Not a racist
What would people say if Elizabeth Warren had claimed to have Jewish heritage and Trump had said:
If Elizabeth Warren, often referred to by me as Marjorie Morningstar, did this commercial from Auschwitz or Buchenwald instead of her kitchen, with her husband dressed in a yarmulke, it would have been a smash! |
i see! so to you, there’s no issue with warren lying to be an ethnic minority for her own personal gain. but if trump
makes fun of her in crass sophomoric fashion, THAT bothers you. But not what she did. When warren was asked to submit an authentic cherokee recipe for an indian cookbook, she chose a crab omelette. As we all know, crabs were a staple of the diet for Oklahoma Cherokees. there’s no better crab than Oklahoma Plains crab, I always say...in fact, when the university of oklahoma needed to pick a mascot, it came down to sooners and hard shells. trump=bad, we get it. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
Not the point, Trump makes fun of anyone who calls him out and far to many of his personal attacks are completely inappropriate. Disabled, life long patriot, prisoner of war, it matters little to Trump, civility, respect and decorum are not words he lives by. He lessons the position of president with each and every tweet.
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As proof he did not restrict blacks and Hispanics from getting jobs Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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And, BTW, those early pols weren't exactly the most civil, respectful, and decorous politicians whoever "respected" their office. There was a lot of hate and vituperation cast at one another, as was done in the flaming press of that time. Aaron Burr, a sitting Vice President, fought a duel and killed one of the most famous and "respected" founders, Hamilton. |
This whole thread is going to go swirling down the "Stupid Hole" real quick.
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trump is a jerk. and the left doesn’t give a rats azz about minorities, unless it’s pilitically advantageous to do so. i’ve ripped into trump many times, i thought this time he was hilarious, and you’d be hard pressed to find a more deserving target. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
Wounded Knee was one of the worst native massacres in US history.
Native Americans have decried Mr Trump's language, calling it insensitive and racist. And the usual suspects rush in to run defense with absurd comparisons |
He declared himself a nationalist how can that be construed as racist😳
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quick? it began with post #1 then again, I am not apprised of Trumps' latest tweet, insult or outrage of the day so I don't care, Trump does not live in my head and I don't look for these things, they do however show up on this forum daily. |
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massacre of native americans was the trail of tears. liz warren isn’t descended from cherokee’s, but she is deacended from someone who was an enforcer on the Trail If Tears. then she seizes for herself the sympathy we have for these people, for her own profit. and you don’t care. all that offends you, is the brashness of Trumps criticism ofbher cultural theft. do you object to what warren did at all? pray to god she gets the nomination, trump wouldn’t even have to campaign. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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And any unwritten yet perceived idea of presidential conduct could only be derived from how Presidents have acted in the past. There have been several potty mouthed or disrespectful or indecorous Presidents in the past. Trump is not some outlier in that respect. He may even be more respectful than others. When he is not attacked, he is civil, and respectful. Many of those who know him personally attest that he is very civilized. And, apparently it's OK with you when in this forum Trump is accused of "unprecedented" behavior, or of telling more lies than any past President. Those time machines are OK. I found this in something called: Code of Ethics for US Government Service: "Is There a Presidential Code of Ethics? While the elected members of Congress have chosen to adopt their own code of ethics, the President of the United States, as an elected rather than hired or appointed representatives of the people, is not subject to any specific statute or rule governing his or her ethical conduct. While they are subject to civil suit and criminal prosecution for violations of common laws, presidents are generally immune from punishment for conduct related to their official acts. In other words, presidents are generally free to lie or misrepresent facts, as long as they do not intentionally defame any specific person or persons in doing so. In fact, the only the only practical remedies to unethical conduct on the part of the president are the constant vigilance of a well-informed public, congressional oversight, and ultimately the threat of impeachment for 'high crimes and misdemeanors.' ” So, unless he can be accused of "intentionally defaming" someone (for which he could be sued for libel--which has not happened), how has he lessened the position of President. |
There was acceptable treatment of native Americans, blacks and women in the past in which you love to visit, times change and the bar had been raised thankfully, maybe it’s time for us to expect more of our potus.
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You guys....there is no such thing as loathsome behavior, unless it's Trump. Everyone else gets a pass, at least everyone with a 'D' after their name. |
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He outdid himself tonight with the spread he put out for the Clemson Tigers! A lot of family favorites Ricky Bobby style.
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How is it expecting more of the POTUS if he/she is limited in personal ways to act and express? This sounds like some ancient prescription for Royal etiquette. The Queen must not say certain words. It would be unseemly and shocking. |
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I was told i was irish , french canadian, english , and indian who know whats true or false Warren cultural Theft .... what a joke but trumps comments were just brashness... you talk alot about others Hate.. you need to look in the mirror on the topic of hate when it come to Warren |
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When you and Spence reply with "wrong, that's a joke", with absolutely zero supporting evidence, we all know that you are desperately grasping at straws. But for the sake of argument, can you explain why she isn't guilty of cultural theft? She claimed to be Native American when applying for a $400,000-a-year job at Harvard, which she got, and for which Harvard advertised that she was a Native American professor. When asked to provide an authentic Oklahoma Cherokee recipe for a Native American cookbook, she chose a crab omelette. There are two choices here...(1) Warren is stupid enough to honestly believe that crabs were a staple of the diet of the Oklahoma Cherokees, or (2) she's a fraud. There is no third option, so I'd love it if you tell me which you think it is. "you need to look in the mirror on the topic of hate when it come to Warren" I happily concede that I hate Elizabeth Warren, and that I pray with all my heart that she gets the nomination. If she gets the nomination, the GOP could nominate Pol Pot and win. |
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Do you blame the women being raped south of the border ? if they never made the trip they put themselves at risk Ps Spence and I provide plenty of supporting evidence. Your upset because the facts i do not support your many dubious non factual claims In 1984, Warren contributed five recipes to a Native American cookbook entitled “Pow Wow Chow: Wow your using a 34 year old cook book for your arguments how sad is that Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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LMAO. Is there a law that says you can't switch topics? You called it a joke that people accuse Warren of cultural theft, I merely asked you to defend that. And you can't. "Do you blame the women being raped south of the border ?" Wait, I thought this was about Trump's comments and that we weren't allowed to stray from that topic? Since you asked, I will answer (a courtesy you don't show me), no, I don't blame the women, they are the victims. "Ps Spence and I provide plenty of supporting evidence" OK, show me the evidence that Warren didn't defraud Harvard. |
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/dəˈfrôd/Submit verb illegally obtain money from (someone) by deception. Did Harvard pay her for being an Indian .. or to teach? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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are you seriously going to say, that warren had no incentive to lie on her application? that claimingnto be a native american, wouldn’t give her a better chance of getting the job? you deny this? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
Jim, you do realize that the Cherokee tribes didn’t originally come from Oklahoma right?
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