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detbuch 12-01-2019 06:07 PM

Why the Elecotoral College
 
This is a not too long presentation of the importance of the Electoral College as opposed to the popular vote. The first 14 or so minutes is introduction and a brief look at the Constitution, then the rest of the 25 minutes or so on the Electoral College and the importance of state power vs federal power.

It is not wonkish, but a plain language and engaging discussion. Please watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUR9UIscLGU

wdmso 12-02-2019 09:08 AM

And if for a minute ifYou think Republicans wouldn't take issue to winning the popular vote and losing 2 presidential elections. Your a partisan hack.

Wyoming has three electoral votes and a population of 586,107, while California has 55 electoral votes and 39,144,818 residents. Distributing the electoral vote evenly among each state’s residents suggests that individual votes from Wyoming carry 3.6 times more influence, or weight, than those from California

Ya ok thats what the framers had in mind when it was written
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Sea Dangles 12-02-2019 09:32 AM

If you think it needed reform before this last election then maybe it wouldn’t come off as sour grapes. But we both know that is not the case.
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The Dad Fisherman 12-02-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1180767)

Ya ok thats what the framers had in mind when it was written
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Well, yeah, it is.
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scottw 12-02-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1180767)

And if for a minute ifYou think Republicans wouldn't take issue to winning the popular vote and losing 2 presidential elections. Your a partisan hack.


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fake news

detbuch 12-02-2019 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1180767)

Wyoming has three electoral votes and a population of 586,107, while California has 55 electoral votes and 39,144,818 residents. Distributing the electoral vote evenly among each state’s residents suggests that individual votes from Wyoming carry 3.6 times more influence, or weight, than those from California

Not really. The more populous states have more members in the House and so their votes carry more weight in the legislation that Congress passes. The one check that is constitutionally left (since the 17A created election of Senators by popular vote instead of appointment by state legislators) to smaller states from being tyrannized by larger ones is the Electoral College. Otherwise, what is the necessity for the existence of different states. Do you believe that states are necessary?

Jim in CT 12-02-2019 01:14 PM

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Well, yeah, it is.
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it’s precisely, exactly what they had in mind. State’s rights.
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The Dad Fisherman 12-02-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1180792)
it’s precisely, exactly what they had in mind. State’s rights.
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Keeps the big states from eating the little states :hee:
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Jim in CT 12-02-2019 03:27 PM

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Keeps the big states from eating the little states :hee:
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the snowflakes are saying the electoral college was implemented because of racism and slavery. Nothing like revising history to fit your narrative, next they’ll say it was all hitlers idea.
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The Dad Fisherman 12-02-2019 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1180804)
the snowflakes are saying the electoral college was implemented because of racism and slavery. Nothing like revising history to fit your narrative, next they’ll say it was all hitlers idea.
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Of course, voter suppression of slaves was a big concern in the late 1700’s :rolleyes:
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Jim in CT 12-02-2019 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1180818)
Of course, voter suppression of slaves was a big concern in the late 1700’s :rolleyes:
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you can’t talk to these people...
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scottw 12-03-2019 03:02 AM

it's pretty funny that the left and media have now decided anyone that disagrees with them is a trump "cult" member as they run around squawking their daily talking points over and over like little zombies :eek:

PaulS 12-03-2019 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1180847)
it's pretty funny that the left and media have now decided anyone that disagrees with them is a trump "cult" member as they run around squawking their daily talking points over and over like little zombies :eek:

That is dumb

Jim in CT 12-03-2019 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1180860)
That is dumb

no it’s not. i’ve said a hundred times Trump is a morally bankrupt jerk, but i’m called a kool aid drinking Trumplican, because I admit that the economy is doing well and I like the judges he’s appointing.

He’s doing some good things. A lot of people are better off.m today than when he took office. We get to decide next year, if his antics are worth the benefit. That’s how it’s supposed to work.

When you have a very senior level FBI agent who is leading both Hilary’s email investigation and Trumps Russian connections who texts “we’ll stop him” from becoming president, that should worry all of us.
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PaulS 12-03-2019 09:55 AM

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no it’s not. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

It's a joke you idiot. Scott knows why I did it and that is why it didn't bother him

scottw 12-03-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1180883)
It's a joke you idiot. Scott knows why I did it and that is why it didn't bother him

did what?

Jim in CT 12-03-2019 10:08 AM

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did what?

beats me, I’m an idiot.
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PaulS 12-03-2019 10:08 AM

post that is dumb.

Sea Dangles 12-03-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1180890)
post that is dumb.

This is something new?
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PaulS 12-03-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1180942)
This is something new?
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As I said earlier - you are a vile person.

Sea Dangles 12-03-2019 01:55 PM

Big hugs for you 🤷🏽#^&♂️
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scottw 12-03-2019 03:12 PM

waiting for one of them to call it the electrical college :nopain:

detbuch 12-05-2019 12:07 AM

Hey, wdmso, I asked you earlier in this thread if you believe that our separate states are necessary. That is not an idle question. It is critical to the type of government we have. It is an essential element that differentiates whether we are a constitutional republic or a Progressive democracy.

I have asked this question a few times before and never gotten a response. You seem quite willing and unafraid to respond to just about any question or opinion. What is your opinion? Is it necessary for our country to have and be divided by separate states?

Jim in CT 12-05-2019 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1181161)
Hey, wdmso, I asked you earlier in this thread if you believe that our separate states are necessary. That is not an idle question. It is critical to the type of government we have. It is an essential element that differentiates whether we are a constitutional republic or a Progressive democracy.

I have asked this question a few times before and never gotten a response. You seem quite willing and unafraid to respond to just about any question or opinion. What is your opinion? Is it necessary for our country to have and be divided by separate states?

he won’t answer, he can’t. he doesn’t want to say we don’t need states, but if he admits we need states, he justifies the electoral college. it was a perfect question. perfect.
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wdmso 12-05-2019 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1181161)
Hey, wdmso, I asked you earlier in this thread if you believe that our separate states are necessary. That is not an idle question. It is critical to the type of government we have. It is an essential element that differentiates whether we are a constitutional republic or a Progressive democracy.

I have asked this question a few times before and never gotten a response. You seem quite willing and unafraid to respond to just about any question or opinion. What is your opinion? Is it necessary for our country to have and be divided by separate states?

Haveing states? Who said anything about. Not having states ? Or if they are nessary?
Define your question nessary for What?

Or are you suggesting with out the college states will no longer exist?

Electoral College votes gives citizens in less populated states (e.g. Wyoming) as much as four times the voting power as those in more populous states (e.g. California) i cant help if you dont see this as an issue..

Or that any candidate need not go to any other state other than swing state and appeal to this limited audience
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Jim in CT 12-05-2019 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1181172)
Haveing states? Who said anything about. Not having states ? Or if they are nessary?
Define your question nessary for What?

Or are you suggesting with out the college states will no longer exist?

Electoral College votes gives citizens in less populated states (e.g. Wyoming) as much as four times the voting power as those in more populous states (e.g. California) i cant help if you dont see this as an issue..

Or that any candidate need not go to any other state other than swing state and appeal to this limited audience
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if it wasn’t for the electoral
college, no candidate would
ever go to the midwest. Obviously i wouldn’t like the results if the electoral college were giving wins to the democrats. but it was a brilliant and necessary move by the founding fathers. And if enough people agree with you, there is a mechanism to change it.
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Jim in CT 12-05-2019 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1181172)

Or that any candidate need not go to any other state other than swing state and appeal to this limited audience
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if only someone had bothered to tell Hilary that, maybe she wouldn’t have spent all her time getting hugged in CA and NY, and maybe she would have won.
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wdmso 12-05-2019 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1181176)
if only someone had bothered to tell Hilary that, maybe she wouldn’t have spent all her time getting hugged in CA and NY, and maybe she would have won.
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I agree ,, but whats the fix? not looking to abolish anything clearly things need a tune up
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scottw 12-05-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1181177)
I agree ,, but whats the fix? not looking to abolish anything clearly things need a tune up
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Not really
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Sea Dangles 12-05-2019 10:56 AM

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I agree ,, but whats the fix? not looking to abolish anything clearly things need a tune up
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Only half the country thinks it is broken.
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