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justplugit 08-12-2011 02:18 PM
So why isn't our President
 
showing Presidential leadership by cancelling his vacation and calling
back Congress to pound out a real solution to our financial and job crisis.

This of all times is the time to lead.
Where is the "razor sharp" emphasis on job creation?

spence 08-12-2011 02:21 PM
You think he's going to fix it next week?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

justplugit 08-12-2011 02:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879357)
You think he's going to fix it next week?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
A true leader would take the bull by the horns and start imediately.

Problem is , he's got the bull by the tail. :hihi:

"Manana, manana, manana is good enuff for him."

spence 08-12-2011 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 879359)
A true leader would take the bull by the horns and start imediately.

Problem is , he's got the bull by the tail. :hihi:

"Manana, manana, manana is good enuff for him."
It's a moot issue anyway. The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president. You know where their priorities lie.

-spence

justplugit 08-12-2011 04:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879382)
It's a moot issue anyway. The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president. You know where their priorities lie.

-spence
Spence, if he took the reins and brought Congress back, his ratings
would go up. No doubt in my mind.
If he were a true leader, he would be above politics and make his priority
leading America out of the financial debacle and getting the jobless back to work.

Maybe it's "above his pay grade."

If he had his priorities straight and worked on the econmy rather than all
that time spent on Obamacare we would be in a lot better shape.
Unfortunately, it wasn't part of his agenda.

Slipknot 08-12-2011 07:28 PM
Have they figured out by now that we cut our own throats by buying imported crap cheap that used to be made here with pride and quality and made to last ?:confused::smash::fury:

keep buying junk from overseas and see where that gets us jobwise :hs:

pretty soon when we stop buying their crap, they are going to slow down there also since they'll run out of customers:smash:

America was good at educating the world, can we still do that? Let's educate ourselves!

Buy American

Slipknot 08-12-2011 07:29 PM
A good leader is supposed to set a good example

we need a great leader now

Fly Rod 08-12-2011 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879357)
You think he's going to fix it next week?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device


Apparently the french president takes the situation more seriously and he canceled his vacation.

Fly Rod 08-12-2011 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 879415)
A good leader is supposed to set a good example

we need a great leader now

We do not need a great leader, we just need a leader that is willing to take the country in the right direction.

Spence's leader can not do that.

Raven 08-12-2011 08:32 PM
he was born to follow

scottw 08-13-2011 05:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879382)
It's a moot issue anyway. The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president. You know where their priorities lie.

-spence
"The GOP"....... "stated" this as their highest priority when?....did the Dems NOT want Bush to be a "one term president"? Does any party want the leader of the other party to NOT be a one termer?

such sophistry Spence.....tisk tisk :uhuh:


wait....I found it...shocking

Decision 2010 on msnbc.com
GOP leader's top goal: Make Obama 1-term president


funny... that's what the headline says but nowhere in the article is it "stated" even though it would be stating the obvious would it not?.........MSpenceNBC is great :uhuh:

according to THINKPROGRESS ..GOP Rhetoric Evolves From ‘Jobs Is Highest Priority’ To ‘Nothing More Important Than Abortion’

REALCLEARPOLITICS ....Banning Federal Abortion Funds "Highest" GOP Priority

Cleveland.com GOP's No. 1 priority -- burying the estate tax -- is telling

Bisiness Insider...The GOP's #1 Priority Next Year: Deprive Obamacare Of Its Funding

:rotf2:DailyDemocrat...Time to take GOP back from radical right. Confronting them and wresting the Republican Party from their grip is a matter of the highest priority for the nation.



OUCh!!!!...say it ain't so HUFFPO

Huffington: Obama's Highest Priority Is Campaigning For Reelection

JohnnyD 08-13-2011 07:07 AM
I still think the current situation is better than what could have happened:
http://i.imgur.com/lpyAx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AYrdc.png

scottw 08-13-2011 07:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 879462)
I still think the current situation is better than what could have happened:
http://i.imgur.com/lpyAx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AYrdc.png
cartoons and cut and paste to say thing could be worse?...c'mon JD...always back to Sarah isn't it?.....what did you paste there on Sarah's head? did she shoot the bear?...is it antique?...maybe hubby got it or granmpa passed it down? Why didn't the astute reporter ask..."who shot that bear right there on the floor at my feet"?

justplugit 08-13-2011 07:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 879462)
I still think the current situation is better than what could have happened:
Shear speculation without any fact whatsoever.

JohnnyD 08-13-2011 08:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 879468)
Shear speculation without any fact whatsoever.
Precisely why I said "I still think"

spence 08-13-2011 08:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 879468)
Shear speculation without any fact whatsoever.
As least I think Obama is doing what he thinks he should do and what's best for the Country. Aside from a few elements of the Health Care bill, both O's foreign and domestic policy has actually been pretty moderate.

Palin would have likely been put in a sack for 4 years, but I fear McCain would have been trying to do what he thought others would be wanting them to do just like in the campaign.

Unless someone shoved some fire in his face to wake him from the Black Sleep of Kali Ma...he could have just been a Right Wing zombie :hihi:

-spence

spence 08-13-2011 08:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw (Post 879450)
"The GOP"....... "stated" this as their highest priority when?....did the Dems NOT want Bush to be a "one term president"? Does any party want the leader of the other party to NOT be a one termer?
The GOP has worked against just about every Obama action since his inauguration on the basis that he fundamentally runs counter to American values. It's not even about policy...

You sure didn't see this with Bush in either election.

McConnell probably made the strongest direct statement as a GOP leader, but it's been underneath everything since day one...

-spence

justplugit 08-13-2011 08:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 879471)
Precisely why I said "I still think"
You come up with some good stuff JD, but in this case there
are no facts to back up what you THINK might have been.

justplugit 08-13-2011 08:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879474)
As least I think Obama is doing what he thinks he should do and what's best for the Country. Aside from a few elements of the Health Care bill, both O's foreign and domestic policy has actually been pretty moderate.
You have your facts to back up your thinking but another fact is he's
not doing what's best for the country by taking a vacation while
Rome Burns.

You say a week won't make a difference. That's our problem,
politicians are always putting off tackling the tough problems
until there's a crisis and then it's too late.

No time like the present.

JohnnyD 08-13-2011 08:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 879481)
You come up with some good stuff JD, but in this case there
are no facts to back up what you THINK might have been.
Nor are there facts to the contrary. I was unaware that posts with opinions are now unacceptable.

Jim in CT 08-13-2011 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879382)
It's a moot issue anyway. The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president. You know where their priorities lie.

-spence
As a Republican, let me say that's precisely where their priorities should be. Obama could not be doing more damage if he was a paid Al Queda agent.

Spence, can you please tell me what evidence there is, that liberal economics are a good idea? Can you tell me a liberal state that's thriving? Can you show me a state that isn't suffering because of union benefits? Can you show me an inner city, dominated by Democrats, that is improving? How many countries in Western Europe are thriving?

The Dad Fisherman 08-13-2011 09:51 AM
Their priority should be fixing the country...I'm not happy paying them their salary to spend the next year and a half focusing on removing the president instead of working on the issues that need to be fixed.

just so we can repeat the process the next 4 years w/ the roles reversed.

that is the #1 problem w/ politics....they spend more time trying to screw the other party than working for US.....

spence 08-13-2011 10:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 879506)
Obama could not be doing more damage if he was a paid Al Queda agent.
Number 2!

Quote:
Spence, can you please tell me what evidence there is, that liberal economics are a good idea?
Well, looking at the past century of tax increases, debt increases, regulation increases and bloated government...and despite all our current problems...we've still managed to build the most prosperous and successful nation in the history of the modern world.

Can't be all bad.


Quote:
Can you tell me a liberal state that's thriving?
Probably not. All their federal tax dollars are sucked away and sent to the Red states to fund projects that create jobs :hihi:


Quote:
Can you show me a state that isn't suffering because of union benefits?
Most states are suffering because of bad management. I've never advocated union excess. I'd also note that most state and municipal budget issues were created at the local level...

Quote:
Can you show me an inner city, dominated by Democrats, that is improving?
Can you show me an inner city dominated by Republicans improving or not?

Quote:
How many countries in Western Europe are thriving?
Off the top of my head I can think of one that has extensive social programs that's doing great...GERMANY.

-spence

Raven 08-13-2011 10:07 AM
of course this question will be asked until 2111

justplugit 08-13-2011 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 879489)
Nor are there facts to the contrary. I was unaware that posts with opinions are now unacceptable.
Sure opinions are acceptable.

It was my opinion on the same post that you come up
with some good stuff. :hihi:

scottw 08-13-2011 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879478)
McConnell probably made the strongest direct statement as a GOP leader, but it's been underneath everything since day one...

-spence
sooo...as usual you are just making things up and stating them as fact :uhuh:

Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
" The GOP has already stated their highest priority is ensuring he's a one term president". -spence

scottw 08-13-2011 11:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879517)
Number 2!


Well, looking at the past century of tax increases, debt increases, regulation increases and bloated government...and despite all our current problems...we've still managed to build the most prosperous and successful nation in the history of the modern world.

Can't be all bad.



Probably not. All their federal tax dollars are sucked away and sent to the Red states to fund projects that create jobs :hihi:



Most states are suffering because of bad management. I've never advocated union excess. I'd also note that most state and municipal budget issues were created at the local level...


Can you show me an inner city dominated by Republicans improving or not?

Off the top of my head I can think of one that has extensive social programs that's doing great...GERMANY.

-spence
this is stupidity :uhuh:

spence 08-13-2011 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw (Post 879540)
sooo...as usual you are just making things up and stating them as fact :uhuh:
The proof is in the pudding.

-spence

scottw 08-13-2011 11:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879549)
The proof is in the pudding.

-spence
slither :uhuh:

scottw 08-13-2011 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spence (Post 879478)
Obama fundamentally runs counter to American values.
-spence
I promised...so here you go...you stated an actual fact...:uhuh:


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