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Guppy 08-21-2019 11:36 AM

Wash down pump...
 
Time to retire my 5 gal. bucket wash down routine...
The pump onboard now handles live well ok but need another (stronger) for wash downs,,, tog season almost upon us...:-)

Any recommendations,,, oh, and whatís this pressure switch I see included with some ?

TIA

Rockfish9 08-21-2019 12:04 PM

I've had good luck with my sure flow pro blaster, It's been installed under my console for 5 season now, I went through 1 jabsco pump every 2 seasons before getting this one, the supply tee's off my bait pump (also a sure flow)I also have it piped through an accumulator, it helps alot to maintain good pressure..I filled mine with non toxic antifreeze at seasons end to help keep it from corroding (and freezing )
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Rockfish9 08-21-2019 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockfish9 (Post 1172633)
I've had good luck with my sure flow pro blaster, It's been installed under my console for 5 season now, I went through 1 jabsco pump every 2 seasons before getting this one, the supply tee's off my bait pump (also a sure flow)I also have it piped through an accumulator, it helps alot to maintain good pressure..I filled mine with non toxic antifreeze at seasons end to help keep it from corroding (and freezing )
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If you do add an accumulator, they always stink like a swamp every time you use them for the first few minutes.
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Rockfish9 08-21-2019 12:08 PM

Also the pro blaster has a built in 45 PSI switch, that shuts the pump off above 45 psi so you don't blow up hoses.
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Raider Ronnie 08-21-2019 01:02 PM

Those pumps are toys !
Install a new 1 1/2 seacock with a pick up scoop under the boat.
Then install a Rule 17A as close or even better directly off the seacock.
1 1/2 hose off pump to the deck
(White vacuum wire reinforced hose sold at West Marine)
If you want high pressure find a reduction barbed fitting to bring the 1 1/2 hose down to 1/2 diameter with give you 3800 gallons per hr and high pressure.
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Rockfish9 08-21-2019 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1172637)
Those pumps are toys !
Install a new 1 2/2 seacock with a pick up scoop under the boat.
Then install a Rule 17A as close or even better directly off the seacock.
1 1/2 hose off pump to the deck
(White vacuum wire reinforced hose sold at West Marine)
If you want high pressure find a reduction barbed fitting to bring the 1 1/2 hose down to 1/2 diameter with give you 3800 gallons per hr and high pressure.
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I can see the head line now, man sinks 18' boat with wash down hose.. be real Ron... not every boat needs to flood the deck with an 1 1/2" hose, just storing it in a small boat would be a nightmare..my " "toy" does a very nice/fast job of cleaning the boat after hauling lobster pots, bleeding/gutting a limit of haddock, cleaning muck after a morning of clamming or cleaning up after snagging pogies..just like it is supposed to do..
When I had my Holland, the choice was simualr to what you describe.. it had to be..

nightfighter 08-21-2019 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockfish9 (Post 1172642)
I can see the head line now, man sinks 18' boat with wash down hose.. be real Ron... not every boat needs to flood the deck with an 1 1/2" hose, just storing it in a small boat would be a nightmare..my " "toy" does a very nice/fast job of cleaning the boat after hauling lobster pots, bleeding/gutting a limit of haddock, cleaning muck after a morning of clamming or cleaning up after snagging pogies..just like it is supposed to do..
When I had my Holland, the choice was simualr to what you describe.. it had to be..

LMAO Had to be said. Perfect guy to say it too!:rotf2::rotf2:

Guppy 08-21-2019 04:12 PM

Thanks Joe.. and Ron if I ever buy a battleship Iíll set er up just like that.... LOL ;-) and thank you...

Have I got this right,,, I turn the pump on at the helm, the pump fires off and when the pressure reaches design, the motor shuts down til the wash down hose is used... yes?

I like that if thatís the case , been on a couple boats that have switch on pump on , switch off pump off ,,, thatís it !,,,

I wonít mention who Wayne and Niko... LOL

Ian 08-21-2019 05:43 PM

Iíve been contemplating the same addition to my ride, this popped up on another siteís deal thread today

https://www.hodgesmarine.com/Shurflo...48-153-e09.htm
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nightfighter 08-21-2019 08:18 PM

That's a good deal, even compared to Amazon, before shipping... But if you are adding, as opposed to just replacing the pump, look into the Ultimate .kit, which includes the strainer, hose, nozzle, and most if not all the connections you would need to hook up to the seacock. At least look at the list of fittings to compare to what you will have to buy.

https://www.hodgesmarine.com/Shurflo...58-153-e09.htm

Raider Ronnie 08-21-2019 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockfish9 (Post 1172642)
I can see the head line now, man sinks 18' boat with wash down hose.. be real Ron... not every boat needs to flood the deck with an 1 1/2" hose, just storing it in a small boat would be a nightmare..my " "toy" does a very nice/fast job of cleaning the boat after hauling lobster pots, bleeding/gutting a limit of haddock, cleaning muck after a morning of clamming or cleaning up after snagging pogies..just like it is supposed to do..
When I had my Holland, the choice was simualr to what you describe.. it had to be..


So whatís the lifespan of These little pea squirted pumps with the pressure switch before they rust up and #^&#^&#^&#^& the bed, 1-2 years ?
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Guppy 08-22-2019 02:12 AM

The one Iím lookin at has a 3 yr. warranty, plenty good pump for a 20 footer and a replacement for the 5 gal. bucket... :-)

nightfighter 08-22-2019 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1172682)
So whatís the lifespan of These little pea squirted pumps with the pressure switch before they rust up and #^&#^&#^&#^& the bed, 1-2 years ?
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I got my 1993 Grady in 2007. Replaced the original Shurflo in 2013. It gets regular use on my watch. So no complaints, other than access. Need another elbow to do the change out...YMMV

Raider Ronnie 08-22-2019 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1172689)
The one Iím lookin at has a 3 yr. warranty, plenty good pump for a 20 footer and a replacement for the 5 gal. bucket... :-)

Go to West marine for it and get the extended warranty.
Best $20 you can spend.
Also, no matter which style you get buy a Rule.
Their warranty policy is the best and very liberal
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wdmso 08-22-2019 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1172661)
Thanks Joe.. and Ron if I ever buy a battleship Iíll set er up just like that.... LOL ;-) and thank you...

Have I got this right,,, I turn the pump on at the helm, the pump fires off and when the pressure reaches design, the motor shuts down til the wash down hose is used... yes?

I like that if thatís the case , been on a couple boats that have switch on pump on , switch off pump off ,,, thatís it !,,,

I wonít mention who Wayne and Niko... LOL

My pressure switch works if you dont have any leaks that is :btu:

Rockfish9 08-22-2019 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1172661)
Thanks Joe.. and Ron if I ever buy a battleship Iíll set er up just like that.... LOL ;-) and thank you...

Have I got this right,,, I turn the pump on at the helm, the pump fires off and when the pressure reaches design, the motor shuts down til the wash down hose is used... yes?

I like that if thatís the case , been on a couple boats that have switch on pump on , switch off pump off ,,, thatís it !,,,

I wonít mention who Wayne and Niko... LOL

yes, once the pressure is reached is shuts down..mine is on season # 5..the plastic bladder is a little pricey at west marine, around 60 bucks, you might find it cheaper somewhere else, but IMHO, it makes a better installation.

Rockfish9 08-22-2019 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1172714)
My pressure switch works if you dont have any leaks that is :btu:

so you hear it go urmmmp.. then stop.... then urrrrmp then stop.. been there.I'm on my 3rd wash down hose, those things aint made to last.

and any hose connection below the water line should get 2 Stainless clamps

Guppy 08-22-2019 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1172714)
My pressure switch works if you dont have any leaks that is :btu:

I wonder who did the installation :huh:

Guppy 08-22-2019 04:21 PM

Went lookin in Bahston harbor today for fish to pay for it,,,
That didnít work out at all... LOL

Rockfish9 08-23-2019 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1172682)
So whatís the lifespan of These little pea squirted pumps with the pressure switch before they rust up and #^&#^&#^&#^& the bed, 1-2 years ?
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5 years and counting...installed under the console.. still looks like new....I've even run it for 6 hours straight last season when my bait pump died...

Guppy 09-05-2019 07:47 PM

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Put in the ShurFlow 4.0 gpm pump today...
It works great, then it doesn’t work great... dah
It acts like it’s s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& air, it is s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& , one minute a ton of pressure the next air mixed in ,,, WTF
No leak on the pressure side.....

It’s getting the water from the live well pump Y fitting ... the lower outlet?
Attachment 66474

That’s s u c k i n g air

Ian 09-06-2019 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1173507)
Put in the ShurFlow 4.0 gpm pump today...
It works great, then it doesnít work great... dah
It acts like itís s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& air, it is s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& , one minute a ton of pressure the next air mixed in ,,, WTF
No leak on the pressure side.....

Itís getting the water from the live well pump Y fitting ... the lower outlet?
Attachment 66474

Thatís s u c k i n g air

Do you have a value shutting off the route to the livewell pump when youíre using it? Iím not 100%, but it may be that the flow rate of the pump is creating enough pressure at the ďyĒ where youíre sharing the pickup with the livewell pump that itís pulling from both directions at that junction. Turning off the ability for it to backflow air from the livewell pump may help you at least troubleshoot the new unit.
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Guppy 09-06-2019 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 1173514)
Do you have a value shutting off the route to the livewell pump when youíre using it? Iím not 100%, but it may be that the flow rate of the pump is creating enough pressure at the ďyĒ where youíre sharing the pickup with the livewell pump that itís pulling from both directions at that junction. Turning off the ability for it to backflow air from the livewell pump may help you at least troubleshoot the new unit.
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Thought that might be it also, shut the valve in the LW tank and problem still...
the seacock with LW pump is in an impossible location, can only reach it with one hand....
this ainít going to b fun :-(

Nebe 09-06-2019 07:00 AM

This problem could be what you are experiencing in some form.

https://youtu.be/cweD5wJ6nh8
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Rockfish9 09-06-2019 08:30 AM

the bladder takes a lot of that surging and sputtering away..

piemma 09-06-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1173522)
Thought that might be it also, shut the valve in the LW tank and problem still...
the seacock with LW pump is in an impossible location, can only reach it with one hand....
this ainít going to b fun :-(

Ray, remember I had the same boat. I moved mine in the off season so I could get at it with ease.

Guppy 09-06-2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockfish9 (Post 1173538)
the bladder takes a lot of that surging and sputtering away..

Ummm, I donít get it Joe, esplane plz :-)

Guppy 09-06-2019 04:42 PM

Iím looking over at THT also

https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating...^&#^&-air.html

Wonít work,,, title includes ďs u c k i n airĒ and this site doesnít like that word....
Frustrating...

Rockfish9 09-07-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Guppy (Post 1173577)
Ummm, I donít get it Joe, esplane plz :-)

I know you are having a air / prime problem, but by installing a small bladder (plastic one was about 60bucks) it keeps a steady pressure and stops the surging, I found when I put mine in it primed a lot easier. .
I'll take some pictures of my set up next time I go down to the boat.
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Guppy 09-08-2019 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockfish9 (Post 1173642)
I know you are having a air / prime problem, but by installing a small bladder (plastic one was about 60bucks) it keeps a steady pressure and stops the surging, I found when I put mine in it primed a lot easier. .
I'll take some pictures of my set up next time I go down to the boat.
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Now I get it! Thanks


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