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Donliberals similarly decry the riots that liberal college students engage in? Do the schools track these kids down and expel them? Hell, no. That is the difference. Mainstream conservative pundits despise racists. Mainstream liberal pundits do not despise liberal anarchists. Liberal anarchists who silence the opposition, are accepted, if not celebrated. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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When Steve King makes what many people view as a racist comment like "other people's babies" some denounce it but others don't. He did get elected overhelmingly. It is the same thing. You just see what you want to see. |
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Please show me some facts, to convince me that liberals (influential liberals), by and large, oppose these revolutionary, anarchist tactics. Because what I see, is college kids always getting a free pass when conservative speakers are whisked away by security. I see Black Lives Matter not getting challenged anywhere other than Foxnews. I see Abu Mumia Jamal treated like a hero. I see Obama invited Al Shapton to the Oval Office more than 50 times. I wouldn't go so far as to say that the liberal establishment advocates for the destruction of property. But they sure as hell encourage their base to throw tantrums when they don't get exactly what they want, exactly when they want it. |
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Those schools also based things on tradition (mostly good) though less so these days. Other schools also had things based on tradition but that is oppressive privileged racism Quote:
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When there is a riot that is triggered by political unrest, what percentage of the time is it liberals who are rioting, and what percentage of the time is it conservatives rioting? Because if it's "the same thing" as you say, then 50% of politically motivated riots should be carried out by conservatives. Do you want to say with a straight face, that it's anywhere near 50%? In fact, it's a lot closer to zero. Why is that, Paul? I await your answer. Just so you know, telling me that I'm full of hate, isn't answering the question I asked. So try another approach. |
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Why did you duck the question about Steve King. If he makes racist comments why isn't that reflective of all conservatives? I don't think it does but using your logic it would. |
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And .... if any female ever deserved the C word , it's Elizabeth Warren Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Only thing that might get in the way of that is the Constitution, The 3 branches of Government, 50 separate state governments, and 99% of the 320,000,000 people that aren't stupid enough to let that happen. How about instead of shouting him down and getting his appearance canceled, they show up to it, engage him in constructive debate, and show everybody, civilly, that is ideas are incorrect. |
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"Why did you duck the question about Steve King" You didn't ask a question, you made a statement. Here is what you said, an exact quote... When Steve King makes what many people view as a racist comment like "other people's babies" some denounce it but others don't. He did get elected overwhelmingly If there's a question in there, I apologize, I don't see it. Now, can you answer mine? Paul, when I ask a question, and you respond by calling me a hatemonger, that is me winning. |
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I'll ask AGAIN, since you didn't answer it yesterday (shocker)...you don't think there has ever been a woman, in the history of the world, who deserved that description? As to Steve King's comments, they were very offensive. But if what he was trying to say, is that we cannot let people into the country who don't embrace our culture, he is 100% correct. We have room for many different ethnicities. We only have room for one culture. |
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Anything to avoid admitting that the Republicans might have a better stance on any issue. "How about instead of shouting him down and getting his appearance canceled, they show up to it, engage him in constructive debate, and show everybody, civilly, that is ideas are incorrect" Very, very well said. The reason why they don't do that, is because they can't. College kids aren't ever exposed to points of view other than liberalism, they never see liberalism challenged, so they have no idea how to defend it. Much easier to throw a brick through a window. and then still claim that you are more tolerant than the other guy. That's the part that gets me. I am a parent, I understand the impulse of babies to throw temper tantrums. What I don't understand, is that in the very next nanosecond, these rioters claim to be on the side of diversity and tolerance. Liberalism: diversity in everything, except ideas! |
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They invite Comedians to speak on campuses all the time. Is everything they say based on fact? Is everything that comes out of their mouth considered not offensive to anyone? again, if you don't like him, don't come....or show up and try to engage in a civil discourse with him. but instead we get this....real grown up of them https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...bhJ/story.html |
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Murray's views have been "discredited" (falsely in my opinion) by some, but supported by others (see the link I posted above as an "expert" example). The purpose of having him speak is to put his views on display so that the audience has some direct evidence, from his mouth to their ears, on which to help make a judgement. And, usually, if the discourse is civil and not threatened with disruptive noise or violence, there are Q & A sessions after the speech in which points and counterpoints can be clarified and discussed--civilly--if civility is allowed. Not inviting someone to speak, especially if he is "controversial," because there will be those who are "pissed #^&#^&#^&#^& is being a partner to the elimination of free speech, to the promotion of only allowing certain speech, to allowing mobs and criminals to dictate what is allowed, and to promoting ignorance and to the capture of social norms and behaviors by radical authoritarians. |
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It's OK for people to throw offensive bombs, as long as those bombs are aimed at conservatives. Paul, Ben Shapiro is another hated conservative whose appearance on campus often triggers riots. He's a staunch conservative, but he' snot a racist or a hatemonger., He's a slightly watered down version of Ann Coulter. But he's smart, and he's conservative, therefore he must be silenced. You make it sound like the only conservatives who trigger riots are Klansmen. Not so. |
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I don't think that's what Paul means (he's more fair than that), but sure as hell it's what many liberals mean. |
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I mean it more like the views of the protesters...I fixed it |
Funny that whenever there is ANY socially-charged event, one that get hyped up by the media, that there are SO MANY student protestors that feel the need to voice their opinion?
Of course you have to add the fact that some schools had "rearranged" their classes so that they could be able to protest without missing any of their "educational discussions" (aka further indoctrinations). Looking at the generations of "mental giants" some of our schools are turning out, like a conveyor belt with no quality control, it's no wonder they follow like lemmings to the sea! |
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An excellent quote from the Sowell article in the OC Register;
"Academia, however, is ground zero in the war against people whose ideas go against the current political correctness. The virtual monopoly of the political left, on campuses across the country, allows all sorts of things to be attributed to people the left disagrees with, irrespective of whether those people have ever said anything resembling what they are alleged to have said." Warren is the epitome of this school of thought where the masses are churned into an unaccepting frenzy by a fish wife. |
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people paid to hear him speak, they don't get to decide whether you should be allowed to listen. Saying that its OK to act like that is akin to giving a 2 year old that cookie to stop his temper tantrum... |
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Some may, some may have actually welcomed the chance to listen and form their own opinion of what he is saying. some may have come to behave like adults and debate his concepts. Again, nobody has the right to deny you the right to listen to somebody speak, or to deny somebody the right to speak. |
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From liberals, yes. From conservatives, no. I would like to know why that is. Why can conservatives tolerate that which offends them, but not liberals? Paul, not speaking in absolutes by any means, just generalizations, OK? |
It is stunning that someone who claims to be moral, fair minded, objective, a centrist who sees the good and bad of all sides, can flat out, without reservation, criticism, or dismay, say that irrational disorderly conduct should be expected from those who have graduated through our educational systems and are currently enrolled and taught in our higher educational institutions.
If he cannot comment on the failure of our supposedly liberal institutions to teach our children the value of free speech and polite moral behavior, then it appears that he is blind to the failure, or embraces the rude, destructive behavior as actually the right and moral thing to do--and lauds our educational system for turning out such beings. |
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If you look at all politically-motivated riots over the last 10 years (not just on college campuses), what % do you think were started by conservatives, and what % do you think were stared by liberals? Gets tiresome, Paul. A little intellectual honesty would be appreciated. If you really think that liberals don't engage in riots at a rate that is disproportionate to their portion of the population, then we should stop responding to each other altogether. |
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That is like my saying the we know the kkk is racist and supports rep. therefore all reps. are racist. If you really think that cons. don't engage in racism at a rate that is disproportionate to their portion of the population, then we should stop responding to each other altogether. |
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