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spence 03-20-2018 07:21 PM

Ralph Peters?
 
Wow...

http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/20/medi...ine/index.html

Nebe 03-20-2018 07:24 PM

Every cable news network with a 24 hour news cycle is guilty as well.
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JohnR 03-20-2018 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1139825)

Probably the first time you ever appreciated someone from Fox news

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1139826)
Every cable news network with a 24 hour news cycle is guilty as well.
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^^^^ This

PaulS 03-20-2018 08:16 PM

Today, I feel that Fox News is assaulting our constitutional order and the rule of law, while fostering corrosive and unjustified paranoia among viewers. Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed."
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chuckg 03-21-2018 03:29 PM

Paul, the fact that you received your, so-called news from fox for 10 years speaks volumes about your gullibility: welcome to the real world...
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spence 03-21-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckg (Post 1139908)
Paul, the fact that you received your, so-called news from fox for 10 years speaks volumes about your gullibility: welcome to the real world...
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He was quoting Peters.
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Sea Dangles 03-21-2018 05:42 PM

Yup, because Fox has changed a lot. I really love hearing the poor butt hurt saps crying about the one news channel who blows Trump. Cry me a river.
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scottw 03-21-2018 05:51 PM

I bet the majority of FOX viewers are lefties...:lossinit:

Jim in CT 03-22-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1139825)

There are partisan hacks at Foxnews who do noting but tow the party line, like Sean Hannity. It's good if we all know who they are.

Anyone at CNN or MSNBC doing the same thing that Peters did, calling out the bias there? Would Spence call that out as being noble?

On a good night, maybe 3 million people watch Foxnews in primetime? That's 1% of the population? How much influence does Fox really have?
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Pete F. 03-22-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1139973)
There are partisan hacks at Foxnews who do noting but tow the party line, like Sean Hannity. It's good if we all know who they are.

Anyone at CNN or MSNBC doing the same thing that Peters did, calling out the bias there? Would Spence call that out as being noble?

On a good night, maybe 3 million people watch Foxnews in primetime? That's 1% of the population? How much influence does Fox really have?
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On Trump, of course this is the WAPO
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-border-wall/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...ck-loop-216248

Jim in CT 03-22-2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1139978)

I don't like Trump's tweets, very un-presidential.

He's a simple-minded baby who gives a thumbs-up to Fox and Friends when they stroke his fur. OK. Is there any reason to believe that Fox & Friends (a morning puff show that is clearly right leaning) is influencing policy? Congress still writes laws and passes budgets, last time I checked. So it's not like Fox & Friends can say "abortion should be outlawed " and then - POOF - abortion is outlawed.

From where I sit, Trump is pretty much doing what he pledged during the campaign. I don't see that Fox is steering his agenda. They may be saying it's a great agenda, and then he tweets that they are brilliant for saying his agenda is great...that doesn't mean they are influencing the agenda. I hope not.

The tweets are very un-presidential.

Nebe 03-22-2018 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1139979)
I don't like Trump's tweets, very un-presidential.

He's a simple-minded baby who gives a thumbs-up to Fox and Friends when they stroke his fur. OK. Is there any reason to believe that Fox & Friends (a morning puff show that is clearly right leaning) is influencing policy? Congress still writes laws and passes budgets, last time I checked. So it's not like Fox & Friends can say "abortion should be outlawed " and then - POOF - abortion is outlawed.

From where I sit, Trump is pretty much doing what he pledged during the campaign. I don't see that Fox is steering his agenda. They may be saying it's a great agenda, and then he tweets that they are brilliant for saying his agenda is great...that doesn't mean they are influencing the agenda. I hope not.

The tweets are very un-presidential.

He pledged to end the deficit. How’s that going ? Is Hillary in jail yet? Nope.
Muslim ban? Not so sure.
Keeping the bad hombre meskins out? Nope.

Truth is he lied his ass off to get the uneducated white trash vote.
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The Dad Fisherman 03-22-2018 03:33 PM

How them Gitmo detainees doing these days?
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wdmso 03-22-2018 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1139988)
How them Gitmo detainees doing these days?
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OF THE 41 CAPTIVES, FIVE ARE APPROVED FOR TRANSFER AND TWO ARE CONVICTED OF WAR CRIMES. ANOTHER 26 ARE PERIODIC REVIEW BOARD APPROVED ‘FOREVER PRISONERS.’

even after ww2 we never had forever prisoners Gitmos is an embarrassment for the united states

PaulS 03-22-2018 04:42 PM

I'll take Biden over Pres. Trump in a fight. Donald would probably have a heart attack in about 2 minutes
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The Dad Fisherman 03-22-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1139989)
OF THE 41 CAPTIVES, FIVE ARE APPROVED FOR TRANSFER AND TWO ARE CONVICTED OF WAR CRIMES. ANOTHER 26 ARE PERIODIC REVIEW BOARD APPROVED ‘FOREVER PRISONERS.’

even after ww2 we never had forever prisoners Gitmos is an embarrassment for the united states

I thought OB was going to shut it down?
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Nebe 03-22-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1139994)
I thought OB was going to shut it down?
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But obama!!~~ :sspam:

Jim in CT 03-22-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1139986)
He pledged to end the deficit. How’s that going ? Is Hillary in jail yet? Nope.
Muslim ban? Not so sure.
Keeping the bad hombre meskins out? Nope.

Truth is he lied his ass off to get the uneducated white trash vote.
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He nominated a superb supreme court justice, he eliminated all kinds of useless red tape regulations that companies no longer need to comply with, he is pounding ISIS, and he signed tax reform that gives more money to 90% of us. And naturally he's a big baby about it all, but we all knew that was coming. He has also fired more people than George Steinbrenner.

"Truth is he lied his ass off to get the uneducated white trash vote"

Education does not equal smart.

Jim in CT 03-22-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1139994)
I thought OB was going to shut it down?
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He was going to pass immigration reform too.

Jim in CT 03-22-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1139995)
But obama!!~~ :sspam:

SO we can't point out glaring hypocrisy?

spence 03-22-2018 07:17 PM

So when does the war start?
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Nebe 03-22-2018 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1140000)
So when does the war start?
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Probably right before re-election time. ;)
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Pete F. 03-22-2018 07:33 PM

He’s setting up his war cabinet now. McMaster is gone, the Fox News guy is in
Kelley is next
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PaulS 03-22-2018 08:01 PM

Give him some time to spend some money on new furniture
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The Dad Fisherman 03-22-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1139995)
But obama!!~~ :sspam:

Bush' s Fault.


Noticing a pattern yet?
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wdmso 03-23-2018 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1139994)
I thought OB was going to shut it down?
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talk to congress .. still a black eye in US history

wdmso 03-23-2018 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1139996)
He nominated a superb supreme court justice,only to some people he eliminated all kinds of useless red tape regulations that companies no longer need to comply with(like gutting the EPA ?), he is pounding ISIS,(was being done well before he came along )and he signed tax reform that gives more money to 90% of us.([COLOR="Red"]total bs Just Capital’s analysis of 121 Russell 1000 companies found that 57 percent of tax savings will go to shareholders, compared to 20 percent directed to job creation and capital investment and 6 percent to workers.COLOR] ) And naturally he's a big baby about it all, but we all knew that was coming. He has also fired more people than George Steinbrenner.

"Truth is he lied his ass off to get the uneducated white trash vote"

Education does not equal smart.

sounds like your suffering from stockholm syndrome

scottw 03-23-2018 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1139986)

uneducated white trash

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I suspect if that were any other color you'd be in deep trouble :rollem:

Jim in CT 03-23-2018 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1140019)
sounds like your suffering from stockholm syndrome

"57 percent of tax savings will go to shareholders, compared to 20 percent directed to job creation and capital investment and 6 percent to workers"

I never said citizens are getting most of the savings. I said most of us are getting something. I didn't get a bonus at Liberty Mutual. But my pay went up, because my tax rate went down. Do you understand? I don't know a single person at my company, whose paycheck didn't increase, thanks to tax reform.

WDMSO, you have a pension, correct? Some of that pension, surely, is invested in stocks and bonds. So if the companies you own are more profitable, that's good for your pension, which is good for you. Maybe you don't care, because even if all those investments tank, you expect taxpayers to make that up, so maybe you don't care where your gains come from. But believe me, it does matter.

Your pension, if you live long enough, will pay out a lot more than you put into it. You need investment income, to fund the difference.

You seem to think that if companies become more profitable, that only benefits wealthy people. That's not even close to being true. Just because every cent didn't go to the rank-and-file, doesn't mean they don't benefit.

"only to some people"

Naturally. Has there ever been a Supreme Court pick who everyone approved of? WHen Obama nominated the racist maniac Sonia Sotomayor, did everyone approve, or only some people? The people who voted for Trump, are thrilled with Gorsuch.

"sounds like your suffering from stockholm syndrome"

Stockholm Syndrome is when you become attached to your tormentor. Trump nominated a Supreme Court pick who actually believes that the constitution matters, and he is putting $200 a month more in my pocket, which will exactly pay for the little camper I just bought for my family, which we cannot wait to start enjoying together, and creating lifelong memories of time spent together. If that's your idea of 'torment', then Trump can torment me all he wants. Bring on the abuse!

Jim in CT 03-23-2018 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1140004)
He’s setting up his war cabinet now. McMaster is gone, the Fox News guy is in
Kelley is next
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On one hand, Trump gets crucified for being soft on Russia. Now, Trump gets crucified for picking Bolton, a guy who is very hawkish on Russia.

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. It literally doesn't matter what Trump does, he will get bashed for being Ghengis Khan or Hitler.


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