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wdmso 10-27-2019 08:09 AM

US raid against Islamic State
 
There are unconfirmed reports of a US raid against Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

The raid was carried out by US special operations forces after they received "actionable intelligence",

The info came from the Kurds how Ironic , clearly a good thing if he is dead..

But i find the timing odd ..
Cant wait to see what the quid pro quo is I doubt the Kurds gave this info for free

scottw 10-27-2019 08:23 AM

I heard obama got him

JohnR 10-27-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1178028)
There are unconfirmed reports of a US raid against Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

The raid was carried out by US special operations forces after they received "actionable intelligence",

The info came from the Kurds how Ironic , clearly a good thing if he is dead..

But i find the timing odd ..
Cant wait to see what the quid pro quo is I doubt the Kurds gave this info for free


^^^ This is good if true, heard last night and was waiting for conf. Trump announced it this morning so it is probably true (there is a history of top militant fighters being killed not turning out true - particularly in air strikes)


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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1178030)
I heard obama got him

I was expecting someone to comment how , ahhh nevermond.

wdmso 10-27-2019 09:30 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/video_and_a...ghdadi-is-dead

.. he was doing so well until 1:15 , then he went down a weird path..
For me anyway

scottw 10-27-2019 10:22 AM

great timing :kewl:

Saturday Night Live went on the air at 11:30 pm Eastern time with an opening skit where Alec Baldwin's Very Fake Trump was thanked by Pete Davidson's Very Fake ISIS Member for "bringing jobs back...for ISIS." Six minutes before, Jennifer Griffin of Fox News was tweeting that ISIS leader Abu-Bakr al-Baghdadi may have been killed in a raid by U.S. forces in Syria. John Santucci of ABC reported it via Twitter at 11:53.

PaulS 10-27-2019 12:32 PM

Glad they got him but I shook my head when Trump think al-baghdadi is worse than bin Laden. Also hearing Trump describe itwhas like listening to Isis describing a raid.
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Sea Dangles 10-27-2019 12:47 PM

Thank you for your leadership and defending the USA Mr.President.
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Nebe 10-27-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1178041)
Thank you for your leadership and defending the USA Mr.President.
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Trump didn’t catch that bad hombre. The military did. ;)
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Sea Dangles 10-27-2019 02:28 PM

America 1st never rang so true. Great leadership inspires.
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spence 10-27-2019 02:38 PM

Sounds like our special ops pulled off another difficult mission. Good for them. And now back to our regularly programmed impeachment hearings :hihi:

Sea Dangles 10-27-2019 04:51 PM

And here I thought the mission was green lighted just to distract from these very serious hearings. I guess it didn’t work.🤷🏽#^&♂️
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Pete F. 10-27-2019 05:46 PM

There’s always a tweet for any occasion
10/22/12
Stop congratulating Obama for killing Bin Laden. The Navy Seals killed Bin Laden.
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Jim in CT 10-27-2019 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178069)
There’s always a tweet for any occasion
10/22/12
Stop congratulating Obama for killing Bin Laden. The Navy Seals killed Bin Laden.
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i have no trouble believing that Trump downplayed Obama's role in the Bin Laden killing (which wasn't much of a role, but he deserves some credit), while Trump will claim he jumped out of a helicopter with a kabar knfe in his mouth to personally get this guy.

Raider Ronnie 10-27-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1178070)
i have no trouble believing that Trump downplayed Obama's role in the Bin Laden killing (which wasn't much of a role, but he deserves some credit), while Trump will claim he jumped out of a helicopter with a kabar knfe in his mouth to personally get this guy.


To his credit Trump made sure
the mission was carried out before Pelosi, Schumer knew about it and had their chance to leak it
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Pete F. 10-27-2019 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1178072)
To his credit Trump made sure
the mission was carried out before Pelosi, Schumer knew about it and had their chance to leak it
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You just eat up all Trump’s divisive baloney.
That’s the Trumplican way
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PaulS 10-27-2019 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1178079)
You just eat up all Trump’s divisive baloney.
That’s the Trumplican way
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Pretty hilarious
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Nebe 10-27-2019 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1178072)
To his credit Trump made sure
the mission was carried out before Pelosi, Schumer knew about it and had their chance to leak it
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Actually. The pentagon rushed to get this done before the Trump’s move to pull out troops had been completed. In other words, trump almost botched this
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scottw 10-28-2019 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1178048)

And now back to our regularly programmed impeachment hearings
:hihi:

yup

scottw 10-28-2019 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1178084)
Actually. The pentagon rushed to get this done before the Trump’s move to pull out troops had been completed. In other words, trump almost botched this
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if it makes you feel better I guess :hihi:

RIROCKHOUND 10-28-2019 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1178072)
To his credit Trump made sure
the mission was carried out before Pelosi, Schumer knew about it and had their chance to leak it
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I am sure he had to actually pause his golf game for a few minutes to issue the order....

Either way, good shoot. 👍
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scottw 10-28-2019 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1178089)
I am sure he had to actually pause his golf game for a few minutes to issue the order....

Either way, good shoot. 👍
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I heard it was mr. mustard in the parlor with the golf club
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Got Stripers 10-28-2019 07:17 AM

Trump as usual really doesn’t understand Isis or the Islamic terrorist mentality. Losing the leader is important, but it by no means ends their efforts. If fact Trump provided them a wonderful recruitment video that will no doubt be of great help as they move forward. A dog insult in their culture is a low blow and they will use Trumps description of his death to recruit the next generation. In typical Trump fashion, he claimed Isis uses the internet better than anyone except him of course, because he always has to be the best.
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Jim in CT 10-28-2019 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1178100)
Trump as usual really doesn’t understand Isis or the Islamic terrorist mentality. Losing the leader is important, but it by no means ends their efforts. If fact Trump provided them a wonderful recruitment video that will no doubt be of great help as they move forward. A dog insult in their culture is a low blow and they will use Trumps description of his death to recruit the next generation. In typical Trump fashion, he claimed Isis uses the internet better than anyone except him of course, because he always has to be the best.
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so we should have left him alone because it might help recruitment?
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wdmso 10-28-2019 08:02 AM

al qaeda survived bin laden death and morphed into to todays Isis .. the killing of both of them is a good thing .. but we tend to only kill them long after they killed so many. Until the idea is killed by a resonable standards of living in the middle east they will always be rebuilding in the shadows..

Iraqis are rioting in the streets in vast numbers its an incubator for extremists..

And Trumps granstanding and name calling .(yes he deserved to die a horrible death) and ive heard it before he's says it like it is,or hes not a politician or some just like the tough guy act.. for me it only diminishes the office of The Potus ...

And all my years in the service and correction ..

Those who have done the most been or been in the worst battles .. alway Say the least .. but the message was alway clear..
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Jim in CT 10-28-2019 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1178108)
Until the idea is killed by a resonable standards of living in the middle east they will always be rebuilding in the shadows..

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very well said. very hard to accomplish.
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scottw 10-28-2019 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1178100)
Trump as usual really doesn’t understand Isis or the Islamic terrorist mentality. Losing the leader is important, but it by no means ends their efforts. If fact Trump provided them a wonderful recruitment video that will no doubt be of great help as they move forward. A dog insult in their culture is a low blow and they will use Trumps description of his death to recruit the next generation. In typical Trump fashion, he claimed Isis uses the internet better than anyone except him of course, because he always has to be the best.
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venting snowflake

Got Stripers 10-28-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1178103)
so we should have left him alone because it might help recruitment?
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No just shut the fu*k, no details were needed, but Trump is ALL about the show; ran for fame and fortune.
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Got Stripers 10-28-2019 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1178113)
venting snowflake

No just calling an idiot an idiot, don’t feed their propaganda machine, no cure for stupid.
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Jim in CT 10-28-2019 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1178133)
No just shut the fu*k, no details were needed, but Trump is ALL about the show; ran for fame and fortune.
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so obama didn’t like to say, “general motors is alive and bin laden is dead”, his way of spiking the football? but it’s ok when he does it, because he does it in harvard-speak. sorry, what’s good for the goose.

this guy they killed, the head of isis, kidnapped an american girl who was a humanitarian aid worker in
syria, they kept her for
months, and he himself tortured and raped her, then they executed her and dumped her body. the parents will never even be able to bury her. trump should have announced that they brought his body home and fed it to pigs. if egging them on brings them out of the shadows, fire up the drones and release the hellfires until
our inventory is dry.

it’s ok when obama
pats himself on the back, but unbefitting a potus when trump does it.
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detbuch 10-28-2019 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1178151)
it’s ok when obama
pats himself on the back, but unbefitting a potus when trump does it.

The idea that Trump's insulting, fighting language would be an incentive to recruit more ISIS fighters is just propaganda to turn a positive for him into a negative. Just as the left will do, and has done, with every thing that would bolster Trump's approval numbers. The whole impeachment nonsense is for that very purpose. And anything and everything else that can bring his numbers down or keep them from going up can hopefully persuade some more Repub Senators, than the few on board now, to convict in the Senate impeachment trial.

If Trump had said what the Wapo originally said--that Bhagdadi was an austere religious scholar who died, would that have softened the ISIS remnant's desire to quit and be nice. Would they have, because Trump said nice things, decided to be less brutal and less motivated to continue what Baghdadi started? Hell no.

They could care less about any show of "civility." If anything, it would be a sign of weakness. They don't respect that. Their whole MO is based on fear. Power and the fear it evokes is the "language" they respect. They have never required insults against them to give them motivation. What would help them get new recruits is the image that they are powerful, and have the backing of Allah. Doing the will of Allah. Characterizing their leader as being killed in disgrace, dying like a cowardly whining dog would not be an attractive pull for a potential recruit. It would not be an attractive sign of successful power, or of the leader and his movement being sanctioned and protected by their God.

But Spence and the anti-Trumpers on the forum will gladly parrot the propaganda talking point to maintain their narrative of Trump being the ignorant, stupid, danger to "our Democracy."


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