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Paul, for the purposes of disproving everything Pete believes, we can exclude all religious-based giving from this conversation. If you exclude all that, it would still show that conservatives aren't the greedy, heartless nazis that Pete believes we all are. "I feel better giving to save the children then I do for giving $ to my churches men club which is remodeling our meeting room." So would I. But every charity has expenses it has to cover. |
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paul, liberals also make donations to ivy league schools which have endowments in the tens of billions. so if you’re going to ding conservatives because not every cent of tax deductible charity is feeding the poor, at least make the same adjustment to liberal donations which are equally frivolous. again, my point isn’t that conservatives are superior. just that we aren’t anywhere near what that idiot lunatic thinks we are. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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11. 11 outbid how many who were there, tens of thousands? again, you never made a peep about the armed BLM rioters, who unlike the January 6 rioters, actually killed people. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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ZERO. exactly, precisely zero. How many were murdered during the BLM protests? 10 or so? you have not, nor will ever, criticize the much more destructive BLM riots. because you don’t care about riots or property damage ior murder. you care about painting democrats in a favorable light. That’s it. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
In November 2020, days after the election, Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers,
began disseminating messages to other Oath Keepers members and affiliates delegitimizing the results of the election and encouraging them to forcibly oppose the lawful transfer of presidential power. See Indictment at ¶ 18(a) (telling those on the “Leadership intel sharing secured” chat (hereafter “Leadership Intel Chat”), on November 5, that they “MUST refuse to accept Biden as a legitimate winner” and warning, “We aren’t getting through this without a civil war. Too late for that. Prepare your mind, body, spirit.”). Rhodes circulated and highlighted an eight-step plan, allegedly from a Serbian contact to overthrow the government, which included: (i) peaceful protest, (ii) complete civil disobedience, (iii) connecting with the police and organizing neighborhoods, (iv) swarming the streets and confronting opponents, (v) gathering in the capitol and discarding barricades, (vi) police joining with the protestors after initial violence, (vii) storming parliament, and (viii) destroying the state media. Id. Rhodes followed this plan in the months after the presidential election. At his direction, certain members of his organization began preparing for operations inside of Washington, D.C. Indictment at ¶ 21. He further organized deadly weapons to aid in the conspiracy. Heavily armed QRF teams would be minutes away, just outside the Capitol, ready to support those on the ground. Id. at ¶¶ 42-45. All contingency plans were considered. The conspirators even sought to ferry lethal weapons from Virginia by boat into the Capitol, if the bridges were closed. Id. at ¶ 52 In December 2020, Rhodes focused his co-conspirators on the Certification proceeding of January 6, 2021. During a December 22 interview with a regional Oath Keepers leader, Rhodes described January 6 as “a hard constitutional deadline” for stopping the transfer of presidential power and warned that if President-Elect Biden were to assume the presidency, “We will have to do a bloody, massively bloody revolution against them.” Indictment at ¶ 30. On December 23, Rhodes published an open letter on the Oath Keepers website in which he noted that, on January 6, “tens of thousands of patriot Americans, both veterans and non-veterans, will already be in Washington D.C., and many of us will have our mission-critical gear stowed nearby just outside D.C.” Id. at ¶ 31. Rhodes warned in the open letter that he and others may have to “take to arms in defense of our God given liberty.” Id. Rhodes and his co-conspirators created and administered Signal chats with titles like “DC OP: Jan 6 21” and “OKFL Hangout” for coordinating their plans for January 6. Indictment at ¶¶ 38-40. They utilized encrypted messaging applications for these planning chats and stressed the need for operational security. See, e.g., id. at ¶ 27. The coconspirators discussed being prepared to use violence to stop the “usurpers” from taking control and what weapons they would bring and plans for the QRF. Id. at ¶ 41-56, 58-60. On December 25, Rhodes wrote to the OKFL Hangout Chat, “I think Congress will screw him [President Trump] over. The only chance we/he has is if we scare the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of them and convince them it will be torches and pitchforks time is they don’t do the right thing. But I don’t think they will listen.” Id. at ¶ 34. Rhodes went on to say, “And he [President Trump] needs to know that if he fails to act, then we will. He needs to understand that we will have no choice.” On December 31, one week before the Capitol attack, Rhodes wrote to the Leadership Intel Chat, “There is no standard political or legal way out of this.” B. Vallejo and His Co-Conspirators Prepared an Armed QRF To Support the Plot to Stop the Transfer of Power Vallejo and his co-conspirators coordinated at least three regional QRF teams stationed at a Comfort Inn in Arlington, Virginia, to support the co-conspirators’ plot and the January 6 Capitol attack. Indictment at ¶¶ 45-49. The QRF teams guarded an arsenal of firearms and related equipment and were prepared to speed those weapons into the hands of co-conspirators on the ground in Washington, D.C., when directed by Rhodes or other conspiracy leaders. Id. Vallejo served on one of those QRF teams. On December 31, 2020, Vallejo’s Arizona QRF team member messaged Rhodes on Signal that Vallejo and others were coming to Washington, D.C., and that “everyone has their own technical equipment and knows how to use it,” adding a “winky face” emoji. Indictment at ¶ 44. Rhodes responded, “awesome!” Id. The Arizona QRF team member also said that Vallejo and the group would have “rifles” and “man power.” Id. On January 3, 2021, Rhodes informed a co-conspirator on Signal, “We WILL have a QRF. this situation calls for it.” Indictment at ¶ 50. In the following days, coconspirators communicated and implemented plans to bring weapons to the Comfort Inn. Id. at ¶¶ 58-59, 63-65, 68-69. Vallejo messaged co-conspirator and Florida team lead Kelly Meggs, “Sir, Ed Vallejo of Arizona in Tenn. With cadre requesting coordinates to Allied encampment outside DC boundaries to rendezvous. Please respond ASAP. For the Republic.” On January 5, Vallejo messaged Meggs again, “Please text location so we will know where to begin in the morning.” Meggs responded with the address of the Comfort Inn Ballston, where the co-conspirators staged their multiple QRF teams. The day before the attack on the Capitol, on January 5, Meggs and his Florida team dropped off at least three luggage carts’ worth of gun boxes, rifle cases, and suitcases filled with ammunition with their QRF team. A second QRF team from North Carolina consisted of four men who kept their rifles ready to go in a vehicle parked in the hotel lot. Later, Vallejo and other members of the Arizona QRF team wheeled in bags and large bins of weapons, ammunition, and essential supplies to last 30 days—as seen in the QRF hotel surveillance stills below, showing Vallejo on the left and his Arizona QRF team member on the right: |
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Jan 6 was a coordinated attack on the Capitol, planned months in advance and with the knowledge of people inside the administration. |
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"why are conservatives slightly more charitable and generous than liberals" |
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there’s no way to make a case that conservatives are meaningfully less caring about the poor, than liberals. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
Conservatives are happier than liberals - but only because they lack empathy
Conservatives are happier than liberals - but only because they lack empathy Conservatives are happier than liberals - but only because they lack empathy https://www.thejournal.ie/conservati...71962-Sep2014/ Conservatives don't like yucky stuff https://www.businessinsider.com/libe...erently-2018-1 Empathy and the Liberal-Conservative Political Divide in the U.S. https://jspp.psychopen.eu/index.php/...icle/view/5209 Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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But you sure can insinuate that Jan6 was a coup or an insurrection. It's what you do--a constant flow of propaganda. |
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It takes time to build a conspiracy case. And your obfuscation of the facts that continue to emerge in court filings is wishful thinking. On the anniversary of January 6, Merrick Garland explained that all of the arrests from the first year had laid the foundation for more complex cases. This is the kind of thing he was talking about: working your way up through Mark Grods to Joshua James to Stewart Rhodes to Roger Stone, taking the time to crack and exploit Tarrio’s phone, exploiting early access to Straka’s comms to get to the organizers. The investigation “aperture” hasn’t changed; what has changed is DOJ has acquired information it needed before it could take the next step. As I said before, patience Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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As for Jan6, at this point, there seems to be different actors in different groups, or solo, doing different things with different motives. Some may actually, EVENTUALLY, be convicted of various things you hope for. But to frame the whole rally as a singular coordinated conspiracy for some singularly desired result, is premature, or just politically driven narrative. PATIENCE. |
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democrats tried to steal trump win i. 2016 bu challenging state results with zero evidence, that was ok, because shut up. and the BLM riots were a benign event, also because shut up. And Biden will end up on Mt Rushmore. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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There are many people charged with crimes at the capital on January 6th. Some have ALREADY been convicted of conspiring to overturn the election. Just keep denying You’ve been doing it for years I think you forget that Mueller prosecuted Trump's coffee boy, Campaign Manager and his Deputy, personal lawyer, National Security Advisor and rat-#^&#^&#^&#^&er, plus referring a case against his top donor, Tom Barrack, who is currently being prosecuted. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Reminder: There's not "a" grand jury investigating Trump's flunkies.
DOJ has used at least six grand juries to investigate January 6. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Oh, as you can see I am patient
However I see Trumplicans are confused again Donald Trump did not kill Bin Laden. He did invite the Taliban to Camp David on 9/11 though. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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“The signing of the Doha agreement had a really pernicious effect on the government of Afghanistan and on its military – psychological more than anything else, but we set a date – certain for when we were going to leave and when they could expect all assistance to end,” McKenzie said. He was referring to a February 29, 2020, agreement that the Trump administration signed with the Taliban in Doha, Qatar, in which the US promised to fully withdraw its troops by May 2021 and the Taliban committed to several conditions, including stopping attacks on US and coalition forces. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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So Biden was left with a choice, start the war over by increasing boots on the ground or get out. He made the correct choice after years of horrendous decisions by our government in Afghanistan. Afghanistan was invaded because of 9/11, the majority involved in that attack were Saudi, no Afghans were there. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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