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Jim in CT 09-09-2021 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1213880)
It's not, but then you know no one should be arguing that all hesitancy is driven by Trump and there are no other causes.

It is hard to not notice this correlation...

and if vaccine hesitancy was correlated with state, you’d have a point. but again, there are other variables more correlated. race and education are the big ones.

how come you didn’t show a chart showing vaccination by race or education? is it because that chart wouldn’t make republicans look bad?
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Jim in CT 09-09-2021 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1213880)
It's not, but then you know no one should be arguing that all hesitancy is driven by Trump and there are no other causes.

It is hard to not notice this correlation...

your map shows a very high vaccination rate in CT. but the vaccination rates among blacks in CT, is low.

don’t cherry pick, you’re the one guy on that side who knows better.
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RIROCKHOUND 09-09-2021 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213883)
and if vaccine hesitancy was correlated with state, you’d have a point. but again, there are other variables more correlated. race and education are the big ones.

how come you didn’t show a chart showing vaccination by race or education? is it because that chart wouldn’t make republicans look bad?
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Because I agreed with your point that those two populations don't relate to Trump/GOP hesitancy.
Race and education are two big ones I don't think those are the only to variables out there. Are you trying to say that the reason Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia Wyoming and Idaho are the lowest on that map because of race and an abundance of hesitant PhD's?

Jim in CT 09-09-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1213880)
It's not, but then you know no one should be arguing that all hesitancy is driven by Trump and there are no other causes.

It is hard to not notice this correlation...

63% of the state of CT is vaccinated, but among blacks, it’s only 43%.

https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about...9&publicId=395
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Jim in CT 09-09-2021 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1213885)
Because I agreed with your point that those two populations don't relate to Trump/GOP hesitancy.
Race and education are two big ones I don't think those are the only to variables out there. Are you trying to say that the reason Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia Wyoming and Idaho are the lowest on that map because of race and an abundance of hesitant PhD's?

if you don’t think they’re the only two variables, you have to do a multivariate look, not a univariate look, to find the other variables. come on.

the study i posted is just for CT, by race.

wdmso said republicans are politicizing the vaccine. you posted a map of trump voters. But try to follow me here…

TRUMP IS A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR VACCINES.

Kamala Harris was the one who said she wouldn’t take it, if trump said to take it. Well, trump is saying to take it. So if anyone is persuading blacks not to take it, it’s Kamala Harris. She said not to take it if trump suggested we take it.

et tu, Brian? the one guy i expect better from.
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wdmso 09-09-2021 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213878)
trump was president when the vaccine was created. trump
said today everyone should get vaccinated.

FACT - two of the groups with the lowest vaccination rates are blacks and people with PhDs. those are not people who take their marching orders from republicans, last time i checked.

how is it the fault of republicans, that blacks and college professors are hesitant to get vaccinated? i just can’t wait to hear your answer to that one. good luck.
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Jim here we go again.. with the blacks There are about twice as many Republicans as there are Black people in the United States

It estimates that Black Americans make up about 13 percent of the population and 13 percent of the group that says it will never receive a dose of the vaccine. Republicans, by contrast, make up more than half of each group, including nearly 6 in 10 of those who say they won’t get vaccinated.

the PHD thing another red herring https://www.wnct.com/news/north-caro...-among-ph-d-s/

Jim in CT 09-09-2021 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1213880)
It's not, but then you know no one should be arguing that all hesitancy is driven by Trump and there are no other causes.

It is hard to not notice this correlation...

ANd of course there's some correlation. There's a certain kind of paranoid irrational person, who will never do anytihng the federal government says to do. The overwhelming majority of those (sad to say) are Republicans, and no they don't have PhDs, you got me there.

scottw 09-10-2021 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213888)

TRUMP IS A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR VACCINES.

if I recall he was one of the first to tout the vaccinations get vaccinated...but it's the people that do whatever he says that won't get vaccinated?...makes sense...remember the democrat who poisoned and I think killed her husband with fish tank cleaner because Trump told her it would prevent covid and possibly long marriages?...that was great

Kamala Harris was the one who said she wouldn’t take it,

Kamala, Biden, Cuomo and other influential leftists...they had serious concerns about the exact same vaccine they'd now like to mandate...it's so funy how that works

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we need the media lying more and running phony stories about things like ivermectin so that leftists can puff out their chest and mock people who don't share their views for taking things like "horse dewormers".... and stuff...because it's never been used in humans...only horses...right?...:kewl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cKkOZevNaQ&t=309s

scottw 09-10-2021 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1213825)

The egging of politicians is a well-known form of protest

Look it up it’s a historic fact

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and therefore, you support it?.....or only for certain throwers and certain targets? and is it therefore ok to throw other stuff at people you might disagree with?

wdmso 09-10-2021 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1213903)
and therefore, you support it?.....or only for certain throwers and certain targets? and is it therefore ok to throw other stuff at people you might disagree with?

Where you get support it ? I wouldn’t do it but I do support non violent forms of protest . [ and if it’s a criminal act she should be arrested ) Or do you consider throwing an egg an act of violence , but yet the capital rioters were unarmed ?


It’s just odd an egg thrower in a gorilla mask seems to provoke more outrage than a horned guy marching Thru the capital bldg
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wdmso 09-10-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1213902)
we need the media lying more and running phony stories about things like ivermectin so that leftists can puff out their chest and mock people who don't share their views for taking things like "horse dewormers".... and stuff...because it's never been used in humans...only horses...right?...:kewl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cKkOZevNaQ&t=309s



Every thinks fake and made up in the world .. unless it comes off you tube or from the mouth of conservatives ….

Because it’s never been used in humans right

The right used Same lame excuse with hydroxychloroquine and once again is doing it with ivermectin .
Yes they are both used for parasite not COVID 19

Anyone see a pattern

Lies good Truth bad ..
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Jim in CT 09-10-2021 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1213917)
Where you get support it ? I wouldn’t do it but I do support non violent forms of protest . [ and if it’s a criminal act she should be arrested ) Or do you consider throwing an egg an act of violence , but yet the capital rioters were unarmed ?


It’s just odd an egg thrower in a gorilla mask seems to provoke more outrage than a horned guy marching Thru the capital bldg
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nope. what’s bothersome, is that liberals aren’t reacting to Elder getting egged, the way they would have reacted if it were Obama or any black democrat.

You deny that?
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Jim in CT 09-10-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1213917)
Where you get support it ? I wouldn’t do it but I do support non violent forms of protest . [ and if it’s a criminal act she should be arrested ) Or do you consider throwing an egg an act of violence , but yet the capital rioters were unarmed ?


It’s just odd an egg thrower in a gorilla mask seems to provoke more outrage than a horned guy marching Thru the capital bldg
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so in your list above, you ask scott “where he gets” the idea that you support throwing eggs.

then you say you support non violent protests, then question why scott would consider why throwing violent? and if it’s not violent, you said you support it.

so you ask scott where he got the idea that you’d support it, then you immediately say you support it.

scott and i have also said explicitly, that the january 6 trespassers and rioters should be charged to the fullest extent of the law. so i don’t know where you get the idea that we’re in favor of letting them off.
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scottw 09-10-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1213919)
Every thinks fake and made up in the world .. unless it comes off you tube or from the mouth of conservatives ….

Because it’s never been used in humans right

The right used Same lame excuse with hydroxychloroquine and once again is doing it with ivermectin .
Yes they are both used for parasite not COVID 19

Anyone see a pattern

Lies good Truth bad ..
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You know it’s not “the right” that has lied about ivermectin…right…you should be more open minded 😊
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spence 09-10-2021 01:14 PM

Wait, how does Jim know the egg throwers are Democrats???

scottw 09-10-2021 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1213931)
Wait, how does Jim know the egg throwers are Democrats???

eggs, urine, feces....look it up...it's a historical fact

Pete F. 09-10-2021 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1213937)
eggs, urine, feces....look it up...it's a historical fact

Sounds more like a conservative fetish, though you left out cuckholding.
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wdmso 09-10-2021 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1213929)
You know it’s not “the right” that has lied about ivermectin…right…you should be more open minded 😊
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it not the right that has lied really how so ? can't wait to hear ..please let me know what information I am missing :huh:

wdmso 09-10-2021 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213921)
nope. what’s bothersome, is that liberals aren’t reacting to Elder getting egged, the way they would have reacted if it were Obama or any black democrat.

You deny that?
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you do know the egg missed correct so it was an attempted egging




and is throwing an egg an act of violence? or considered Armed

I am confused but the Right clearly feels the Jan 6th rioters were not Armed ..


But but Obama really

spence 09-10-2021 08:46 PM

I'm just going to but this down gently.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...xTtPFLpes700i4

scottw 09-11-2021 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1213945)
I'm just going to but this down gently.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...xTtPFLpes700i4

sounds like he'd make a great politician...and...

Newsome is such a fabulous human being it would be a shame to replace him with a black white supremacist

and...

butt this NEVER-EVER happens in liberal/leftist politics and media:hihi:

"Choosing self-serving, conflict-driven entertainment and ratings over subtlety and intellectual honesty is what (conservative) media does all too often, and it’s become required in (conservative) politics, too"

wdmso 09-11-2021 06:14 AM

it interesting in California Newsom's got 61.9 percent of the Vote

To qualify a recall of the Governor for the ballot, proponents need a minimum of 1,495,709 valid petition signatures. This is equal to 12 percent of the votes cast for the office of Governor in 2018, which is the last time the office was on the ballot.

WOW talk about abuse of power and defranching voters

a side note Elder was Steven Millers mentor. what a Peach yet Trump won't endorse him or give him any of that money he's been grifting from his Cult..

However he is the newest darling of the right . whom most had no idea who he was until they were told they should

detbuch 09-11-2021 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1213954)

However he is the newest darling of the right . whom most had no idea who he was until they were told they should

Did you just make this up? The "right" has been aware of Elder for a long time. He is not the newest "darling". And he's way smarter and more aware of the lies, deceptions, and agendas of the left than you.

scottw 09-11-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1213954)

WOW talk about abuse of power and defranching voters

WTF?

Got Stripers 09-11-2021 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1213967)
WTF?

^^^you are in fact hilarious, math isn’t your strong suit we understand

The Dad Fisherman 09-11-2021 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1213967)
WTF?

Defranching must be the pass back.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...term=Franching

****Definitely NSFW****
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scottw 09-11-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1213975)
Defranching must be the pass back.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...term=Franching

****Definitely NSFW****
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I wasn't even referring to the spelling...there is apparently a process in place in California for recall of a governor....suddenly leftist and the party of impeachment has determined the process or laws may be "unconstitutional" and/or "defranching" and/or "abuse of power"...and in all likelihood ...extremely racist.....and in desperate need of reform. we've seen this before....

spence 09-11-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1213888)
TRUMP IS A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR VACCINES.
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I think I’ve heard Trump suggest recently just once to get vaccinated and for that he got booed.

scottw 09-11-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1213979)
I think I’ve heard Trump suggest recently just once to get vaccinated and for that he got booed.

I heard he loves the poorly vaccinated....

scottw 09-11-2021 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1213972)

math isn’t your strong suit we understand

only when I run out of fingers....

spence 09-11-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1213981)
I heard he loves the poorly vaccinated....

He loves to take advantage of them.

wdmso 09-12-2021 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1213978)
I wasn't even referring to the spelling...there is apparently a process in place in California for recall of a governor....suddenly leftist and the party of impeachment has determined the process or laws may be "unconstitutional" and/or "defranching" and/or "abuse of power"...and in all likelihood ...extremely racist.....and in desperate need of reform. we've seen this before....

We saw it in every Republican state after trump lost

And who ever claimed it was unconstitutional. The same thing happened when Arnold got elected It’s clearly a crazy process and even crazier in liberal state ..
To have such a low bar to reverse or remove someone ,voted into office with the majority of Votes that’s not taking away voters power at the ballot box ..


Not much different then our 50 50 senate

if you add up the population of states and assign half to each of their two senators, “the Democratic half of the Senate represents 41,549,808 million more people than the Republican half.”

Fairness isn’t in the Rights best interest
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wdmso 09-12-2021 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1213960)
Did you just make this up? The "right" has been aware of Elder for a long time. He is not the newest "darling". And he's way smarter and more aware of the lies, deceptions, and agendas of the left than you.

Outside your bubble no one ever heard of him or cared till now unless maybe you lived in California

He is a entertainer who pours the honey of lies and conspiracy and outrage into his audiences ears , who like yourself . Who are convinced what he is exposing are the lies and deceptions and agendas you have all created in your heads … Communism socialism Marxism and liberalism are out to destroy Americanism

Your a cash cow nothing more nothing less even Trump understands the business model of the rights outrage machine ..and is cleaning house like a traveling tent preacher
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wdmso 09-12-2021 08:32 AM

Jim what’s worst having an egg thrown at you ? How about a shoe ? or being accused by the other party you are not an American your a Muslim and where is your Birth certificate and repeated the same lie with the current
VP one is clearly more outrageous then the other but both tasteless
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detbuch 09-12-2021 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1214004)
Outside your bubble no one ever heard of him or cared till now unless maybe you lived in California

I live in an awfully large bubble. Most in my large bubble knew about Elder, just as we knew about your bubble's favorite "darlings". Your bubble, of course, is smaller. Probably why you didn't know about him.

He is a entertainer who pours the honey of lies and conspiracy and outrage into his audiences ears , who like yourself . Who are convinced what he is exposing are the lies and deceptions and agendas you have all created in your heads … Communism socialism Marxism and liberalism are out to destroy Americanism

He is many things, including entrepreneur, businessman, commentator, writer, political activist, among others. He can be entertaining when he speaks, although his intent is more serious than mere entertainment. He, like Thomas Sowell, is data driven. He doesn't merely make stuff up. Facts and data are what moved him to so-called libertarian conservatism.

As for what's in my head, Progressivism was founded on the notion that traditional Americanism was outdated. That the Constitution was not only outdated, but an actual impediment to good government. And as for communism, socialism, and Marxism, they most certainly are destructive of founding American principles. And I am concerned with the misuse of language in general and of words specifically. And I think about and enjoy golf. And many, many other things.

The "liberalism", to which you refer, is a different linguistic animal. The word, as is commonly used in current political discourse, is a victim of sloppy, situational usage. Actual classical liberalism is "a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise." Current political so-called liberalism is "the holding of political views that are socially progressive and promote social welfare." It is the political creation of those like the founders of Progressivism which determines what rights are and to whom they belong. For them, there is no unalienable right.


Your a cash cow nothing more nothing less even Trump understands the business model of the rights outrage machine ..and is cleaning house like a traveling tent preacher
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I'm a cash cow alright, but not for Trump. Lots of my cash goes into the unlimited, bankrupt, government spending. I know, I know, both parties do it. Thanks to the Progressive breach of constitutional limitations.

scottw 09-12-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1214005)

Jim what’s worst having an egg thrown at you ? How about a shoe ?

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Depends on what size
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scottw 09-12-2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1214003)
We saw it in every Republican state after trump lost

And who ever claimed it was unconstitutional. The same thing happened when Arnold got elected It’s clearly a crazy process and even crazier in liberal state ..
To have such a low bar to reverse or remove someone ,voted into office with the majority of Votes that’s not taking away voters power at the ballot box ..


Not much different then our 50 50 senate

if you add up the population of states and assign half to each of their two senators, “the Democratic half of the Senate represents 41,549,808 million more people than the Republican half.”

Fairness isn’t in the Rights best interest
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I’d respond but I have no idea what you are talking about….
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Got Stripers 09-13-2021 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1213960)
Did you just make this up? The "right" has been aware of Elder for a long time. He is not the newest "darling". And he's way smarter and more aware of the lies, deceptions, and agendas of the left than you.

So the right put this guy up in a blue state loaded with immigrants and promotes eliminating the minimum wage? Looking like he isn’t like to win so in true Trump a*ss kissing fashion he is already threatening lawsuits over voter fraud.

detbuch 09-13-2021 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1214060)
So the right put this guy up in a blue state loaded with immigrants and promotes eliminating the minimum wage? Looking like he isn’t like to win so in true Trump a*ss kissing fashion he is already threatening lawsuits over voter fraud.

Sounds about right.

Pete F. 09-13-2021 09:08 PM

And the gaslighting starts with the same playbook as the leader of the Republicans
Before there are any results from the recall, Elder’s campaign is promoting a petition “demanding a special session of the California legislature to investigate and ameliorate the twisted results of this 2021 Recall Election of Governor Gavin Newsom."
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