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wdmso 01-12-2020 09:04 AM

British Defence Secretary
 
Ben Wallace: UK 'must be prepared to fight wars without US'

I worry if the United States withdraws from its leadership around the world," Mr Wallace said "That would be bad for the world and bad for us. We plan for the worst and hope for the best."


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51081861

Jim in CT 01-12-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1183747)
Ben Wallace: UK 'must be prepared to fight wars without US'

I worry if the United States withdraws from its leadership around the world," Mr Wallace said "That would be bad for the world and bad for us. We plan for the worst and hope for the best."


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51081861

so liberals attacked bush for getting us into a long war of questionable
value.

When trump decides to avoid endless wars of questionable
value, you attack him for that?

WDMSO, which is it? Is it our responsibility to be the worlds policeman, or isn’t it?

Republicans are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

Try this...develop a principle, and apply that principle equally, regardless of the political party of the sitting president.

it would be bad if we withdrew from the world. Fortunately, we aren’t doing that. I saw a lot of US firefighters arriving in Australia, and they got a standing ovation at the airport. We’re not withdrawing from
the world.
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wdmso 01-12-2020 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183750)
so liberals attacked bush for getting us into a long war of questionable
value.

When trump decides to avoid endless wars of questionable
value, you attack him for that?

WDMSO, which is it? Is it our responsibility to be the worlds policeman, or isn’t it?

Republicans are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

Try this...develop a principle, and apply that principle equally, regardless of the political party of the sitting president.

it would be bad if we withdrew from the world. Fortunately, we aren’t doing that. I saw a lot of US firefighters arriving in Australia, and they got a standing ovation at the airport. We’re not withdrawing from
the world.
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Your missing his point

He is saying the US under Trump is no longer a reliable allied

Nothing you said has anything to do with what he's talking about.

Please let me know when trumps got us out of endless wars

Saw the firefighters airport and whole 20 of them clearly not alot and nothing to do with American leadership.
Whats Trump doing about PR ?
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Jim in CT 01-12-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1183757)
Your missing his point

He is saying the US under Trump is no longer a reliable allied

Nothing you said has anything to with it
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what have we done to abandon Great Britain?

The fact that the US is sending firefighters to Australia, to risk their lives to serve the people on the opposite side of the world, isn't proof that we haven't abandoned the world?

Nothing will please you, no matter what the US does to help other countries. You hear a criticism of Trump, you suck it up like a Hoover deluxe and cling to it regardless of the facts.

scottw 01-12-2020 12:26 PM

what war is the UK fighting anyway?

Jim in CT 01-12-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1183764)
what war is the UK fighting anyway?

the war to keep the prince within the royal family.

Sea Dangles 01-12-2020 12:55 PM

Once again our president is in a no win scenario with PR. He is likely working tirelessly to help these folks get their aid. The problem with just sending $ to PR is that it will be plundered by the corrupt politicians,which happened last time he trusted their hierarchy. Only a fool would do that again.
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wdmso 01-12-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183758)
what have we done to abandon Great Britain?

Ask them this isn't just some guy off the street making this statement

The fact that the US is sending firefighters to Australia, to risk their lives to serve the people on the opposite side of the world, isn't proof that we haven't abandoned the world?

The US government isn't sending firefighters their all volunteers
All 150 of them again has nothing to do with the topic

Nothing will please you, no matter what the US does to help other countries. You hear a criticism of Trump, you suck it up like a Hoover deluxe and cling to it regardless of the facts.

The only one clinging to Trumps inmangary helping of other countries is you

Jim in CT 01-12-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1183769)
The only one clinging to Trumps inmangary helping of other countries is you

tell that to the Israelis.

Honest to god, you literally cannot accept anything that paints the guy in a favorable light.
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wdmso 01-12-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1183767)
Once again our president is in a no win scenario with PR. He is likely working tirelessly to help these folks get their aid. The problem with just sending $ to PR is that it will be plundered by the corrupt politicians,which happened last time he trusted their hierarchy. Only a fool would do that again.
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Lol working tirelessly to help these people

But I get it f theses americans for the sins of others:btu:

Jim in CT 01-12-2020 03:52 PM

if we have abandoned the world, why are the Hong Kong protesters waving the american flag?
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wdmso 01-12-2020 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183773)
if we have abandoned the world, why are the Hong Kong protesters waving the american flag?
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For the same reason their waving British flags

wdmso 01-12-2020 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183770)
tell that to the Israelis.

Honest to god, you literally cannot accept anything that paints the guy in a favorable light.
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Americans have always helped Iseral Trumps the only one blowing them but :faga:

JohnR 01-12-2020 05:29 PM

Wait.

"America shouldn't be world's police"

"America's military is too big and needs to be halved"

"Military Industrial Complex"

How am I doing?

8 years of protesting America was evil and begging NATO to pay more, followed by no protesting because 8 years of Nobel Peace Prize with light begging of NATO pay more while hollowing out our forces , followed by 3 years of Pu$$y Hats wereallgonnadie if we don't attack Turkey and the save the Kurds without pizzing off Iran because Orange Man Bad.

For the record I am for a better diplomatic corps, not retreating to our shores. Neither side can manage to get past talking points.

Sea Dangles 01-12-2020 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1183771)
Lol working tirelessly to help these people

But I get it f theses americans for the sins of others:btu:

I think you understand what I mean. The aid will get there to help the victims this time instead of our American politicians. This is not the all or nothing scenario that you portray here. The real story is the 1 death that resulted from this potential catastrophe. Thank Trump for that.👌
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Jim in CT 01-12-2020 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1183774)
For the same reason their waving British flags

which is what?
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wdmso 01-13-2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1183781)
which is what?
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If i need to tell you, you need to expand your information network.

Its not cryptic
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wdmso 01-13-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1183780)
I think you understand what I mean. The aid will get there to help the victims this time instead of our American politicians. This is not the all or nothing scenario that you portray here. The real story is the 1 death that resulted from this potential catastrophe. Thank Trump for that.👌
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Thats funny trump will risk war due to the Death of 1 American

But seeing only 1 person died in the Earthquakes. No help for PR. Such logic

PR didnt kiss Trumps ass after the hurricane so now he and his pals froze 18mil in aid and he did sign a disaster declaration for this earthquake, watching to see his response to the tornadoes, seeing 12 people killed, deaths are the new metrics on disasters
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Sea Dangles 01-13-2020 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1183803)
Thats funny trump will risk war due to the Death of 1 American

But seeing only 1 person died in the Earthquakes. No help for PR. Such logic

PR didnt kiss Trumps ass after the hurricane so now he and his pals froze 18mil in aid and he did sign a disaster declaration for this earthquake, watching to see his response to the tornadoes, seeing 12 people killed, deaths are the new metrics on disasters
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Wayne, your hubris is showing. Trump is not risking war, nor was the targeting of this monster due to the death of 1 American. But you know that and it upsets you for some reason.
Additionally,my fishing partner has 5 homes in PR. One of which was damaged. He went down last week...to go fishing.
You should really educate yourself about some of these topics before spouting your foolishness. Get well soon.👌
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wdmso 01-13-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1183805)
Wayne, your hubris is showing. Trump is not risking war, nor was the targeting of this monster due to the death of 1 American. But you know that and it upsets you for some reason.
Additionally,my fishing partner has 5 homes in PR. One of which was damaged. He went down last week...to go fishing.
You should really educate yourself about some of these topics before spouting your foolishness. Get well soon.👌
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Some parts of the island are more affected than others. No kidding but its all is good. Cuz you well off Friend only has damage on 1-5 houses.

Thats some educational view ... thanks
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Sea Dangles 01-13-2020 01:01 PM

Haha,not well off...just a smart investor. For a barber. 💈
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Jim in CT 01-14-2020 07:08 AM

the british prime
minister, who is the boss of the defense secretary, is happy to replace Obamas iran deal with trumps.

so much for them feeling like we abandoned them.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bor...ran-trump-deal
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