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Jackbass 09-13-2015 07:22 PM

Obama
 
Will win his second Nobel Peace Prize. What a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing joke

spence 09-13-2015 07:34 PM

Ummmmm....

The Dad Fisherman 09-13-2015 07:45 PM

Must be a slow year in the Peace Department.

Nebe 09-13-2015 07:49 PM

its Bush's fault.
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Fly Rod 09-13-2015 08:09 PM

I thougt he was winning the.... "Gold Flying Fickle Finger of Fate award ."....how many remember that?.........:)

justplugit 09-13-2015 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1081526)
its Bush's fault.
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LOL Nebe, I never get tired of that post of yours. :)

Raider Ronnie 09-14-2015 05:12 AM

Who cares.
Less than 500 days till we are rid of the pos
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PaulS 09-14-2015 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1081539)
Who cares.
Less than 500 days till we are rid of the pos
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Classy

spence 09-14-2015 09:03 AM

I actually read that they're considering changing the name to the Obama Peace Prize and are going to give Barak the first one.

Nebe 09-14-2015 09:38 AM

As opposed to the Chenny death prize
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JohnR 09-14-2015 11:10 AM

By any stretch the last 6.5 years have not been better than the previous 8 on the global stage.

Difference between a D- and an E+ between Bush and Obama. Sucks any way you slice it but we have gotten worse with these guys at the helm.

Nebe 09-14-2015 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1081565)
By any stretch the last 6.5 years have not been better than the previous 8 on the global stage.

Difference between a D- and an E+ between Bush and Obama. Sucks any way you slice it but we have gotten worse with these guys at the helm.

Are you talking about "peace" ?
You smoking crack today john?
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spence 09-14-2015 12:30 PM

I can't believe nobody has remarked the peace prize story from the OP is fake.

Nebe 09-14-2015 12:57 PM

Where's the link?
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The Dad Fisherman 09-14-2015 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 1081527)
I thougt he was winning the.... "Gold Flying Fickle Finger of Fate award ."....how many remember that?.........:)

I Do.....ugh....I'm officially old.

Laugh In
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JohnR 09-15-2015 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1081570)
Are you talking about "peace" ?
You smoking crack today john?
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Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.

The wars of the last 30 years? Puhleaze. Those are mere skirmishes, dust ups, and bad times. No disrespect whatsoever to those that have done their duty and fought in some of the most challenging times since Vietnam.

No, today, we are closer to a massive global war at any time since the 1980s, except things are less table than in the 1980s, and in many ways reminiscent in the posturing & turmoil of the 1910s and 1930s.

spence 09-15-2015 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1081652)
Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.

But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?

A huge problem here is we started a war without a game plan for when the big gears started to turn.

Nebe 09-15-2015 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1081652)
Peace? Where? We are closer to real war today then any time since the 1980s.

The wars of the last 30 years? Puhleaze. Those are mere skirmishes, dust ups, and bad times. No disrespect whatsoever to those that have done their duty and fought in some of the most challenging times since Vietnam.

No, today, we are closer to a massive global war at any time since the 1980s, except things are less table than in the 1980s, and in many ways reminiscent in the posturing & turmoil of the 1910s and 1930s.

It's Bush's fault
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justplugit 09-15-2015 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1081565)
By any stretch the last 6.5 years have not been better than the previous 8 on the global stage.

Global and Domestic issues, the economy, divisions among us, transparency,trust in our leaders.
Best question ever for the middle class, " are you better off now than you were
6.5 years ago in all these issues?

JohnR 09-15-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1081653)
But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?

A huge problem here is we started a war without a game plan for when the big gears started to turn.

You silly goose. The US, both Dem and Rep parties, responsibly worked together for decades to balance and contain the global brushfires. The reason there were no Mega-Trends is that they were mostly held in check. The biggest destabilizer from the 40s to the 80s, was who? Your socialist workers paradise comrades. Who kept them (mostly) in check? More sensible people from the USA. Yes it was fustercluck but was generally a workable fustercluck.

The last 20 (25?) years have been awful - toss Jimmah Carters time in there too.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1081654)
It's Bush's fault
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Carter, Clinton, Bush, and Obama wraps it up in a bow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1081663)
Global and Domestic issues, the economy, divisions among us, transparency,trust in our leaders.
Best question ever for the middle class, " are you better off now than you were
6.5 years ago in all these issues?

I am better off financially but that be about it. The world and the USA is less stable now than it was a decade ago.

The Dad Fisherman 09-16-2015 05:44 AM

Well.....at least Race Relations are steadily improving under him, maybe that's why he's getting it :rolleyes:

Raven 09-16-2015 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1081539)
Who cares.
Less than 500 days till we are rid of the pos
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

wishing we had a countdown clock

then there should be a tremendous celebration

RIROCKHOUND 09-16-2015 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven (Post 1081710)
wishing we had a countdown clock

then there should be a tremendous celebration

So who does the ganja infused farmer support?

Sea Dangles 09-16-2015 03:15 PM

That is like asking who the tree hugging teacher supports
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RIROCKHOUND 09-16-2015 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1081760)
That is like asking who the tree hugging teacher supports
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Directed at me?

Biden if he runs or Webb if he ever gets traction. Biden was my initial choice in the pre 2008 primaries

Jim in CT 09-17-2015 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1081541)
Classy

Sorry, when Obama goes on TV and says "Republicans gotta stop just hatin' all the time", then he forfeits his right to any respect or courtesy from the other side. You reap what you sow, Paul.

Sea Dangles 09-17-2015 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1081785)
Directed at me?

Biden if he runs or Webb if he ever gets traction. Biden was my initial choice in the pre 2008 primaries

Ah,Biden
Isn't he the one who said"Stand up Chuck,let em see ya"?

This was directed towards Chuck Graham. A state senator in a wheelchair.
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Jim in CT 09-17-2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1081653)
But how much of this is really mega-trends shifting geopolitics rather than US policy?

A huge problem here is we started a war without a game plan for when the big gears started to turn.

Bush eventually (too late, but better than never) did have a plan. It was called The Surge. It was an astonishing, spectacular, success. Listen to Obama's own remarks about the Iraq he inherited.

So your synopsis is wrong. The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria.

RIROCKHOUND 09-17-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1081810)
So your synopsis is wrong. The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria.

The Surge undoubtedly worked in the short-term. Do you feel the military could have sustained that level of effort there, and for how long? Would that make Iraq any more stable? Add to that sending ground-forces en masse to Libya and Syria? You certainly had your Neo-Con Wheaties this morning!

spence 09-17-2015 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1081810)
Bush eventually (too late, but better than never) did have a plan. It was called The Surge. It was an astonishing, spectacular, success. Listen to Obama's own remarks about the Iraq he inherited.

So your synopsis is wrong. The problem is that Obama demolished that plan by pulling out, and by pulling out of Libya and of not doing anything in Syria.

I mean strategically they had no plan beyond removing Saddam. Not for Iraq or for the region.

The Surge was a tactic, it was a response to the situation at a point in time.


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