MOAB
nothing but a operational field test of a weapon and another PR stunt
not sure if they did this but I would of had troops on the ground 5 mins after it was dropped conducting mop up operations and intel gathering and battle damage assessments if this didn't happen what a waste of money and time just a dog and pony show The Pentagon gave no casualty totals for the bombing 36 Isis militants killed in US 'mother of all bombs' attack, Afghan ministry says One MOAB Costs $16 Million That means 16,000,000 divided by 36 = $444,444 per dead .. |
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Just a bigger version of the Daisy Cutter, which was used in AFG.
Much sizzle, little steak (well, not little perhaps) |
update Afghan Official Says 94 ISIS Fighters Killed
And i just saw this Fox News's morning show on Friday aired the video of the bombing to the sounds of Toby Keith's “Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue.” The country song, written in 2002 amid calls for military action after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks Host Ainsley Earhardt referenced the song's lyrics, saying that even though the video is in black and white, “that’s what freedom looks like, that’s the red, white and blue." Fox News commentator Geraldo Rivera noted his joy at being able to see the video of the bomb. "One of my favorite things in the 16 years I've been here at Fox News is watching bombs drop on bad guys," he said. I am disgusted by this Nationalistic chest pounding Patriotic BS by those who who have no skin in the game .. I have said it before and will say it again its all cool until they start shooting back |
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what are you talking about? Am I wrong here or did they start with cutting off heads and shooting innocent people? I am disgusted by UnAmerican whiners, don't like it, don't watch it. |
The more we bomb, the more "terrorists" we create.
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Hey . . . what's the fuss? Didn't this thread start out by saying this was "nothing but a operational field test of a weapon and another PR stunt"?
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swaying the NK's to stand down
or get moab'ed |
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Oh, wait . . . just heard on the news that the general who ordered the MOAB to be dropped said he did not need Trump's command to do it. He already had the standing authority to do so. And he has had it before Trump got elected.
So what does that mean to the narrative? Will those who hate Trump and supported Obama, and said Trump did something dastardly or stupid for dropping the bomb now say that it was a good thing, all credit to Obama, and Trump would have been too stupid to drop it? Or will those who hate Obama, but were queasy about the bomb and opposed Trump's bombing it, now feel relieved and shower Obama with all sorts of trash talk? Or will those who were ecstatic about Trump using the bomb but hated Obama now say what a horrible thing it was to drop it? Or will those who were for it and happy, not care who was responsible? Or will those who were against it, will not care who was responsible, and still call it a horrible thing? What say you, wdmso? |
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If you think that he did not ask for permission before dropping that thing your gullible. when Trump was asked during a meeting with I-85 First Responders if he had authorized the strike. “We have given them total authorization Trump can grant the authority but its still Trumps responsibility Pentagon officials say the generals have had the authority to launch whatever ordnance they had in theatre against ISIS since January last year, but President Donald Trump's comfort level with delegating new decision-making on counterterrorism strikes surely played into their thinking. General John “Mick” Nicholson ordered the weapon during the Obama Administration to use during Afghan’s fierce spring and summer “fighting season”, but it was only delivered in January this year, Salvin said. While he may have had the authority to drop the bomb, it’s likely he notified commanders above him that he was about to use the munition, but it’s not clear how high that went. “Appropriate notifications were made,” U.S. Central Command spokesman Col. John Thomas emailed Not sure how any justifies a 16mil dollar weapon to kill 100 and think it was done solely in the name defending America As for the general he say it was tactical not political ... but giving him the green light was political and strategic for the white house home and abroad |
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As for MOAB, yes that is a proper munition for caves and tunnels, no? The daisy cutter was used several times in similar situations before it was retired and replaced with this one. |
I'd like to understand what our military budget is for the year and divide it by every person on this earth that we have killed last year. I bet it's over $100,000,000.00 per human being.
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We are lucky for the past 70 years not to have a global nuclear war and relative peace. Or the think line of people that stopped the Russians from flooding ter Fulda Gap and free Europe (scary sight btw) . That required a strong military and overall decent leadership (yes - some rough patches including the one we are in and the one we just left). Maybe if the US abdicates leadership (again) and Russia and China fill that void things will be SO MUCH BETTER Think on that for a while |
I have. But to say that publicly would label me as a commie pinko.
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Actually yes you send it troops who says they need to be ours .. send in the afgans like the Iraqis it their country .. but thats the Problem and thats my issue with how fox and friends framed the attack it cool and bad ass and patriotic to watch it on TV just as long as the blood isn't our own.. thats not how it war works .. its risk VS reward the military is always running risk assessment I just dont see the White house doing the same thing |
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I don't know how war is supposed to "work." It seems that war "works" if you win it. Especially if you have total victory in which the opposition is completely destroyed. Even better, if it is completely eradicated. You may well know better than the current generals how to work the current war. But saying "dropping big bombs is not what freedom looks like" looks, to me, like a non-sequitur. It sounds more like talking about something other than war. Something like an aftermath to war, or a reason for war. If dropping big bombs leads to freedom as an aftermath, or if seeking freedom is aided by dropping big bombs, what it "looks" like is that the big bombs were well used. But your commenting on what freedom doesn't look like reminds me, once again, that your admiration for judges who do not rule on law, but rather do so on personal whim, does not look like freedom. And your agreement with centralized unlimited government aided by those judges and by unelected regulatory agencies which have plenary power to rule and regulate the citizens doesn't look like freedom either. |
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The jihadists want to murder everyone who isn't exactly like them. That includes, obviously, other, moderate Muslims. They won't stop trying to kill us until we make our women dress like ninjas and mutilate their genitalia and until we execute homosexuals. |
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France was not attacked again 1 person killed a police officer guy shoots 70 year old man on face book live if he said he supported ISIS would that constitute America attacked again this is not new for the french german or Europe : Organisation armée secrète 1961 28 killed in France there is a long list |
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http://www.businessinsider.com/real-...170-000-2017-4 "The US's Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb does not cost $314 million, or $16 million, but $170,000 a unit, the US Air Force told Business Insider on Friday. The weapon, whose acronym inspired the nickname "Mother of All Bombs," was produced by the Air Force, not by a third party like Lockheed or Boeing, "so we don't have a standard procurement cost associated with them," an Air Force official said. The $170,000 figure makes sense considering a general-purpose 1,000-pound MK-83 costs about $12,000. The MOAB simply features more high explosives and larger fins to direct the GPS-guided munition. Many outlets, including The New York Times and Business Insider, inaccurately stated the cost of the MOAB as being in the millions. Business Insider's article has since been corrected to reflect this information." |
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