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Mike P 12-26-2006 04:55 PM

Belichick leaving the Pats?
 
I don't want to cause a panic, but there's a definite buzz around the NY Giants blogs that I look at about Belichick being in the last year of his contract, and dissatisfied with Kraft always letting talent walk. Apparently, some reporter from the NY Post (always a questionable source for facts) mentioned it also in his column this morning.

Personally, I think these bloggers are smoking some heavy duty sheeit.

You guys getting any wind of this up in the Bahstahn area?

I can't see Kraft letting him go. I think BB can name his price and even get some more control over personnel to stay.

afterhours 12-26-2006 05:01 PM

i'm betting he's already been signed to an extension, kraft is a smart schrewd businessman. bb keeps the players he wants to keep.

Bigcat 12-26-2006 05:05 PM

That been going around for a month or so.
I heard Johnathan Kraft on a pre game show a few weeks ago say that Bill will be the coach of the Pats, but we all know how that goes?:huh:

Mike P 12-26-2006 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 444928)
i'm betting he's already been signed to an extension, kraft is a smart schrewd businessman. bb keeps the players he wants to keep.

I agree. Of the big names that left, few bettered their situation.

Milloy played in obscurity in Buffalo. They replaced him with Harrison, a step up, and won two more SBs.

Law went to the Jets and stopped making Pro Bowls.

Ted Washington jumped to Oakland, as close to a hell on earth as there is. And he went from being the stud at NT in a 3-4 to being Oakland's "other" DT in a 4-3.

Losing Branch, tho, that hurt. And we'll see if losing Vinatieri was a blunder the first time a clutch kicking situation arises in the post-season.

I thought McGinest should have had the chance to end his career in Foxboro. But this is the cap era and there are only so many guys you can keep.

My own opinion is that the next HC of the NYG is going to be the present one, Tom Coughlin. The Giants don't change coaches for the sake of change, or to appease disgruntled fans. Coughlin can play the injury card this year and keep his job. Plus, the Giants usually hire from within the organization, or from the "Giants family" which was Coughlin's deal, and Belichick is reported to have burned some bridges in the front office there when he was Parcells' DC. He wasn't even interviewed for the vacancy in the late 1990s, when they hired Jim Fassel.

Backbeach Jake 12-26-2006 06:17 PM

Belichick is a freaking god in NE. The Krafts would pay a very stiff price for letting him go or losing him. And the Pats would never be the same again for years. What he's done with what he's had and has is amazing and a testament to his skills. Besides, who ya gonna get?

CAL 12-26-2006 06:29 PM

I heard earlier this year that Belichick had been signed to an extension already, they just didn't announce it.

And I heard Kraft say on WEEI that Bill has final say on all player moves, although he might run some things by him. But in the end, Belichick's in charge.

Slipknot 12-26-2006 07:40 PM

Nonsense :fishslap: have another drink bloggers :gu: no way :doh:

He's here for the duration, how ever long that isatleast I hope so :hidin:

:D

Slipknot 12-26-2006 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl F (Post 444959)
why would he get new kitchen "boxes" if he was leavin' town ;)

right :) he wouldn't get new built-in bookcases and then blow town would he:boots:

If Kraft loses him, you'll hear a big thud, all the season ticket holders and waiting list holders drop their jaws and canceling their checks:nailem: if he leaves.

Mike P 12-26-2006 08:28 PM

Well, the Giants just canned John Hufnagle, their offensive co-ordinator. Their QB coach, Kevin Gilbride, will assume play calling responsibilities for the last regular season game vs the Skins.

If Gilbride's name sounds vaguely familiar, he had about 15 minutes of fame for being on the receiving end of a Buddy Ryan right cross (seen on national TV) when they were both Oilers' assts.

Buddy was not a fan of Gilbride's run and shoot offense--he called it the "chuck and duck". Ryan finally got exasperated at all of the time his defense was spending on the field after about 6 consecutive 3 and outs by Gilbride's offense, which all tolled took less than 2 minutes off the clock, and tried to punch out Gilbride on the sidelines :rotf3: :laughs:

I still think Coughlin stays ;)

Bigcat 12-26-2006 08:33 PM

It looks like the Steelers job just might open up?

striperondafly 12-28-2006 04:43 PM

Yes likely Bill Cowher will take time off - then come back he isn't done yet is what is being spoken

Mike P 12-28-2006 05:37 PM

You want stability in your organization? Here's stability. The Steelers have had exactly two head coaches over nearly the last 40 years.

Vectorfisher 12-28-2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 445380)
You want stability in your organization? Here's stability. The Steelers have had exactly two head coaches over nearly the last 40 years.


Unfortunatley in one case:rotf3: :rotf3:

Raven 12-29-2006 08:00 AM

maybe the built in shelves ...are because he plans to sell soon.:eek:

Mike P 12-29-2006 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vectorfisher (Post 445381)
Unfortunatley in one case:rotf3: :rotf3:

He did get to the Super Bowl with Neil O'Donnell as his QB. That was a feat in and of itself :D

riverrat55 12-30-2006 10:27 PM

Bill Belichek will stay with the Patriots!!!
Couglin will be fired by the Giants and then will coach the Steelers!!!
Cowher will resign from the Steelers and then coach Dallas!!!
Parcells will resign from Dallas and take over the Giants!!!

Slipknot 12-30-2006 10:31 PM

The Pats can't get rid of a guy with this kind of resume. it needs updating but WOW impressive.

Bill Belichick Head Coach
Bill Belichick

Pro Career: Bill Belichick is in his 32nd season as an NFL coach and is the only head coach in league history to win three Super Bowl championships in a four-year span. Coach Belichick's Patriots teams own all of the major winning streaks in NFL history: consecutive overall wins (21 from 2003-04), consecutive regular season wins (18 from 2003-04), and consecutive playoff wins (10 from 2001-05).

Hired as the 14th head coach in Patriots' history by Chairman and CEO Robert Kraft on Jan. 27, 2000, Belichick is in his seventh season as New England's head coach.

In 2001, just his second season at the helm, Belichick guided the Patriots to their first league title with a dramatic victory in Super Bowl XXXVI. In the seasons since then, he has directed New England to sustained on-field success through an instilled philosophy of maintaining short-term focus to deliver long-term goals.

Belichick directed the Patriots to victories in Super Bowls XXXVI (2001), XXXVIII (2003), and XXXIX (2004), and enters the 2006 season as the only NFL head coach to record nine or more victories in each of the last five years. Additionally, his teams have won the AFC East title and advanced in the playoffs in three straight seasons and four of the last five years.

The Patriots' three straight years of playoff advancement mark the longest current streak in the NFL and their string of three straight division crowns is a team record and is tied for the longest current streak in the league.

Belichick's accomplishments have placed him among the NFL's elite coaches. Only one coach (Pittsburgh's Chuck Noll, 4) has won more Super Bowls than Belichick, and his three Super Bowl titles tie Washington's Joe Gibbs and San Francisco's Bill Walsh for second place on the NFL's all-time list.

Including regular season and playoff games, Belichick enters 2006 as the winningest head coach in the NFL over the last five seasons and is also the Patriots' all-time leader in victories (73) and winning percentage (.682).

Since 2001, Belichick has directed the Patriots to a 68-23 (.747) record, including a 10-1 postseason mark. Belichick owns a career playoff record of 11-2, a mark that ranks second in NFL history behind only the legendary Vince Lombardi (9-1).

From 2003-04, Belichick directed the Patriots through the most prosperous two-year period for any team in NFL history, netting back-to-back Super Bowl victories and consecutive 17-2 campaigns. The team's 34 victories in 2003-04 mark the highest two-year win total in the NFL's 86-year history.

Belichick's recent accomplishments are the latest triumphs in a career during which he has helped produce five Super Bowl titles, six conference championships and 11 division titles since entering the NFL in 1975.

Now in his 32nd season, he has more years of NFL experience than any of the other 31 head coaches. He won his first two Super Bowls as the defensive coordinator for the New York Giants in 1986 and 1990. George Seifert is the only other man to have won multiple Super Bowls both as a head coach and as an assistant coach.

Belichick launched his career in 1975 as a special assistant with the Baltimore Colts, then became an assistant special teams coach with Detroit (1976-77) and Denver (1978). In 1979, he joined the New York Giants to begin a 12-season stint. Belichick was named head coach of the Cleveland Browns in 1991, becoming the youngest head coach in the NFL at age 37. By 1994, Belichick returned the Browns to the playoffs, finishing 11-5 and advancing to the second round, while allowing a league-low 204 total points. In 1996, Belichick joined New England and was a key contributor to the team's rebound from a 6-10 season in 1995 to an 11-5 season and the team's first division title in 10 years en route to the Patriots' appearance in Super Bowl XXXI. Belichick then spent three seasons with the Jets from 1997 to 1999, helping New York improve from a 1-15 season in 1996 to reach the AFC Championship Game in 1998.

Career record: 110-79.

Mike P 12-31-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riverrat55 (Post 446077)
Parcells will resign from Dallas and take over the Giants!!!

Bill Parcells will never work for the Mara family again--you can bet the mortgage on that ;)

Coughlin bought himself a stay of execution last night. With the GM retiring and the offensive coordinator sure to be fired now, the front office won't want any more turnover in the organization.


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