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UserRemoved1 08-15-2010 11:17 AM

The end of the American dream?
 
Jobless millions signal death of the American dream for many | World news | The Observer


US unemployment: Don't let the elite pass the buck | Business | The Observer

Two good reads...

Joe 08-15-2010 03:20 PM

Why can't they put a grow room in the basement or do some insurance fraud? People have no imagination.

striperman36 08-15-2010 03:29 PM

Unfortunately, it is a picture even here in New England.

UserRemoved1 08-15-2010 03:32 PM

eh? no comprende :rotf2:

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 788130)
Why can't they put a grow room in the basement or do some insurance fraud? People have no imagination.


Joe 08-15-2010 04:35 PM

If you're 58, and you have been looking for someone to hire you for three years, and getting no takers....at what point does the light bulb go off? Maybe it's time to try something else? Illegal aliens come here with lint in their pockets and get their own lawn services in a shorter time.

UserRemoved1 08-15-2010 04:39 PM

eh? no comprende anglais :rotf2:

buckman 08-15-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 788141)
If you're 58, and you have been looking for someone to hire you for three years, and getting no takers....at what point does the light bulb go off? Maybe it's time to try something else? Illegal aliens come here with lint in their pockets and get their own lawn services in a shorter time.

Lawn service at 58? Damn Joe, you're one cold bastard. Are you sure your not a Republican?

Joe 08-15-2010 07:01 PM

The lady that cleans my house crawled out of a Brazilian slum and now makes about $700 a week.

UserRemoved1 08-16-2010 04:48 AM

niiiice

they hiring? :devil2:

Karl F 08-16-2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 788164)
The lady that cleans my house crawled out of a Brazilian slum and now makes about $700 a week.

i know of one like that too, and when the 1099's started showing up, she was so peesed.. "imagine dat, deses peoples expect me to pay taxes!!"... very insulted she was.... so she raised her rates, and offers discounts to those that forgo the ... "paperwork"..

what a country

buckman 08-16-2010 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl F (Post 788221)
i know of one like that too, and when the 1099's started showing up, she was so peesed.. "imagine dat, deses peoples expect me to pay taxes!!"... very insulted she was.... so she raised her rates, and offers discounts to those that forgo the ... "paperwork"..

what a country

The Greek pizza shops perfected the cash system years ago.:rotf2:

Joe 08-16-2010 07:53 AM

That's why they're called 'illegals' because everything about them is illegal. It's easy enough to drop the people giving you tax docs. Getting a replacement client is easier than, say, prostituting yourself to raise plane fare to leave Brazil.

The IRS audits pizza places by raw material bought and then charges them an approximation - with fines and penalties, of course. I ran into my pizza guy at Sam's Club - he with buying a ton flour with a huge roll of cash. I guess that's how he gets around that - by keeping the reported income at a level reasonably derived from the cost of goods sold - while buying the bulk of his flour in cash at Sam's, so he can pocket the rest.

The only people really paying the correct amount of tax are wage earners, honest people, and people who have found a way to barely pay any and still be on the right side of the law.

RIJIMMY 08-16-2010 08:06 AM

I like the new Joe.
This country is full of opportunity for those willing to work for it. I've said this a 1000 times - i live in a nive neighborhood of working families. Since this economic downturn and all the sob stories no one has ever come by offering to move my lawn, shovel my driveway for $20 or something. If I was unemployed, I'd be collecting unemployement and going door to door. 5 lawns or driveways a day is $100 which will feed my family. Or giving us some spending moeny to catch a movie or something. Our schools are failing us, people have NO CLUE what Americans have gone through the last 200 years. we never had it so good.

spence 08-16-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 788244)
I like the new Joe.
This country is full of opportunity for those willing to work for it. I've said this a 1000 times - i live in a nive neighborhood of working families. Since this economic downturn and all the sob stories no one has ever come by offering to move my lawn, shovel my driveway for $20 or something. If I was unemployed, I'd be collecting unemployement and going door to door. 5 lawns or driveways a day is $100 which will feed my family. Or giving us some spending moeny to catch a movie or something. Our schools are failing us, people have NO CLUE what Americans have gone through the last 200 years. we never had it so good.

Funny.

When my step-son was in high school I used to make him mow the lawn. The neighbor needed his yard mowed as well, so I told him he could use my mower and gas for free to earn the 20 bucks the neighbor would pay. It's a tiny lawn and takes about 10 minutes to do.

He's home from college so on Saturday I ask him to mow the lawns before his mom comes home from the hospital. After grumbling about it he proceeds to just mow ours and leave the neighbors looking like crap.

20 bucks for 10 minutes easy work left sitting on the table. What a dumb a$$.

-spence

Joe 08-16-2010 08:17 AM

I'm the same Joe as I've always been. I feel the same as Warren Buffet - democracy works best when it is within the framework of a meritocracy. Wage earners and trust fund babies should have an equal tax burden - all the way up to the top tier.

UserRemoved1 08-16-2010 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 788240)
That's why they're called 'illegals' because everything about them is illegal. It's easy enough to drop the people giving you tax docs. Getting a replacement client is easier than, say, prostituting yourself to raise plane fare to leave Brazil.

The only people really paying the correct amount of tax are wage earners, honest people, and people who have found a way to barely pay any and still be on the right side of the law.

That pretty much sums up the fishing lure business these days.

Joe 08-16-2010 08:42 AM

Online sales makes people honest.....it's hard to hide how much you made when an income statement can be generated with three clicks.

UserRemoved1 08-16-2010 08:46 AM

you'd think...

Joe 08-16-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 788280)
Funny.

When my step-son was in high school I used to make him mow the lawn. The neighbor needed his yard mowed as well, so I told him he could use my mower and gas for free to earn the 20 bucks the neighbor would pay. It's a tiny lawn and takes about 10 minutes to do.

He's home from college so on Saturday I ask him to mow the lawns before his mom comes home from the hospital. After grumbling about it he proceeds to just mow ours and leave the neighbors looking like crap.

20 bucks for 10 minutes easy work left sitting on the table. What a dumb a$$.

-spence

Maybe he just hates you and everything about you, and refusing to do the other lawn is a passive-aggressive expression the rage he harbors. Fake a heart attack and see if he calls it in right away, or decides to wait.

fishbones 08-16-2010 09:41 AM

I wish I could find someone to mow my lawn for $20. I thought I was getting a pretty good deal at $40.

RIJIMMY 08-16-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 788304)
I wish I could find someone to mow my lawn for $20. I thought I was getting a pretty good deal at $40.

you should get off your butt and mow it yourself :love:

fishbones 08-16-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 788323)
you should get off your butt and mow it yourself :love:

It takes me 2 1/2 hours to do it myself. I don't have that much free time. Besides, I'm helping the economy by paying someone else to do it.

JohnnyD 08-16-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 788331)
It takes me 2 1/2 hours to do it myself. I don't have that much free time. Besides, I'm helping the economy by paying someone else to do it.

Not when that money is sent to Mexico.

UserRemoved1 08-16-2010 03:43 PM

BRAZIL :smash: :hee:

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 788403)
Not when that money is sent to Mexico.


fishbones 08-16-2010 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 788403)
Not when that money is sent to Mexico.

Nah, my guy's legit. He gives me a real invoice and makes me make the check out to the name of his landscaping company. He also plows during the winter. You don't see many Mexican snow plow drivers. Besides, he lives on my street and we don't allow any immigrants, whether they're legal or not in my neighborhood. It decreases property values.

Goose 08-16-2010 03:50 PM

p u, your sugar honey ice tea stinks too

TheSpecialist 08-16-2010 04:05 PM

:rotf2:


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Originally Posted by Goose (Post 788414)
p u, your sugar honey ice tea stinks too


JohnnyD 08-16-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 788412)
Nah, my guy's legit. He gives me a real invoice and makes me make the check out to the name of his landscaping company. He also plows during the winter. You don't see many Mexican snow plow drivers. Besides, he lives on my street and we don't allow any immigrants, whether they're legal or not in my neighborhood. It decreases property values.

:claps: Well played sir... well played.

Bronko 08-17-2010 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 788280)
Funny.

When my step-son was in high school I used to make him mow the lawn. The neighbor needed his yard mowed as well, so I told him he could use my mower and gas for free to earn the 20 bucks the neighbor would pay. It's a tiny lawn and takes about 10 minutes to do.

He's home from college so on Saturday I ask him to mow the lawns before his mom comes home from the hospital. After grumbling about it he proceeds to just mow ours and leave the neighbors looking like crap.

20 bucks for 10 minutes easy work left sitting on the table. What a dumb a$$.

-spence

Anyone else see the irony in this post?

scottw 08-17-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronko (Post 788526)
Anyone else see the irony in this post?

reaping/sowing:uhuh: lazy DUMBA$$ even at $120 an hour.....probably expects the government to take care of the neighbor's lawn...
congrats on the little one Spence, sounds like you won't get much help with the diapers from the sibling...


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