I find it pretty sad that I find myself who is pretty much an atheist has stronger christian beliefs that most christians out there. I give to charity, I would welcome a stranger in who might need help, I don't judge others and I am pretty much a pacifist. But the hate, the fear, the ignorant whitewashing i have seen lately by those who wear their religions on their sleeves as a badge of pride is really sad. I suppose we will all be judged by our actions in the end.
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"I'm not being judgmental, but I find your opinions to be loathsome." Nebe, what evidence do you have that your actions are superior to those whom you are attacking, and I presume you are talking about me? I am a devout, thought obviously flawed, Catholic. There is nothing, absolutely NOTHING in the catechism, to suggest that when a group of people want nothing more than to kill my whole family, that as a Catholic I'm supposed to respond with hugs. Again, did you feel your grandfather was an accomplice to genocide? If not, why were his actions any diferent than what you think I am suggesting. There were Japanese citizens that wanted nothing to do with the war, and thousands of them were fried to death during the napalm bombing carried out by the US. Was that "genocide" on our part? Was it unethical? What was the alternative, to let Japan continue to rape their way across China, and continue to eat the flesh of captured enemies? Because that's what they were doing. And they were not going to stop until they were brought to their knees. And this enemy has many of the same attributes as the Japanese that you rgrandfather helped kill (or woud you call it "murder"?) at Tarawa. They are fanatics who, simply, will not stop. Ever. |
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Plenty of insults from you (he's a genocidal racist!!). But you cannot counter one single thing he said. All you did was hurl insults. And that's my opinion of classic liberalism, in a nutshell. When you know you cannot refute what we are saying, you hurl claims of hate and racism instead. It's a tiresome and predictable response to what was a fair question by me. |
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Do you have any idea how many Japanese civilians were killed bu the napalm bombing, and the atomic weapons, that we used? Hundreds of thousands. Many were women and children who wanted nothing to do with the war. Your grandfather was a part of that effort. We did that, becaise the Japanese forced us to do it. If they stopped murdering, raping, and eating everyone in their path, we would have been more than happy to lay down our arms. But they wouldn't stop. When one side wages war, particularly barnaric war like the Japanese and ISIS are doing, the only way to stop them is to get almost as ugly as they are. That's a horrible thing. I don't like it, i hate it. But it's reality. And Islamic jihadists aren't equally committed to fightring to the death? How many have surrendered? "The difference between that situation and this situation is that not every middle eastern muslim poses a death threat to you or me" That does NOT make a distinction betweed WWII and th ewar with teror. As I said, we killed hundreds of thousands of Japanese women and babies who posed no direct threat to anyone. But th eonly way to end th ewar, was to annihilate centers of Japanese industry, which were in civilian areas. So we did it. We didn't like it. We did it because they forced us to do it. "The swede is not wrong on paper, but is fundamentally morally wrong. I bet he is also a white supremacist " There we go!! I admit everything he said was correct, but because I don't like what his truthful statements mean, he must be a racist! He must be dismissed, because otherwise I might have to admit he has a point, and I'm too close-minded to ever do that! Pathetic. |
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If you are pro-life, liberals say you are attacking women's health. If you disagree with Obama, you are a racist. If you want to do what's necessary to stop ISIS, you are an Islamophobe If you want our duly constituted immigration laws enforced, you are an anti-latino bigot If you like the free market, you love Wall Street and hate the little guy If you are opposed to gay marriage, you are necessarily a homophobe If you concede that Social Security needs to be fixed, you don't like old people If youthink we should pay our teachers only what we can afford, you don't care if kids are illiterate. If you think Medicare is in financial trouble, then as Florida senate candidate Alan Greyson says, you want sick people to die. As Obama said, "Republicans gotta stop just hatin' all the time". Yup, that's all John McCain does all day, every day...he spews hate. John McCain, who adopted a girl from a 3rd world country and changed her life indescribably. Unless Obama is full of sh*t, that was an act of hate, right? I cannot stand this tactic Detbuch. Our economy, our culture, our moral compass, our physical safety, our ability to make the world a better place...all are in jeopardy. And these people refuse to engage in honest debate. |
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