Environment
I guess if he can't fix the healthcare system, maintain a travel ban or build his grand wall; he can sign an executive order to screw the environment. There is a forward thinking president, but I guess if you think global warming is fake news, it's time to fire up some old coal fired plants.
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I guess, like the generals and ISIS, Trump knows more about this issue than Bob Murray.... |
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To say the Obama destroyed low-cost power in America is laughable and wasn't worthy of acknowledgement. Natural Gas (and fracking) is killing coal. That is a trend that predates Obama. |
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Murray's point above was that automation/equipment has increased productivity which reduces the number of jobs needed |
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And technology making coal mining more efficient is a historical trend, not just a reaction to Obama regulations. And, even though tech advances reduce the need of manpower in existing plants, opening up federal lands to coal mining will require a new crop of jobs if there is still any life left in coal. I don't know if any of this makes any difference, good or bad, but there are arguments both ways. I am not confident in saying any projection or prophecy is laughable. I am a skeptic when it comes to any prediction. But I do think that a free market produces better "economy" than a highly regulated one. |
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I'll admit, regulations are tough to enforce in a relevant manner at a blanket level, but to just trust that a bunch of companies are going to make the right decisions for "the little guy" is crazy. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
So 75,000 coal miner jobs are worth more then probably 4 times the amount of jobs in alternate energy industries?
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Can you imagine how broke all those oilmen will be if this country went full solar, wind, tide and biofuel from switchgrass and hemp? How could they pau for their yachts? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
In the meantime the GOP will keep the poor and the uneducated focused on immigrants posing a huge threat to safety and will do something to pander to their Christian base, but it's painfully obvious what the real objective is here.
I just wonder when the bombs will start falling to get the price of oil to go back to $90 a barrel. Keep worrying about those bad hombres !!!! ;) Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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If someone points a gun to your head and demands your money with no return of value in kind, that is not free market. That is human criminality, human corruption, human abuse, human coercion. The government was formed to check that, and to let the market be free. And if the government, either to favor by regulation some business that bribes it in order to overcome competition, or decides because of ideology, or some good intention derived from data which may be good, but is often inadequate or inaccurate, to make blanket regulations--that is a form of coercion directly on the market, not a protection of the market. The market is made up of human trade by businesses of all sizes and people of all stripes. They all, in a free market, depend on each others' well being in order to survive. The loss of any one shrinks the market. And each business has to survey data correctly. It has to determine price and the sustainability of supply. It has to maintain customer satisfaction. If it does not constrain itself to the natural checks and balances of a free market, it will cease to exist. Or it will have to depend on some form of government coercion in the market in order to survive. Criminal prosecution was meant to be the domain of the states and local governments. The "check" against criminal coercion is more relevantly, as you put it, regulated at local levels in touch with the needs of their populace. Different strokes for different folks rather than one size fits all. The problem of one central authority regulating the market of the entire country is it tends to overregulate thus creating the Big Business/Big government complex that we have drifted into. The "Nation of Shopkeepers" that de Tocqueville defined as America has become much less so. The hassle of dealing with growing regulations is more easily handled by bureaucracies than by small businesses. And that makes it more difficult to create a market for the "little guy." There are still a lot of self-motivated people who create smaller, even family, businesses. But there is more of a tendency for people to work for somebody else. Or not to work at all. The irony of illegal immigrant enclaves is that they are left more alone, not as restrictively regulated. So they are able to create a market environment that suits their community level of income and cultural tastes. But keeping up with big government taxation and costly regulation along with growing government debt makes it difficult for "legal" small businesses and sole proprietors to keep up with the constant inflation, or even sustain their endeavors. The right decisions for the little guys, as you put it, would better be made by a freer market. There is always a market for different levels of income if the market is free enough to provide it. What big government policies tend to do is create more little guys who depend on the government safety net to survive. That is not the market's fault. Free it up to make it viable to have functioning little guys. |
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And if we pump more oil here or in Canada, the price of oil will go down. Even more so when Saudi Arabia, et. al, decide to lower their prices in response in order to make it less profitable to pump it here. And yeah, you're right . . . the Christians are the real threat, not immigrants from the Middle East. Keep an eye on those Christians. They're gonna bring this country down. |
US internet privacy law scrapped
More roll backs and typical Republican Ideas less regulation will help create jobs.. why do you think companies went to China or Mexico low cost wages and NO REGULATIONS the lack of of REGULATIONS only lined the pockets of the owners and share holders
not the workers or the environment ... Companies have a History in America.. where the worker and the company had a symbiotic relationship .. and history has also shown us How big business changed that and why they cant be trusted to do whats right they must be forced by government by laws and regulations ... But i get it some think if there were no catch limits (regulation ) Cod would be abundant striped bass would still be around and herring so keep banging the free market or should i say free for all market ... and see whats in store for the future generations when profits are sought above sustainability and stability in the Market The repeal was strongly backed by major providers such as Verizon, AT&T and Comcast, who argued that ISPs were being subject to stricter privacy laws than companies like Google or Facebook. SHOCKING Coal other financial services worker rights rolled back Whos looking out for the Avg American Trump?? think again |
Rolling back worker protection.
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And assuming it was indeed a crime, tell the parents of the 14 year-old girl who got gang raped in her Maryland high school bathroom, that there is no upside to regulating immigration. Nebe, who gets to decide which laws we obey, and which we don't? Why can't I decide not to pay my federal income taxes? |
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It's an interesting quirk of liberalism. Liberals think misogyny is bad, and they think homophobia is bad, but for reasons I have never quite figure out, liberals won't say Islam is bad. Is there a single female or gay person out there, who would rather find themselves in Saudi Arabia than the Vatican? |
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You have energy companies who think the views of the head of our EPA are a joke.
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The lessoning of environmental regs. will hurt the poor more than the middle and upper class. Pres. Trump talked about "carnage" yet his policies will make things much worse for the people he appealed to.
He is slashing projects to help low-income families pay for heating or move to better neighborhoods; cutting nutrition assistance for mothers and help for low-income students to enter college, food support (WIC) for the poor with children, etc. The mortality of the poor, whites w/no more than a college educ. has increased over the last 20 or so years. |
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The correct answer usually doesn't lie at one extreme or the other. Sometimes it does, so it's worth asking and listening. |
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If the Federal government would just stick to the few and defined powers as outlined in the U.S. Constitution, the beast of centralized and unlimited government power would be slain. The states, really, are capable of creating regulatory models of their own and can more relevantly address problems that belong to government rather than to the market. Just doing that would solve most of our economic problems and many of the social ones. The quality of education would improve and its costs would drop dramatically (Federal Government "investment" in education invariably raises its costs). And the teaching of economics, the power of self reliance, rather than some Progressive notion of social justice, as well as the virtue of federated republican (small "r") government over the authoritarian style of an all-powerful central government, would do wonders toward changing the American character from its now identity divided government dependency toward a more American "e pluribus Unum" individuality capable of solving its own problems. |
I started this thread about my concern about the long term impact to the global (yeah it is a global problem) environment by the policies and beliefs of this administration, how we got into a discussion about what class of people are impacted the most is par for the course I guess. Not dissimilar to the striper regulations or lack thereof, for years we fishermen predicted what was coming, but regulations to address the problem were far too late to stem the tide. Rebuilding a striper stock is going to be a lot easier than repairing a global environmental problem.
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I say that with all the certainty that climate change believers have in the long term effects of this administration's policies. Obviously, those of us who voted for the Repubs are too stupid to know what is right and wrong. What science says. And it is obvious that this administration desperately wants to commit massive human genocide, including themselves and their families. Actually, I don't have the slightest idea about what course the environment will take. You, obviously, know very well and certain. It's a lot easier, with my limited mental capacity, to stick to things like economics, government, human nature, freedom and tyranny, the Constitution--things that humans have demonstrated an ability to guide in various directions. |
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Global warming IMHO is real, it's being accelerated by man and to roll back or implement new policies that can only worsen the impact, even if it's only a four year term; is just not taking us in the right direction. The USA has always lead the world in making changes that are taking everyone on this planet in a positive direction, from rules of war, to nuclear agreements and to making change to slow man's impact on global warming. As the saying goes, you can pay me now or pay me later, the bill will come to those several generations down the road; we will have been long gone. |
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