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How's that Hope and Change thing workin out for you

:hee:

Do you do any work?:jump1:

And what?.... we don't care about Syrian's??????

never I just like sittin here poking the dragon :rotf2:

you're lucky it can't breathe fire in your direction....

besides we get enough BO spam on TV

Much better when viewed against the worse president in our lifetime.

Which one would make a better president...left or right :hee:

Sadly, I think there is a race for the worst president of our lifetime and the lead is pretty close.

Ahh, to long for the Reagan / Clinton days.

i'll vote for Gary Johnson first....
trump second, but he'll drop out
he's just trying to feel important


Clinton days yes...

Ray gun can rot in Hell

I'd vote for Clinton again. I still think he did a pretty good Job. I think Reagan did too but prefer Clinton...

I was a Reagan repub. I didn't change - the party did.

I'd vote for Clinton. Actually I'd vote for Mrs./ Clinton.

Swimmer I'd vote for her but only if she had Bill as her VP.

Give him more time for Lewinskies :hee:

It wouldn't hurt if the people that are put in power weren't so concerned about what they would be doing when they left office UNTIL they were out of office.
Between that and the self-serving attitude that cries "I get mine first, and then you can fight over the rest" I don't know what ticks me off more.
All I do know is that if a person is too involved with either, then they can't possibly be looking out for the best interest of the country.
If they try to "serve two masters", they will do poorly by both!

Hope and Change?
it's more like "Hope I can find some Change" to pay for gas!!!

Telemprompter Inventor "Hub" Schlafly Dies; Device Changed Public Address in America - The Note

There was just a huge gasp heard in DC.

RIP Hub Schlafly

yes because she can't make him her numba 1 lady

When you see someone like Walfart complaining you know it's a world of #^&#^&#^&#^& out there right now.

Wal-Mart shoppers running out of money - Apr. 27, 2011

Here comes your double dip Jim....by the end of the summer.

I assume you mean Bush.

Yeah, all he did was keep us safe after 09/11 when every terrorist expert in the world said we'd be attacked again. He routed Al Queda from their safe haven, and he brought an end to a monster of a dictator in Iraq. Bush also lowered taxes for every single American (despite liberal lies that the tax cuts were only for the wealthy), helped senior citizens save $ on prescription drugs.

The economy grew like crazy under his watch, until the subprime mortgage crisis exploded. Was that his fault? I don't see how...

Anything else? Oh yeah. He also is credited with saving 1.2 MILLION lives in Africa.

Bush's AIDS Treatment Program Saved 1.2 Million Lives In Africa

The liberal media sure didn't report this, and Bush didn't brag about it (not his style), but the man did more to help AIDS victims in Africa than any other human being on the planet. In a fair world, Bush would have won the Nobel Peace Prize. In this country, he gets called a racist.

Bush made some huge mistakes (Katrina, spending too much). Worst ever? Tell that to generations and generations of Africans that will live because of him.

He also had the grace to not endlessly blame his predecessor for everything that ever went wrong, and he had the grace to never demonize those who disagreed with him. Hell. he gave a presidential achievement award to Barbars Streisand, who hated Bush's guts. He didn't care, he just liked her music. Does Obama have that kind of class?

Worst ever? Hardly. Remember Jimmy Carter??

Yes, I meant Bush - worse president of our lifetime (even thought he did good with aids in Africa). Lied about Iraq, huge budget deficits. Since you brought up 9/11, it was on his watch.

Funny you bring up class - That is a good one.

In the last few months, I have converted my entire 401(k) to cash...

Interest rates have nowhere to go but up. That means mortgage rates have nowhere to go but up, which means housing prices can only go down. Inflation has nowhere to go but up (inevitable result of the way we are printing money). Local, state, and federal taxes will go WAY up (already starting here in CT). Gas prices will be at all-time highs this summer. Instability in the middle east. Iran and Israel headed for a showdown. 10,000 baby boomers A DAY are turning 65, meaning they are eligible for social security and Medicare (we don't have the money for that)...

And we have Barney Fife in the Oval Office.

I love it when liberals do this...you insult my comment, with not one shred of evidence to support it.

Bush had his share of critics, and he refused to attack them. Obama gets prickly with everyone who refuses to kiss his ring. Remember Obama's response to Paul Ryan's budget...Obama said that the GOP wants disabled kids "to fend for themselves". Obama said Republicans should "sit in the back of the bus".

Say what you want about Bush, he didn't do those things. If I'm wrong, and maybe I am, please show me the support. Good luck!

You also fault Bush for his harmful deficits (which I fault him for, too). So what about Oabma, whose deficits dwarf Bush's? Why do you give him a pass?

Answer - you are an ideologue, who praises all liberals, and attacks all conservatives.

Calling the president of the US a scum bag, Barney Fife shows class? :biglaugh:

Yes, I blame Obama for the deficts.

I voted for both Bushes (worse voting mistakes I made) but now I"m an idologue?:biglaugh:

Where am I constantly praising liberals and attacking conservatives? Most of my posts here point out the hypocrisy of the posters for are constantly posting criticism w/o recognizing that their polictical god did/does the same or pointing out the pettiness of their posts.

Here is the difference Paul...I'm not talking about me. If you want to say I have no class, fine, I never said I did.

I think Bush has tons of class (too much for politics), and I said why. You mocked my comment, and offered to support. I thought you were syaing Bush had no class, maybe you just meant that I had no business talking baout class?

Maybe I'm too abrasive, but that doesn't mean I can't distinguish between a true gentleman (Bush) and a whiny, thin-skinned, vindictive brat like Obama.

Again, I assumed you were saying Bush didn't have more class than Obama, which in my opinion would be a crazy thing to say. If you were attacking me, that's fair...

What has Obama done to compare with Bush's saving 1.2 million lives?

Not saying Bush/Obama has more class than the other. I've never criticized or praised either of them for that. I try not to get so petty that I'm making posts about whether a pres. or his wife did something in deference to the other VIPs traditiions.

I've always said Bush did a good job w/aids in Africa and I've seen him praised for it. I've never made this arguement but why wouldn't Obama get praised with saving US lives w/the health care reform? All non-biased experts say it will save lives. If people are against the law, they won't admit that fact.

quite a statement :uhuh:

Bush Jr. had no class...his father did.

I liked the old man I think he did a good job. For the most part LOL

american health care
 

hey! i just got in some new pills for that... :uhuh:

gee....your feet are swelling up like balloons you say?
well we had better switch you over to these pills then....

if you have been taking "these Pills" let us Know because
we have a class action suit that you should be part of...

A certain amount of loss of life with this medication
is to be expected.
it is an acceptable risk and loss of life is only 1 % of the population.

remember when we said it was okay to take these....sorry we were wrong....
we F'd up ....better not take those anymore.

the food and drug administration has reversed it's findings.

I'm against the law, and I do not admit that "fact", because of course it's not a fact, at least not yet.

Healthcare in socialized nations is "better" in the sense that fewer people are uninsured, so some people at the very bottom will be better off. Will some of their lives be saved? Yes.

Is that the end of the story? No. Because the other thing that happens in socialized countries (that have plans like Obamacare) is that the overall quality of care tends to go down (because doctors get paid a lot less, so fewer smart people go into medicine, so there are fewer docs to go around). Ask someone in Canada how easy it is to go to the doctor when you are sick. Many of those countries have astronomical rates of government-ordered euthenasia, because there simply isn't enough money to treat these people.

Some of those countries might have 0% uninsured, but the statistics for things like cancer survival rates, are also worse than we see here, because the overall quality of care will inevitably decline.

Obamacare (if it goes through) may push everyone closer to an average level of care, but that new average level of care will be lower than it is today. That's an inevitable result of socialism, it cannot be avoided. Like everything else, liberals think the solution to healthcare is to spend jillions of dollars (someone else's dollars) on it. And like everyhting else, we will learn that money doesn't solve many of these problems. Here is how I know that - Government spending is much higher now than it was 10 years ago, and I don't know anyone who's better off because of it, no one I know.

So while the folks at the bottom will be helped, others will be hurt, because of the average drop in care. That will cost some lives. Will the number of lives lost be greater than the number of lives saved? Who knows.

And if we judge a political party by wanting to save lives, I'm QUITE comfortable in saying that conservatives care a whole lot more about saving lives than liberals. Think about 4,000 unborn babies a day getting slaughtered (that number is correct by the way, four thousand a day), and 90% of those are done for sheer convenience (no health issues for the mom), and then tell me that conservatives don't care about others...

Obama, as a state senator in IL, literally supported a mom's right to kill her baby after the baby was born, and after it was outside the womb. That is monstrous, it is repugnant. I'm not exaggerating one bit...that's what he did, and we elected that ghoul to be president. So please spare me the lecture about his compassion for others.