We're Just Different People
I've often heard people say that Conservatives and Liberals basically want the same thing, they just have different ways of going about it. But a recent Reason-Rupe Poll (Sept. 1, 2011) shows that we are very different kinds of people that have different core values.
When asked whether people succeed based on a) "hard work" or b) "luck/help from others," liberals were nearly 6 times more likely to cite luck (28%) compared to conservatives (5%). When asked for one to become wealthy must it be a) "at the expensive of others" or b) "wealth can be grown so there is enough for everyone" 70% of liberals believed that wealth can only come at the expense of others compared to only 27% of conservatives. Lastly, respondents were asked to indicate which of two values is most important to teach your children, a) "to work hard and be self-reliant" or b) "to learn to share with others." Just half (51%) of liberals would teach their children to work hard and be self-reliant compare to over three-quarters (77%) of conservatives. I'd personally hate to go through life thinking that only luck (good or bad) controls my success and that my financial success can only be achieved on the backs of others while failing to teach my children the value of hard work and self-reliance. |
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The rest, of course, is up to you to be self-reliant and hard working :) |
The the belief in hard work and self-reliance seems to be being replaced with the government (or someone else) will do that for me...I'm entitled to it!
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I don't know of a school or business that looks for slackards and or rewards them. Hard work brings a feeling of confidence, self worth and respect by others, which leads to opportunities that a slackard will never find. The hard worker looks at his work and says "well done." A slackard says to the hard worker, "Sucker," and falls into loathing himself. |
Who was it that said..."The Harder I work the Luckier I get"
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"I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it." ~Thomas Jefferson
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I tend to go to extremes and can say first hand if you work too hard or too well you get shunned. No body wants someone around who makes them look bad, so guys like me end up getting the shaft. Knowing someone gets your foot in doors not open to others and is a major factor in my eyes. Luck is also involved, although people who have it don't recognize it. Being in the right place at the right time or being born into the right family are what I would consider luck.
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I hope this isn't taken with offense. |
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Then when working private sector jobs and getting harassed and called a brown noser all the time because you take your job seriously you tend to just say F-it I give up and choose to live a simple life without much, yeah I loose. Good thing my family owned a business (union shop) where I learned my work ethic (always being watched and set an example) which they sold so I have a trust fund for my future. |
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However, hardworkers can be forced to slow down so as not to make others look bad. That would not stand in the private sector...not in this economy |
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I am pretty mixed on the union / non-union thing but I have been personally told by some union members I worked with ( I was not union) to slow down as I was making them look bad. I was too ambitious. |
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I'm seeing the same thing in the government.....9 of us in my code....8 working....1 worthless POS.....He'll never get tossed. |
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-spence |
Lastly, respondents were asked to indicate which of two values is most important to teach your children, a) "to work hard and be self-reliant" or b) "to learn to share with others."
Why are these two mutually exclusive? :confused: That's the trouble with these kinds of polls. The choices they give put words in your mouth! |
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shouldn't be more important then the other. There should be no problem in being a hard worker and having a giving spirit. |
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So, given a trade-off, liberals are more likely to choose "sharing." |
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STOP THE PRESSES!!! Let's look at the actual poll instead of snippets... Reason-Rupe Surveys : Reason Magazine What it seems to indicate is that the majority of Americans don't fit into either of the two categories presented above. What it also seems to indicate is that when broken down by party, people who would identify as democrats and independents scored pretty close to each other. Another element is that the category questions separate "libertarian" from "conservative" while in the real world these are often combined. The net effect if this is to concentrate the "conservative" numbers. This is reflected when you look at the difference between the two tables. If anything this poll confirms what we already knew, that our nation is made up of a diverse set of viewpoints, but that we share more in common than some would like you to believe. -spence |
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I'd wager that if you asked other loaded questions you'd get the Right end of the question responding in an equally off center manner. -spence |
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