3k amount from. ? I pay around 4K a year

So you are looking for 100% of your taxes back?. That’s been my I point it’s a fantasy don’t your kids already go to Catholic school.

funny conservatives have no issue with billlions of ppp loan forgiveness. With zero oversight. But upset over some student loan forgiveness . Because conservatives think only Democratic’s have students loans. You want a list of Republican law makes who took millions in PPP loans but voted against it and are against student loan forgiveness
or when conservatives Republicans try to block early voting in GA ..it’s always outrage politics from the right

U.S. Rep. Ralph Norman, R-S.C., whose businesses had their loans forgiven, said it "takes a special kind of idiocy to equate (student debt forgiveness) to the PPP.

No it takes 1oz of honesty which clearly he doesn’t have nor do the

GOP Reps Who Voted Against $2,000 Checks Received Millions in COVID Bailout Funds


Jim the scam is National with Republicans

Arizona Republican lawmakers want you to pay private school tuitions for wealthy families

Arizona voters by an overwhelming margin rejected a Republican plan to allow all of Arizona’s 1 million-plus public school students to get vouchers to attend private and parochial schools.

And guess what the lawmakers disregard the will of the people 1 million voters lose to 31 lawmakers

This is part of the Arizona GOP’s ongoing irrational war on public education. A bizarre Robin Hood-in-reverse attack on our schools:

Robbing from the poor to give to the rich. And it’s GOP policy nation wide :kewl::kewl:

and you went to PPP loan forgivenesses. They weren’t “loans.”. right from the start, the agreement was that the money did not need to be repaid if the employers met certain conditions. That is, by definition, not a loan. A loan is what you agreed to, when you took out student loans, which you now hope everyone else will pay back. Gimme, gimme, gimme.

That’s far different from your student loans, which you promised to pay back but now are reaching into our pockets because that’s easier for you. but when i ask for a portion of my taxes back to arrange for the education of my kids ( which you said was my responsibility) you’re opposed to it.

You’re doing exactly, precisely what TDF said you’d do.

The Dad Fisherman 11-27-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1235792)
„so you are looking for 100% of your taxes back”?

No. I proposed $3k. that’s a small percentage

How much if my money are you entitled to, in order to pay off student loans your family chose to take on?

How much of my money are you entitled to? and how much are my kids entitled to?

How about looking at the percentage that the school department gets in the annual budget, then give that same percentage back to the tax payers that want to send their kids to alternative schooling, based on their taxes paid.

Could be a starting point for discussion.
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Jim in CT 11-27-2022 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1235794)
How about looking at the percentage that the school department gets in the annual budget, then give that same percentage back to the tax payers that want to send their kids to alternative schooling, based on their taxes paid.

Could be a starting point for discussion.
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it’s a perfectly logical starting point. But it will never take place in blue states, because the democrats are beholden to the unions.

i thought liberals were “pro choice.”. i’m almost certain I’ve heard that somewhere.

Got Stripers 11-27-2022 02:44 PM

Peg's been paying taxes for years, without any children, it's a unfair system for those that are NOT benefitting from the public school system.

Jim in CT 11-27-2022 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1235798)
Peg's been paying taxes for years, without any children, it's a unfair system for those that are NOT benefitting from the public school system.

i disagree. if we never had kids i’d still support paying taxes to help fund good public schools. We all have a vested interest in having good public schools, that helps all of us. But if i feel that another school is better for my kids, a great argument can be made that everyone is better off if i can use a small portion of my own money to fund it. there isn’t a great argument against it that i’ve heard.


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