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spence 11-14-2018 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1155363)
You mean the Russians don't already own Trump?

I think the question of Russians laundering money through the Trump Organization and holding tremendous influence over the sitting POTUS is something that deserves a serious looking into, assuming Mueller doesn't already have the answers...and this isn't a partisan statement.

detbuch 11-14-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1155373)
I think the question of Russians laundering money through the Trump Organization and holding tremendous influence over the sitting POTUS is something that deserves a serious looking into, assuming Mueller doesn't already have the answers...and this isn't a partisan statement.

Why in the hell does that "question" take so long to answer? It didn't take long to nail Manafort. Mueller didn't take that much time to indict a bunch of Russians--as meaningless as that was. Cohen was taken down pretty quick. It looks like Stone and Corsi will be indicted in short order.

It shouldn't take that much time to get someone as stupid, incompetent, shallow, unserious, careless, and so loaded with lies and corruption as you make Trump out to be. Were talking the FBI with a host of tricky, ravenous lawyers who have a record for bringing down their prey by any means necessary.

spence 11-14-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1155380)
Why in the hell does that "question" take so long to answer? It didn't take long to nail Manafort. Mueller didn't take that much time to indict a bunch of Russians--as meaningless as that was. Cohen was taken down pretty quick. It looks like Stone and Corsi will be indicted in short order.

It shouldn't take that much time to get someone as stupid, incompetent, shallow, unserious, careless, and so loaded with lies and corruption as you make Trump out to be. Were talking the FBI with a host of tricky, ravenous lawyers who have a record for bringing down their prey by any means necessary.

This investigation seems to be going very quickly and is producing a lot of results compared to others of this importance.

detbuch 11-14-2018 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1155383)
This investigation seems to be going very quickly and is producing a lot of results compared to others of this importance.

Finally, some crystal clarity rather than the usual insinuations, peripheral maybes, accusations, name-calling, labeling, and murky suppositions.

Got Stripers 11-14-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1155380)
someone as stupid, incompetent, shallow, unserious, careless, and so loaded with lies and corruption.

Finally something that makes sense, your starting to see the light!
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Nebe 11-14-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1155387)
Finally something that makes sense, your starting to see the light!
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X2
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Sea Dangles 11-14-2018 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1155383)
This investigation seems to be going very quickly and is producing a lot of results compared to others of this importance.

Are you going to make another prediction regarding this matter Jeff? You have a track record on things like this. Tell us what your insiders say.
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detbuch 11-14-2018 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1155387)
Finally something that makes sense, your starting to see the light!
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For someone who embraces seeing the light, it is a deceitful leap back into darkness for you to leave out the words between the period and the last word of my sentence which you quoted. :devil2:

Got Stripers 11-14-2018 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1155392)
For someone who embraces seeing the light, it is a deceitful leap back into darkness for you to leave out the words between the period and the last word of my sentence which you quoted. :devil2:

Back into darkness, oh goodness no, I was looking to lighten it up, this forum is dark enough as it is.
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detbuch 11-14-2018 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1155399)
Back into darkness, oh goodness no, I was looking to lighten it up, this forum is dark enough as it is.
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That's why I added the emoticon.

spence 11-14-2018 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1155391)
Are you going to make another prediction regarding this matter Jeff? You have a track record on things like this. Tell us what your insiders say.
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Is my track record based on reality or you reading Scott’s posts. What is my track record?
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Ian 11-15-2018 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1155359)
It’s easy to mock what you don’t understand.
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Isn’t this Trump’s tagline?
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Sea Dangles 11-15-2018 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1155404)
Is my track record based on reality or you reading Scott’s posts. What is my track record?
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Who is Scott? And what does he have to do with you making predictions that never come true?
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PaulS 11-15-2018 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 1155407)
Isn’t this Trump’s tagline?
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Listening to his rallies it is funny.

"lock her up" for a woman who hasn't been arrested for anything when you are shouting it w/a Pres. under investigation and dozens of his staff arrested, indicted or under investigation

"drain the swamp" when you have cabinet members and people in the admin. who have lost their jobs for using their office to benefit from it.

What is the definition of mouth breather?

scottw 11-15-2018 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1155428)

w/a Pres. under investigation and dozens of his staff arrested, indicted or under investigation

huh?

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-...-trump-2017-12

PaulS 11-15-2018 09:08 AM

A performance of “Fiddler on the Roof” in Baltimore Wednesday night was marred by a man yelling “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump,” according to the Baltimore Sun.

Sea Dangles 11-15-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1155434)
A performance of “Fiddler on the Roof” in Baltimore Wednesday night was marred by a man yelling “Heil Hitler, Heil Trump,” according to the Baltimore Sun.

Her name was Michelle Obama.
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fishbones 11-15-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1155435)
Her name was Michelle Obama.
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Hahahahaha!
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Pete F. 11-15-2018 01:04 PM

“Veterans Day often follows a hard-fought political campaign, an exercise in the free speech and self-government that you fought for. It often lays bare disagreements across our nation. But the American instinct has never been to find isolation in opposite corners. It is to find strength in our common creed, to forge unity from our great diversity, to sustain that strength and unity even when it is hard.

“It’s the example of the single most diverse institution in our country—soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and coastguardsmen who represent every corner of our country, every shade of humanity, immigrant and native-born, Christian, Muslim, Jew, and nonbeliever alike, all forged into common service.”
Barack Obama at Arlington, Veterans Day 2016

I suppose he could have stayed in the White House and sulked.

detbuch 11-19-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1155451)
“Veterans Day often follows a hard-fought political campaign, an exercise in the free speech and self-government that you fought for. It often lays bare disagreements across our nation. But the American instinct has never been to find isolation in opposite corners. It is to find strength in our common creed, to forge unity from our great diversity, to sustain that strength and unity even when it is hard.

“It’s the example of the single most diverse institution in our country—soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and coastguardsmen who represent every corner of our country, every shade of humanity, immigrant and native-born, Christian, Muslim, Jew, and nonbeliever alike, all forged into common service.”
Barack Obama at Arlington, Veterans Day 2016

I suppose he could have stayed in the White House and sulked.

He regrets that he didn't go, and says he should have gone, but he reveals, contrary to the false notions created by various media. This is a very good interview with him by Chris Wallace. It covers a lot of things, including what HE means by fake news as opposed to what the media says he means:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=e9pPFpGoy5E

detbuch 11-19-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1155294)
It is.

I saw something yesterday, a couple posts by a couple people smarter than me, that hit on a few points. A politician (Macron) is going to Politik.

But maybe Nationalism is different in other countries where the culture is pretty homogeneous. You know the French are mostly French, 'cept when they've been invaded (from Germany you Dog Whistle Hearers). The Germans thinking the German race is the master race, etc.

But with America we celebrate shared ideals. We are not French or Germans or Sri Lankans (except for those that want to divide us along those lines). Since as Americans we are a mix of all different things we try to bind along ideals like opportunity and liberty. That yes, Americans should move our interest and ideals first and be the inspiration for other people to do the same.

A little nationalism in our ideals, Freedom and Opportunity is a good thing. Ultra-nationalism based on skin color and ethnicity is what is dumb, and is, ya know, racist and fascist.

I don't think what you say here is a difficult concept to understand. Your idea of what is now being touted as an American nationalism is what Bannon refers to as American economic nationalism and what Trump refers to when he claims to be a nationalist.

But the anti-Trump media either can't, or won't recognize Trump's easy to understand version by insisting on another version promulgated by Mussolini and Hitler, in which nationalism has strong ingredients of racism, fascism. This insinuates that Trump is a fascist racist whatever. And I believe that they stubbornly refuse to recognize the version you speak of in order to intentionally cast Trump as a fascist racist. As I say, it is not at all difficult to understand your version, nor Trump's version which is virtually the same as yours. Which is why I think the media intentionally distorts the truth and is "fake" when it does so.

Pete F. 11-19-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1155701)
He regrets that he didn't go, and says he should have gone, but he reveals, contrary to the false notions created by various media. This is a very good interview with him by Chris Wallace. It covers a lot of things, including what HE means by fake news as opposed to what the media says he means:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=e9pPFpGoy5E

I don't have time to rebut all of Trumps false claims in this interview, he continually issues false statements or half-truths and claims that they are true.
Listen to this supposed Clinton supporter, who's given more to this country than Trump could ever think of
https://youtu.be/K5D6z0VSpEc

Sea Dangles 11-19-2018 02:28 PM

Fake news
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spence 11-19-2018 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1155701)
He regrets that he didn't go, and says he should have gone, but he reveals, contrary to the false notions created by various media. This is a very good interview with him by Chris Wallace. It covers a lot of things, including what HE means by fake news as opposed to what the media says he means:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=e9pPFpGoy5E

He regrets not going because of the bad press, not because it means anything to him personally.

As for the interview, he didn’t look good.
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scottw 11-19-2018 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1155703)

I don't have time to rebut all of Trumps false claims in this interview

https://youtu.be/K5D6z0VSpEc

sure ya do...

go for it .

spence 11-19-2018 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1155703)
I don't have time to rebut all of Trumps false claims in this interview, he continually issues false statements or half-truths and claims that they are true.
Listen to this supposed Clinton supporter, who's given more to this country than Trump could ever think of
https://youtu.be/K5D6z0VSpEc

Not to mention disparaging such a respected and dedicated military hero. You have to wonder if he has any concept for patriotism, sacrifice, duty...
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Pete F. 11-19-2018 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1155702)
I don't think what you say here is a difficult concept to understand. Your idea of what is now being touted as an American nationalism is what Bannon refers to as American economic nationalism and what Trump refers to when he claims to be a nationalist.

But the anti-Trump media either can't, or won't recognize Trump's easy to understand version by insisting on another version promulgated by Mussolini and Hitler, in which nationalism has strong ingredients of racism, fascism. This insinuates that Trump is a fascist racist whatever. And I believe that they stubbornly refuse to recognize the version you speak of in order to intentionally cast Trump as a fascist racist. As I say, it is not at all difficult to understand your version, nor Trump's version which is virtually the same as yours. Which is why I think the media intentionally distorts the truth and is "fake" when it does so.

He knows he's blowing a dogwhistle and you respond every time, like a good obedient Trump Nationalist.

He's not a narcissist at all: "I would give myself, I would -- look, I hate to do it, but I will do it. I would give myself an A-plus, is that enough? Can I go higher than that?"

And when the media doesn't concur, he then judges them fake

And then you have Real news written by a Real president consisting of halftruths, falsehoods and a remark that would be expected from a sixth grader :biglaugh:

So funny to see little Adam Schitt (D-CA) talking about the fact that Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker was not approved by the Senate, but not mentioning the fact that Bob Mueller (who is highly conflicted) was not approved by the Senate!

Hopefully you can figure out the lack of truth in the tweet above, or perhaps in your's and Trump's America, Trumps claims outweigh the rule of law.

scottw 11-19-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1155709)

He knows he's blowing a dogwhistle

leftists need some new material...

PaulS 11-19-2018 03:37 PM

Pres. Trump has said that he has made a lot of sacrifices.

RIROCKHOUND 11-19-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1155718)
Pres. Trump has said that he has made a lot of sacrifices.

Avoiding STD's was his Vietnam, after all... :nailem::nailem::nailem::nailem:


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