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I would like to thank Harry Reid for invoking the nuclear option when it suited his needs. What’s good for the goose.

For SCOTUS?
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It's a precedent in Senate procedure. Did Reid think it would only be used in the way HE wanted? As in the SCOTUS, precedent can spread like a virus. And as we have said, over and over, the left was warned that its precedents would come back to bite them.

The nuclear can of worms has been opened.
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Why?
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Ask Harry Reid. He opened it.

Exactly. You have a problem with it, write a letter to Harry Reid. He opened it. Time to stick it up his azz.
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Such non answers
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Your one word, totally general, non-specific question was, I assume, a sly way to lead into focusing some kind of unnamed blame on the current use of the nuclear option and brush Reid's culpability under the rug. The "non-answers" focused the blame back onto the originator, and implied that the answer you want is also the answer to why Reid created the nuclear option.

Reid started this. Am I going too fast? Reid was warned by chuck Schumer that the gop would eventually use the nuclear option against the dems. He was right.
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Your answers add nothing to the discussion.... (I detest this style of debate, as I do the current style of governing by winning at all costs...)

I just assumed that you were aware of the history of this rule of order, brought to the Senate floor by Mr Reid. It allows passage of vote by simple majority of 51, which is an easier target to attain than the normal passage vote needed which was 60.


So end result is, after an eight year reign where a group played with the rules to hold us by the short hairs.... the tide has changed and is being used against those who invoked this option.


Please note, Jeff, that this is NOT a pro-Trump post. Simply an answer to your answers feigning surprise and disdain…..

I'd prefer 9 middle of the roaders.

As it should be.... to judge each case on merit, not political affiliation.

To take it a step further, I would prefer 100 middle of the roaders in the Senate too.

Good Luck with that, our state can't even come up with 2.

They already have. Blaming this on Reid is silly, the Republicans removed the restriction for SCOTUS. They've already gone there.

All the GOP can say is at least we didn't steal this one....

Hence my point that the GOP has already used it to push Neil Gorsuch through. There's no can of worms that's been opened, we're far past that. Jim's just so giddy because he thinks Roe is going to be overturned he can't think straight.

This is exactly what I find so nauseating. You project the idea of a landmark decision being overturned into a discussion about the procedure of appointment.... and then assign that idea to another, if only to propagate your agenda. It reminds me of debating with conspiracy theorists about NASA, 9/11, Newtown, flat earth, etc....

I don't think there are any "middle of the roader's" in today's environment. There will always be issues with any nominee by both sides. This is bound to be nasty, I watched some clips of Clarence Thomas where he basically said he was "lynched" in the approval process. Trumps lasting legacy whether we like it or not will be the shape of the Supreme Court in years to come.

I warned you..... ; )

Goes on to say this was R's fault for blocking O's nominees, and that R's said to HR don't do this. HR gave middle finger yada yada yada

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.7900470a61af

What did they steal , exactly? The nomination of the nut obama wanted? The American citizens freely chose to give senate control to the gop. As obama liked to say, elections have consequences. I don’t think voters gave the senate to the gop, so they could let obama replace Scalia with a liberal nut job. If the American people don’t like what Mitch McConnell did, they have the opportunity every two years to make a change. So far, they have chosen to leave the senate with the gop, and it’s a safe bet they will keep the senate in November, the seats up for re election could not possibly align any better for the republicans.
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Reid did it in 2013, which last time I checked, was before Gorsuch got confirmed.

I don’t expect roe to get overturned. I do expect a shift away from liberal activism, and damn right that has me giddy. I remember exactly how I felt whan I heard Scalia died, I can’t believe how much better things are than I feared, all because McConnell finally grew a pair and held off obama.
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Oooohhhhhhh

The Burn

https://twitter.com/senorrinhatch/st...75217584295938

Merrick Garland was a nut? Is that based on Obama nominating him, therefore he must be an evil progressive? What do you actually know about him other than that he was nominated by Obama?

I’m basing it on the fact that obama wanted him. And the tiny, tiny bit I read. I didn’t write his biography. And I was using hyperbole, I don’t actually suspect he was mentally ill.
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Because they're all interrelated politically...no conspiracy here.

Reid specifically said it wasn't allowed for SCOTUS. The Republicans changed that rule to push Gorsuch through which they likely would have done regardless of what Reid did in 2013.

It is widely viewed that he pulled the race card by saying that when he was questioned on the sexual aspects of his dealings w/Anita Hill.

It is also widely viewed that the dems played the race card, from the bottom of the deck, by claiming that a black man was not to be trusted around women. That was actually when I became a republican, after I saw what they did to Clarence Thomas.
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Ahh. So since you speculate that they might have done it anyway, that means Reid didn’t open the can of worms.
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