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scottw 05-22-2008 02:28 PM

probably just a coincidence
 
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I wonder who they're trying to appeal to?
like I said...Marx and Mao

chunk 05-23-2008 01:06 AM

The one with Che Guevera is hilarious. Obama's not in the same league with Che or he'd get my vote.

PaulS 05-23-2008 06:52 AM

I was thinking the same thing about Bushs kissing King Abdulla (or whatever his name is ) of SA and the run up of gas prices.

scottw 05-23-2008 07:32 AM

this one is good
 
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Ayn Rand

"Both 'socialism' and 'fascism' involve the issue of property rights. The right to property is the right of use and disposal. Observe the difference in those two theories: socialism negates private property rights altogether, and advocates the 'vesting of ownership and control' in the community as a whole, i.e., in the state; fascism leaves ownership in the hands of private individuals, but transfers control of the property to the government. Ownership without control is a contradiction in terms: it means 'property,' without the right to use it or to dispose of it. It means that the citizens retain the responsibility of holding property, without any of its advantages, while the government acquires all the advantages without any of the responsibility. In this respect, socialism is the more honest of the two theories. I say 'more honest,' not better - because, in practice, there is no difference between them: both come from the same collectivist-statist principle, both negate individual rights and subordinate the individual to the collective, both deliver the livelihood and the lives of the citizens into the power of an omnipotent government - and the differences between them are only a matter of time, degree, and superficial detail, such as the choice of slogans by which the rulers delude their enslaved subjects."
- From "The New Fascism: Rule by Consensus"

Joe 05-26-2008 10:30 AM

"Property,' without the right to use it or to dispose of it."
So socialism is like if you own a car in 21st Century America? You can own it, you just can't use it or get rid of it.


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