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Eric Roach 10-10-2013 06:53 PM

"Canal Pencil"
 
Just curious what the flat bottom does on these pencils. Never fished one.

rayndogg 10-10-2013 07:33 PM

I'm not sure, but was told that it controls the roll and action of the plug in the strong current that the canal produces. Not sure if that is the reason, but was what I was told.
Rene
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chefchris401 10-10-2013 08:01 PM

So builders can sell two versions of the same plug.
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mikecc 10-10-2013 08:08 PM

In a current like the canal the flat bottom lets the plug ride the top better. this allows builders to add more weight.

Eric Roach 10-10-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecc (Post 1017200)
In a current like the canal the flat bottom lets the plug ride the top better. this allows builders to add more weight.

Huh...guess I don't quite understand that...aren't you sanding away buoyancy (and reducing lead need) by taking it to the belt sander?

Eric Roach 10-10-2013 08:51 PM

**(Originally quoted wrong poster)**

Seriously, Chris -- you don't think this design has a benefit?

JohnnySaxatilis 10-10-2013 11:29 PM

when makin the plug walk the dog the flat bottom adds stability too, it wont roll out as much when you're really rippin it. absolutely a benefit.

Jackbass 10-11-2013 04:18 AM

Gotta agree with Mike and Johnny. Plus the added weight may help when trying to reach out and touch some one.
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numbskull 10-11-2013 05:38 AM

In addition to what Mike said, I suspect the shape itself makes the plug cast further.
It seems plausible that the flat bottom creates aerodynamics that reduce wobble and it may even create some lift (like an airplane wing).

GattaFish 10-11-2013 06:16 AM

Rise to the top faster with more weight, easier to work since it rides higher in the water.

Lifting body concept has merrit.
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mikecc 10-11-2013 10:17 AM

Acts like a surfboard.

Diggin Jiggin 10-11-2013 10:32 AM

what the others said. Sometimes you need a lot of distance, small plug with extra lead goes a long way but is hard to keep up top. My canal pencils sink fast. But a flat side lets them glide the current as you work them downcurrent and lets you work them slower/easier.

Eric Roach 10-11-2013 10:40 AM

Thanks to all of you here and who PM'd me -- I understand now and will give the design a shot for the spring herring run in the upper Merrimack.

GattaFish 10-11-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mikecc (Post 1017243)
Acts like a surfboard.


Bingo. minus the wave... Hydrodynamic Lift :devil2:

johnny ducketts 01-24-2014 03:18 PM

Catches slobs at Cutty!

Mojo7 01-25-2014 10:13 AM

Definitely helps the plug get up on plane. With the added weight and throwing it in the canal current the flat bottom helps get it back to the top.

iamskippy 01-25-2014 10:34 AM

It can also make for some great sun surface swimming action if done correctly.
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ed morini 01-28-2014 07:56 AM

canal specials
 
from my point of view, the planing of the bottom increases the surface area to allow more weight to be added, increasing casting distance. removing the rounded portion and adding more weight will serve to sink the plug. I also think that the increased width will help with the chop in the canal.

The Dad Fisherman 01-28-2014 08:53 AM

Think of it like skipping a stone. You skip a round stone...goes once maybe twice and then done.....When you skip a flat stone it goes and goes (If you are good at it :hee:)

When you skip a stone the water is stationary and the stone's momentum is what makes it skip....when you are throwing a canal pencil, the water is moving and the plug (stone) is some what stationary and just skipping along .

Mojo7 01-28-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1029911)
Think of it like skipping a stone. You skip a round stone...goes once maybe twice and then done.....When you skip a flat stone it goes and goes (If you are good at it :hee:)

When you skip a stone the water is stationary and the stone's momentum is what makes it skip....when you are throwing a canal pencil, the water is moving and the plug (stone) is some what stationary and just skipping along .

Great way to explain it.

tlapinski 01-28-2014 02:33 PM

I also find that the flat bottom of a Canal pencil produces more splash than a rounded bottom pencil. Consider the different splash that results from slapping the water with a 2x4 as opposed to a dowel.

Pete F. 01-28-2014 07:41 PM

Just another Old wives tale.
It actually has less surface area, it would have a slight tendency to develops some lift, but like Peter Pan said think happy thoughts and you will fly. First you need faith.

ProfessorM 01-28-2014 08:40 PM

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Pretty sure Mr. Gibbs screwed up a pencil popper and tried it that way and liked it.
I got to admit I don't see a lot of difference in the flat bottom pencil compared to the round one and I've fished a lot of them. Matter of fact I have gone back to fishing the regular Gibbs style pencils since last year.
Heck I even tried this, concave belly, as you can see in the pics below which looked kind of cool but without much difference in the action either


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