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spence 03-17-2024 02:21 PM

PT Deck splintering
 
My deck is starting to delaminate for lack of a better word and lifting up in a few places that see the most traffic. Obviously it’s a tripping hazard or worse someone barefoot could take a shiv up the toenail.

This this will glue down or should I just cut them out? It is well weathered PT but still sound otherwise.

Nebe 03-17-2024 04:12 PM

Time for a new deck
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nightfighter 03-17-2024 07:55 PM

Look at STK cedar instead of PT.

STK=straight grain tight knots

spence 03-18-2024 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1244597)
Time for a new deck
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Nope, still solid and doesn’t look bad at all.

nightfighter 03-18-2024 12:19 PM

Jeff, there is a difference between being "solid" and being suitable for the application. New pressure treated 5/4 x 6 decking might do the job when new. But it sounds like yours has degraded to the point that it is no longer suitable for your family to walk on barefoot.... And you are not going to be able to walk back the damage done by years of sun, snow, and rain.

spence 03-18-2024 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1244603)
Jeff, there is a difference between being "solid" and being suitable for the application. New pressure treated 5/4 x 6 decking might do the job when new. But it sounds like yours has degraded to the point that it is no longer suitable for your family to walk on barefoot.... And you are not going to be able to walk back the damage done by years of sun, snow, and rain.

It’s only in a few places, if it was all over I’d agree. My question was really if any adhesive had a chance to hold or I should just cut it out. I’d like to get another five years out of it.

Pete F. 03-18-2024 02:41 PM

Assuming it has low traffic areas maybe with a piece of porch furniture.
Pull a piece from the hidden space and use it to replace the deteriorating piece.
Flip the “bad” piece and install in the somewhat hidden area.
Or just fit a new piece for now.
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piemma 03-18-2024 03:01 PM

Jeff, what Pete said. Personally, one of our decks was like that last year and I demoed it and rebuilt with Azex.

Guppy 03-18-2024 04:07 PM

I say cut them out… I replaced mine when it got like that,,, but worse than what yours sounds like….. splinters suck….

Slipknot 03-20-2024 06:40 AM

Maybe you can flip them over if you choose not to replace
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Guppy 03-20-2024 07:35 AM

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Maybe you can flip them over if you choose not to replace
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huh

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Slipknot 03-20-2024 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1244642)


well he says it's PT so I assume 5/4 x 6 decking. Should not be too hard to pry it up and flip it, I have done it when the topside was well weathered, get a few more good years out of it no cracks , splits and less splinters.

nightfighter 03-20-2024 03:37 PM

I have used previously installed decking by flipping them. However my personal experience in removing them has been that only 25% were harvested in good enough shape to use again. It is a fool's errand in my opinion, and I played the fool on my own deck with 1x4 mahogany I took from a deck we replaced. I went with composite Trex a number of years ago and been enjoying it ever since.

Guppy 03-21-2024 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1244647)
well he says it's PT so I assume 5/4 x 6 decking. Should not be too hard to pry it up and flip it, I have done it when the topside was well weathered, get a few more good years out of it no cracks , splits and less splinters.

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Slipknot 03-21-2024 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1244648)
I have used previously installed decking by flipping them. However my personal experience in removing them has been that only 25% were harvested in good enough shape to use again. It is a fool's errand in my opinion, and I played the fool on my own deck with 1x4 mahogany I took from a deck we replaced. I went with composite Trex a number of years ago and been enjoying it ever since.

Well, he's looking to fix it with glue or adhesive. That is an even bigger fool's errand

piemma 03-21-2024 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1244659)
Well, he's looking to fix it with glue or adhesive. That is an even bigger fool's errand

I told him to go composite. Trex of Azak

nightfighter 03-21-2024 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1244659)
Well, he's looking to fix it with glue or adhesive. That is an even bigger fool's errand

My money is on Jeff covering the offending area with a green outdoor carpet....:bl: And that is a solution.

spence 03-21-2024 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 1244659)
Well, he's looking to fix it with glue or adhesive. That is an even bigger fool's errand

Hence my question. I wasn’t thinking Elmer’s freaking glue, more like marine epoxy.

spence 03-21-2024 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1244664)
My money is on Jeff covering the offending area with a green outdoor carpet....:bl: And that is a solution.

You mean to replace the red carpet that’s there now?

spence 07-19-2024 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1244603)
Jeff, there is a difference between being "solid" and being suitable for the application. New pressure treated 5/4 x 6 decking might do the job when new. But it sounds like yours has degraded to the point that it is no longer suitable for your family to walk on barefoot.... And you are not going to be able to walk back the damage done by years of sun, snow, and rain.

Ok so I’m replacing it with Azek, ARE YOU HAPPY NOW???? :alright:

Actually going to rebuild the five wide front stairs to the porch with railing, side stairs and the deck. I’d do the wrap around porch but the old PT is still in good shape (it’s covered) and it’s a lot of $sq/ft.

nightfighter 07-19-2024 06:18 PM

I am happy, because you are going to love it and YOU will be happy on your deck!:nopics:

spence 07-20-2024 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1245858)
I am happy, because you are going to love it and YOU will be happy on your deck!:nopics:

I’ll take before and after once I get the plan in place.

spence 08-10-2024 03:28 PM

Oh great, scope creep…this is going to be expensive :smash:

Guppy 08-10-2024 04:06 PM

Over 10,000 views, can that be correct?

Got Stripers 08-10-2024 04:44 PM

Wow he has quite the following��

spence 08-11-2024 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1246046)
Wow he has quite the following��

Years ago a guy bought a surf rod I was selling just so he could meet me, that was in the heyday of the politics forum :cheers2:

Nebe 08-11-2024 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1244597)
Time for a new deck
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I TOLD YOU SO. :smash:
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spence 08-11-2024 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1246049)
I TOLD YOU SO. :smash:
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Want isn’t the same thing as need. I’m only going there because Ross bullied me into it.

spence 08-21-2024 03:53 PM

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Today was the start of phase 1, main exterior stairs. They got wider and longer but the landing was big enough. Soon to have rails.

nightfighter 08-21-2024 06:04 PM

I bullied you???? Tell me you feel the same when it is done.... You are going to ask yourself why you didn't do it earlier..... By the way, the guy looks to be doing it all right. AND that is a superb landing you have for a carpenter to start off with!

redlite 08-21-2024 06:41 PM

By any chance is south coast contracting doing the work?
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Raider Ronnie 08-23-2024 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1246048)
Years ago a guy bought a surf rod I was selling just so he could meet me, that was in the heyday of the politics forum :cheers2:



Mike told me you were on the Fishbucket last week.
Bomba said hi but I had no idea you were on the boat.
You should have introduced yourself.

spence 08-23-2024 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1246140)
Mike told me you were on the Fishbucket last week.
Bomba said hi but I had no idea you were on the boat.
You should have introduced yourself.

Where were you?

Raider Ronnie 08-25-2024 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1246143)
Where were you?

After the morning bite slowed Mike & I both headed to the outer harbor to jig mackerel.
My boat is the Downeast KALM SEAS
At one point we had the boats stern to stern & Bomba yelled over to say hi. I didn’t recognize him because he had a hat on.
I heard you are having some health issues.
Sorry to hear that.

spence 08-26-2024 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1246154)
After the morning bite slowed Mike & I both headed to the outer harbor to jig mackerel.
My boat is the Downeast KALM SEAS
At one point we had the boats stern to stern & Bomba yelled over to say hi. I didn’t recognize him because he had a hat on.
I heard you are having some health issues.
Sorry to hear that.

Ha, I didn’t realize that was your boat or I would have :bshake:

Health is improving but I didn’t exactly jump on and off the boat. At Christmas I couldn’t walk without a walker and a few months ago to be honest didn’t know if I could handle the trip. No big issues though and I continue to get healthier every day. Walking 8-12 miles a week.

Raider Ronnie 08-26-2024 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1246160)
Ha, I didn’t realize that was your boat or I would have :bshake:

Health is improving but I didn’t exactly jump on and off the boat. At Christmas I couldn’t walk without a walker and a few months ago to be honest didn’t know if I could handle the trip. No big issues though and I continue to get healthier every day. Walking 8-12 miles a week.



Hope you stay on the mend

spence 09-05-2024 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1246163)
Hope you stay on the mend

Thanks, just had umbilical surgery this morning so add that to the pile of stuff to recover from. Went well though.

spence 09-05-2024 09:31 PM

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Projects 4 of 5 complete. Two sets of stairs totally rebuilt and proper rails added, grade level deck and wrap around porch resurfaced using existing substructure which just needed reinforcement for the picture frame and details and minimal sistering. All PT decking (about 1000 sq/ft) is now gone and I'm very pleased with the results. Last project is the lattice under the porch which I hope to have done next week.

Color is in-between the second the third photos. TimberTech Vintage in Weathered Teak.

And you guys thought I was going to use GLUE! :hee:

spence 09-05-2024 09:35 PM

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Few more. The new front stairs to the porch makes a nice statement from the road. Scope creep, we don't need no stinking scope creep :smokin:

Guppy 09-06-2024 05:55 AM

Beautiful……..


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