Hillary Trotting Out That Old Chestnut!!!
 

Running on the "Affordable Health Care For Everyone" platform??? Seems another President rode that tired pony to victory 2 times......never put an honest foot forward in making it happen.....did he?!?!?!?!

She sucks!:rocketem:

Former govenor "Mitt the spit" (republican) enacted the first in the country a similar heath care policy in Mass.
If it is successful, there will be other states that will follow suit with or without Hillary.

If i remember right Bill did try to make it happen but it was shot down

Yeah Jeez Larry. it would suck to have better health care in the country.
She isnt my favorite nom, but it isnt over that issue.

The healthcare system in this country is as big a bloated corrupt pig as the worst government programs. Considering the massive amount of cash in the system there's got to be a better way to make it work.

Single payer may not be the best option, but aside from Mitt you're not going to see anything but the status quo from the GOP.

Bash Hillary, kill the debate, more business as usual :rolleyes:

-spence

I don't have a problem with affordable healthcare for all......this is the 3rd time the Clintons have mounted this horse.....when are folks gonna see through this lame platform?

me and the wife pay $440 mo. oooch....

Why is it lame? Because it's a hard problem?

-spence

Spence....I don't believe in her sincerity to actually follow through to make it a reality any more than I believed Bill Clinton when he used it as his platform in both of his Presidential bids! :huh:

I think its a wheelbarrow full of manure!:rolleyes:

Do you believe any politician?

-spence

No I don't.....but my point is this is the same old song and dance!

And it isn't the same for just about everyone else? Hell, at least She's willing to debate the issue.

-spence

You think healthcare is expensive now?

Wait until it's "free."

:faga:

she doesn't debate ....she preaches health care....

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She sucks!:rocketem:[/quote]

did ya see her over the weekend in the black and white outfit

she looked terrible....like a bloated penguin...

she is such a retard... may she be struck by lightning... :btu:

oh yeah ..... America isn't that LUCKY :bc:

talk about gas prices you BEOTCH

You are fortunate to have been given a window into the future of nationalized healtcare by simply observing the healtcare our returning Vets are getting.

Think healtcare is bad now imagine a system without incentive.

*ouch*

i dont think thats a fair comparison. Id compare it to Canada..

with ....
 

the price of food....on the rise as a direct result of
increased fuel prices... increasing mail costs,
and increased health costs too...
you would think....that a return to the victory
garden would be a great idea....right now

Even a 4' x 8' (the size of a sheet of plywood)
garden growing vertical on the back side can
feed a family of two most vegetables...especially
using the "square foot method"... where you harvest
say a head of lettuce and replant that square foot at the
exact same time... with something else...:tooth:

for a family of four you double that size. :rollem:

raven.. are you a PBS Victory garden fan?

not really Nebe... strictly a food grower
there's only one person that handles my produce

and that would be me...

i laugh when i see stuff selling for 5 bucks a pound :rotflmao:

and i have way more ........than i need.

my garden is like 40 by 40 .... for only 2 people.

i always think of
 

world war 2 ( not that i was alive then)

when everyone turned in their copper

to help with the war effort...

thats why i think growing food
ourselves is better...

so thats what i meant by a victory garden..
in that same theme...

you dont have to import from california
or south america what you can grow here.

i agree. I asked about he tv show because bob crocket was freinds with my grandparents.. ive got some funny stories about the corner of the garden you never saw on tv :smokin:

:bl2: I loved that show.....Now I know why. :smokin:

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many "friends" of the Clintons.

1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.



9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas .



10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.



11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.



12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiance of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiance, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiance.



13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.



14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.



15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.



16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.



17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.



18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.



19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.



20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.



21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.



22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve #^&#^&#^&#^&son in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.



23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.



24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.



25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.



26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.



27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.



29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988



30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.



31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.



33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".



34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.



35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan



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[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']Hillary for president?...come on get real.[/FONT]
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[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']She will be here tomorrow with Bill at the tabernacle in OB. For 50 bucks you can see listen to their spiel. For 1300 you can get to the lawn cocktail party in edgartown and for 2300+ you can get some else...not specified.:faga: [/FONT]
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[FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']I think the tide is good at squibby that night, I know where I will be.:uhoh: [/FONT]

Same thing happened with Bush and social security, bash bush, kill the debate, problem still remains.

that victory garden stuff..... very insightful

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