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Jim in CT 10-21-2021 06:27 PM

NIH explicitly admits today it funded gain of function research at Wuhan
 
Which Faucci flatly denied to congress.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.ya...125103852.html

spence 10-21-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1216116)
Which Faucci flatly denied to congress.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.ya...125103852.html

I don't see how you can derive that conclusion from this document.

Jim in CT 10-21-2021 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1216117)
I don't see how you can derive that conclusion from this document.

the NIH concludes it. maybe they know a
little more than. you do.
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spence 10-21-2021 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1216119)
the NIH concludes it. maybe they know a
little more than. you do.
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That's not what they concluded. The only thing from the NIH letter is that the EcoHealth findings should have been reported sooner and weren't, not that their research violated the contract.

Can you read?

Jim in CT 10-21-2021 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1216121)
That's not what they concluded. The only thing from the NIH letter is that the EcoHealth findings should have been reported sooner and weren't, not that their research violated the contract.

Can you read?

no i can’t. the democrats will take the entire house in 2024, because everyone will agree with you, that they’ve never made a mistake.
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Pete F. 10-21-2021 09:05 PM

It must be true, it’s in the Federalist
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detbuch 10-21-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1216126)
It must be true, it’s in the Federalist
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It must be true for you if it's in the Guardian or The Atlantic.

wdmso 10-22-2021 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1216117)
I don't see how you can derive that conclusion from this document.

Because he was told to be outraged it’s that simple . Critical thinking is banned in the GOP it may be linked to CRT so to avoid confusing the base it’s not allowed
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wdmso 10-22-2021 09:24 AM

the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work it was doing. So how would anyone know ! if they never told anyone?
And Republicans are suggesting Faucci lied amazing stretch of the truth

Yet 9 Republicans voted to hold Trump aide Bannon in contempt of Congress out of 214 Republicans how sad the law and order party once again chooses party over country

But you post this nonsense
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Jim in CT 10-22-2021 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1216161)
the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work it was doing. So how would anyone know ! if they never told anyone?
And Republicans are suggesting Faucci lied amazing stretch of the truth

Yet 9 Republicans voted to hold Trump aide Bannon in contempt of Congress out of 214 Republicans how sad the law and order party once again chooses party over country

But you post this nonsense
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spence denied that what they did, was gain of function of research. you’re saying it was gain of function research, but that we had no way of knowing because someone in the chain didn’t fully disclose.

Wayne, Faucci has changed his tune on this disease 100 times. he hasn’t gotten a single thing right. what would it take, for you to decide he’s lost some
credibility.

The NIH funded ( perhaps without their knowledge, but that’s if you take their word for that) gain of function research at Wuhan. We now know that. That’s not nonsense, that’s now factual.
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scottw 10-22-2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1216163)

spence denied.....

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no way!

spence 10-22-2021 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1216161)
the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work it was doing. So how would anyone know ! if they never told anyone?

That's not true, to get the grant money EcoHealth had to submit a proposal for the research they intended to do. Based on the NIH review it was determined it wasn't necessary for the stricter P3CO protocols as they weren't going to do anything to make the viruses more infectious to humans. What they didn't do was report their findings on time per the requirements of the contract.

The problem here is people are referring to Gain of Function like some giant catch all that includes just about any research. It's like how CRT is generic for any discussion about race.

Jim in CT 10-22-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1216173)
That's not true, to get the grant money EcoHealth had to submit a proposal for the research they intended to do. Based on the NIH review it was determined it wasn't necessary for the stricter P3CO protocols as they weren't going to do anything to make the viruses more infectious to humans. What they didn't do was report their findings on time per the requirements of the contract.

The problem here is people are referring to Gain of Function like some giant catch all that includes just about any research. It's like how CRT is generic for any discussion about race.

i don’t know exactly what gain of function is, and it’s likely you don’t either. what i do know, is that Faucci flatly denied providing any funding for it. but we did.

obviously, you’re going to say that what we funded, wasn’t gain of function. others will
say it was. i don’t know for sure. i do know that at this point Faucci has flip flopped and been so wrong so often, that he has zero credibility with me. the guy loves seeing himself in tv, loves the attention.

I read that combining viruses to see if you can make them
stronger, falls under the umbrella of gain of function. according to the NIH, that’s what they funded in Wuhan.

don’t worry snowflake, , like every other crisis manufactured by the Trumplicans, there’s nothing to see here. As you said, the polls show. idea is doing well. Right?

you’re an expert on finance and virology. that’s very impressive. you know more than rand paul. i don’t think you’ve ever asked a question here, because you know it all. it’s just so impressive.
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wdmso 10-22-2021 11:51 AM

Faucci was a darling ofTrumps maga supporters until he did the unthinkable he spoke the Truth and then stayed on under Biden and now he is the new Conservatives lighting rod … while they willfully ignore anything to do with Herr Tump and his attempted overthrow of the US Government…. 😂
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scottw 10-22-2021 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1216173)
The problem here is people are referring to Gain of Function like some giant catch all that includes just about any research. It's like how CRT is generic for any discussion about race.

and the wuhan virus probably didn't come from the wuhan lab coincidentally experimenting with the wuhan virus.....

it's like how leftist call everything hate and racism now....

scottw 10-22-2021 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1216179)

Faucci

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good grief,,,did you mean Gucci?

Jim in CT 10-22-2021 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1216179)
Faucci was a darling ofTrumps maga supporters until he did the unthinkable he spoke the Truth and then stayed on under Biden and now he is the new Conservatives lighting rod … while they willfully ignore anything to do with Herr Tump and his attempted overthrow of the US Government…. 😂
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Faucci fell out of favor when Trump was still POTUS, and all the flip-flopping was apparent. Sorry.

scottw 10-22-2021 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1216183)

Faucci fell out of favor .

you too huh?...

spence 10-22-2021 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1216174)
i don’t know exactly what gain of function is, and it’s likely you don’t either. what i do know, is that Faucci flatly denied providing any funding for it. but we did.

The test EcoHealth were running were not expected to increase the potentcy of a virus, it was just to study molecular interactions. Google it, many documents online.

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obviously, you’re going to say that what we funded, wasn’t gain of function. others will
I think I'd rather trust the scientists at the NIH, NIAID etc... over Tucker Carlson and Rand Paul.

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say it was. i don’t know for sure. i do know that at this point Faucci has flip flopped and been so wrong so often, that he has zero credibility with me. the guy loves seeing himself in tv, loves the attention.
What has he flipped on? Mask wearing? Give me a break.

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I read that combining viruses to see if you can make them
stronger, falls under the umbrella of gain of function. according to the NIH, that’s what they funded in Wuhan.
That's not what they were doing.

scottw 10-22-2021 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1216188)
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That's not what they were doing.

clearly...because no crazy virus has been unleashed on the world recently

Jim in CT 10-22-2021 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1216189)
clearly...because no crazy virus has been unleashed on the world recently

not from Wuhan at least.
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scottw 10-22-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1216192)
not from Wuhan at least.
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Most remarkable coincidence and biggest conspiracy theory in human history
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Jim in CT 10-22-2021 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1216188)
The test EcoHealth were running were not expected to increase the potentcy of a virus, it was just to study molecular interactions. Google it, many documents online.


I think I'd rather trust the scientists at the NIH, NIAID etc... over Tucker Carlson and Rand Paul.


What has he flipped on? Mask wearing? Give me a break.


That's not what they were doing.

"The test EcoHealth were running were not expected to increase the potentcy of a virus, it was just to study molecular interactions. Google it, many documents online"

Yet they did increase the potency of the virus, which is why many other scientists have called what we funded at Wuhan, the epitome of gain-of-function research. I don't know what's generally accepted to be gain-of-function, neither do you. But you'll blindly buy into every scientist whose opinion supports liberalism, and refuse to listen to any scientist whose opinion challenges liberalism. You never, ever do anything else. Not once, not ever. It's kind of boring.


Keep nodding like dutiful livestock at everything that comes from the mouth of the guy who not that long ago said masks would be an hysterical over-reaction, and that we just needed to give them two weeks to bend the curve. How many times does he have to flip-flop or just be wrong, before you'd stop listening to him?

The Dad Fisherman 10-22-2021 06:18 PM

Queue the “The science is an ever changing process” comeback
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spence 10-22-2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1216195)
Most remarkable coincidence and biggest conspiracy theory in human history
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Yeah, it's such coincidence that a corona virus would come from the hotbed of global coronavirus in wild animals. Why in the hell would they even be studying it there? Soros?

scottw 10-22-2021 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1216212)
Queue the “The science is an ever changing process” comeback
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Ummmm ….no.. the science is settled…unless it becomes inconvenient…then we just change some words or their meanings
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scottw 10-22-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1216215)
Yeah, it's such coincidence that a corona virus would come from the hotbed of global coronavirus in wild animals. Why in the hell would they even be studying it there? Soros?

So you are sticking with the conspiracy theory that it didn’t come from the lab?
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wdmso 10-23-2021 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1216195)
Most remarkable coincidence and biggest conspiracy theory in human history
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Like Trump won the election
Cyber ninjas were going to find fraud
Rudy’s got Hunters laptop
Send in the kraken
Oh don’t forget hunters art sales
Dems are the real authoritarians
Biden weaponized the DOJ to call Parents Domestic Terrorist
Covid deaths are fake
And the world is against Republicans and God and at war with Christmas
Fauci Lied People Died
The media is all lies all the time a clear enemy of the people

Did I miss any of the right conspiracies or should I call them rational stories not being told , hidden from Americans from the deep state actors !
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Jim in CT 10-23-2021 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1216225)
Like Trump won the election
Cyber ninjas were going to find fraud
Rudy’s got Hunters laptop
Send in the kraken
Oh don’t forget hunters art sales
Dems are the real authoritarians
Biden weaponized the DOJ to call Parents Domestic Terrorist
Covid deaths are fake
And the world is against Republicans and God and at war with Christmas
Fauci Lied People Died
The media is all lies all the time a clear enemy of the people

Did I miss any of the right conspiracies or should I call them rational stories not being told , hidden from Americans from the deep state actors !
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biden did weaponize the DOJ to call parents domestic terrorists. the national association of school
boards apologized last night for calling them domestic terrorists, said specifically there was no justification for that.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nat...arent-protests

do you deny the media, overall, is way left leaning? do they ask biden tough questions?

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Jim in CT 10-23-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1216188)
The test EcoHealth were running were not expected to increase the potentcy of a virus, it was just to study molecular interactions. Google it, many documents online.


I think I'd rather trust the scientists at the NIH, NIAID etc... over Tucker Carlson and Rand Paul.


What has he flipped on? Mask wearing? Give me a break.


That's not what they were doing.

you’re denying that faucci has flipped flopped on this.

he specifically said not to wear masks. are you denying that? you’re saying faucci never suggested not to wear masks? spence, he has spewed every conceivable opinion at some point.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...radictions.amp

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