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zimmy 11-17-2017 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBo (Post 1131942)
My we sure are sensitive in here. Lighten up.
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Don't try to wash yourself of it by making it a problem of mine. Thanks :kewl:

PaulS 11-17-2017 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1131940)
Classy.

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I almost was going to post something along the same lines.

PaulS 11-17-2017 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1131938)
You talking about Bill? Are you serious? Juanita Broderick has long claimed he raped her. And he paid off Paula Jones with a fat settlement. But let's ignore that.

I'm talking about the person you mentioned directly above in the post - Kennedy.

Jim in CT 11-17-2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1131945)
NM

"You mentioned 2 Dem. presidents in your 1st post"

Ted Kennedy killed somebody and used his money to avoid responsibility, and grew in popularity among the left.

Bill Clinton had an affair in the Oval Office, looked the public in the eye, and lied about it. His wife went on national TV and slut-shamed his victims. The 2 of them, as of last week, were enormously popular with liberals.

Trump is despised by many, many influential republicans. That's the difference between my side and your side. It is a glaring difference. I am proud of that difference.

Jim in CT 11-17-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1131948)
I'm talking about the person you mentioned directly above in the post - Kennedy.

Ok, let's talk about Kennedy (Ted). Mary Joe agreed to let him drive off a bridge, leave her, go back to a party, and lawyer up?

Talking about Ted Kennedy, not JFK.

Paul, there are perverts on both sides. I'm not saying all Republicans are faithful to their wives. What I'm saying, is that your side is far more tolerant, far more willing to look the other way, when high-profile politicians/entertainers act this way. Yet you claim that my side is waging war on women. It's absolute nonsense.

scottw 11-17-2017 11:25 AM

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BIDEN-FRANKENSTEIN 2020

HEY JOE...THAT'S NOT YOUR WIFE....

BigBo 11-17-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1131946)
Don't try to wash yourself of it by making it a problem of mine. Thanks :kewl:

:rotf3::rotf3::rotf3::bs:

Jim in CT 11-17-2017 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1131866)
Well why mention 2 Democrats if you're not going to mention any Republicans?
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I mentioned Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton, because they are two politicians who (1) committed disgusting acts against women, and (2) paid absolutely zero political price within their own party.

You can put Trump in that category, and that would have some validity to it. But the difference is, Trump isn't regarded as a hero by many Republicans. He's a scumbag who was lucky enough to run against somebody as horrible as he is. The Kennedys and the Clintons are worshipped by most of the left. Megyn Kelly was huge on Foxnews, and she was merciless to Trump. Who on the left, who is that popular, was as tough to Ted Kennedy, or Bill Clinton, or Hilary Clinton?

Got Stripers 11-17-2017 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1131906)
Spence, remind me, which political party is accusing the GOP of waging a phony war on women? What's good for the goose...

Democrats have been having their cake and eating it too, for 25 years. If Trump's election showed us anything, it's that the people who live between the coasts, are tired of being told that everything they believe, is based on some form of hate. That kind of idiotic and tiresome thinking is finally enraging those on the receiving end.

If it's "political" to bring up Franken's actions, why isn't it "political" to discuss what Moore did? Please explain?

Of course it’s political, why else would Trump blast Franken and say nothing about Moore. From what I’ve read Franken just stepped a bit over the line, while Moore seems to be almost a border line sex offender; but he is from the south where maybe he feels if my pappy could why not me.
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spence 11-17-2017 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1131953)
BIDEN-FRANKENSTEIN 2020

HEY JOE...THAT'S NOT YOUR WIFE....

You're sick and making the problem worse.
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scottw 11-17-2017 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1131969)
You're sick and making the problem worse.
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if that was a guy Biden probably wouldn't be making love to his hair

wdmso 11-17-2017 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1131905)
Oh, so it's only an issue if the victims are still outraged by it? That makes all kinds of sense.

For the sake of argument, let's say Moore and Franken harassed women in the same exact way. Let's also assume that Franken's victim forgives him, Moore's victim does not. You are saying, in this case, Franken is fit to serve in the Senate but Moore is not? Even though they did the same exact thing?

No not at all. But that's nothat happen they are not the same thing

14 years old 8 women same story can you say child molester

Jim in CT 11-17-2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1131971)
14 years old 8 women same story can you say child molester
To consider theses the same thing is not reality

And neither one of them has been convicted of anything. I’m not sure we should take action against either one. Remember the duke lacrosse case? I do.
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JohnR 11-17-2017 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBo (Post 1131941)
John, my post about Barry was in jest.
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I know ; ) - Some don't do it in jest - I don't like some of the things she has said in the past

scottw 11-18-2017 03:10 AM

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OOPS!

POLITICS 11/17/2017

Women On Clinton And Sanders Campaigns Allege Sexual Harassment

Lilian Adams and Zoey Jordan Salsbury worked on opposite sides of the Democratic presidential primary. But they had similar problems.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b045cf43705417

geez.....you'd think based on the narrative, the Trump campaign would be riddled with sexual harassment charges...but it's the highly evolved dems????...seems like it's practically part of the culture on the left...so much so that they are happy to be photographed :hihi:


HEY JOE...THAT'S NOT YOUR WIFE EITHER.....gitchy...gitchty...gooo

wdmso 11-18-2017 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1131972)
And neither one of them has been convicted of anything. I’m not sure we should take action against either one. Remember the duke lacrosse case? I do.
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convicted of anything.......

thats not your standard when it was Obama or Hilliary.. weinstein or spacey

but now with Moore a likely pedophile with 8 accusers you use the hasn't been convicted of anything argument .. curious

Got Stripers 11-18-2017 07:52 AM

To learn that 15 million of our taxpayer dollars went to pay off sexual harassment claims is so wrong, this aholes should be paying off those claims with their own money.

scottw 11-18-2017 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1131982)

hasn't been convicted of anything argument .. curious

it's not an argument...it's actually a "fact"...you like those

Moore should go to jail...hopefully he will be convicted...in the case of Franken...the old adage applies..."a picture is worth a thousand words"

zimmy 11-18-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1131989)
it's not an argument...it's actually a "fact"...you like those

Moore should go to jail...hopefully he will be convicted...in the case of Franken...the old adage applies..."a picture is worth a thousand words"

In a way you are right. Picture shows bad taste, but he isn't touching her. Also provides a witness (photographer). It would exonerate him in that particular instance.
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scottw 11-18-2017 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1131990)

but he isn't touching her.

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he's violating her personal space

zimmy 11-18-2017 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1131992)
he's violating her personal space

It's not assault is the point. Not a crime. Improper, offensive, yes. Sticking his tongue down her throat may qualify, but probably tough to prosecute because she agreed to rehearse a kissing scene and he kissed her. Accusations against Moore, Spacey, H.W.Bush, the acts Trump bragged about in the video, etc. are crimes of physical sexual assault. The acts in the picture of Franken are not. Certainly tasteless.
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wdmso 11-18-2017 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1131996)
It's not assault is the point. Not a crime. Improper, offensive, yes. Sticking his tongue down her throat may qualify, but probably tough to prosecute because she agreed to rehearse a kissing scene and he kissed her. Accusations against Moore, Spacey, H.W.Bush, the acts Trump bragged about in the video, etc. are crimes of physical sexual assault. The acts in the picture of Franken are not. Certainly tasteless.
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I have said the same thing ... they dont care he never touched her or that theres a guy in a chair sleeping next to her (they were waiting to fly some place or she had body armor on and could see her breasts or that she accepted his apology or that he wasn't in a position of power
or like Moore or Trump or weinstein or in office


I have noticed the absent of any criticism involving Trump seeing he has said nothing about Moore .. just Whataboutism comments about franken

wdmso 11-18-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1131989)
it's not an argument...it's actually a "fact"...you like those

Moore should go to jail...hopefully he will be convicted...in the case of Franken...the old adage applies..."a picture is worth a thousand words"


this isn't a trial in court this isn't false flag operation

its 9 American women under the age of 17 .... Did you feel the same way about bill Cosby.. it's not an argument...it's actually a "fact"...

or just funny?

Jim in CT 11-18-2017 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1131982)
convicted of anything.......

thats not your standard when it was Obama or Hilliary.. weinstein or spacey

but now with Moore a likely pedophile with 8 accusers you use the hasn't been convicted of anything argument .. curious

Jesus God almighty...

With Moore and Franken, it's a he said/she said situation. Not so when you are judging people for what they actually say and do. Am I going too fast for you?

Jim in CT 11-18-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1131999)
I have said the same thing ... they dont care he never touched her or that theres a guy in a chair sleeping next to her (they were waiting to fly some place or she had body armor on and could see her breasts or that she accepted his apology or that he wasn't in a position of power
or like Moore or Trump or weinstein or in office


I have noticed the absent of any criticism involving Trump seeing he has said nothing about Moore .. just Whataboutism comments about franken

The Franken photo is no evidence of assault or a crime. It's rock solid evidence that he's a juvenile horse's ass. Not fit for the US Senate. He's a great candidate if they re-make the "Porky's" movies. US Senate? Not so much. Moore is also unfit I think.

scottw 11-18-2017 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1131996)

Sticking his tongue down her throat may qualify, but probably tough to prosecute

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brilliant!

scottw 11-18-2017 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1132001)
this isn't a trial in court this isn't false flag operation

its 9 American women under the age of 17 .... Did you feel the same way about bill Cosby.. it's not an argument...it's actually a "fact"...

or just funny?

ummm...what part of "Moore should go to jail" confused you?

zimmy 11-18-2017 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1132025)
brilliant!

Nice selective quote. No surprise....
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scottw 11-18-2017 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zimmy (Post 1132029)
Nice selective quote. No surprise....

the acts Trump bragged about in the video, etc. are crimes of physical sexual assault. The acts in the picture of Franken are not.

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Franken was standing over an "actual" woman being photographed as he was about to giver her a grab while she was sleeping...

Trump's victim in your example is imaginary, unless he grabbed Billy Bush:jester:....Franken's victim is right there in the photo...

spence 11-19-2017 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1132030)
Franken was standing over an "actual" woman being photographed as he was about to giver her a grab while she was sleeping...

Trump's victim in your example is imaginary, unless he grabbed Billy Bush:jester:....Franken's victim is right there in the photo...

Your dishonesty is alarming.
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