Bingo!

I know I was raised incorrectly, but a common phrase in my house growing up was "Deal with it". Kids (and society as a whole) are being groomed into a thinking process of "if you don't like it, keep bitching until it's removed" instead of "if you don't like it, deal with it. The world isn't going to be catered to your every whim."

I think you guys might be reading some of the comments a little wrong. I don't think most of us who think swearing in public is offensive wouldn't necessarily vote on a law making it a crime. We're saying that there should be some deterrent to these #^&#^&#^&#^&wads using profanities loudly in public so everyone can hear how cool they think they are. If I was walking down the street with your mother on our way to a romantic dinner, I'd be offended if some #^&#^&#^&#^&stain started yelling profanities at his idiot friend across the street.

And JD, if you can ever find a woman who will let you impregnate her, I bet your view on what's acceptable in front of children will change.:)

Your combining two different things. Not once have I said swearing in front of children is acceptable. It's not. Hell, I typically don't swear in front of women. What I'm saying is that just because it's unacceptable, doesn't mean that Big Brother should be regulating it.

Legally acceptable and socially acceptable are two completely different things - Big Brother should be involved in the former and not at all in the latter.

It's also illegal to spit on the sidewalk


carry on

Sodomy is on the books as illegal in Rhode Island....
no comment that that's why "RI"Jimmy is moving to Texas....

"is moving" is one day away from "has moved"

and that law was something the URI girls were not to worried about back in my heyday.....:devil2:

I see slavery as comparable to this (in theory, not in magnitude). The laws said that blacks were not equal. Collectively, we evolved to a different (better) position, and thanks to our constitution, we changed (improved) those laws.

Things like this should be handled locally. If the citizens of this town decide this is best for their kids, let 'em vote on it. Democracy in action.

I would be curious to see if there's a free speech argument to be made. I have a right to free speech, but that doesn't mean I can go to the kindergarten bus stop and hang pornographjy on the telephone pole, right? I assume that's correct? if I don't want my kid exposed to porn, maybe I don't want him exposed to obscenity.

Anyway, if it's a violation of free speech, the ACLU will be all over it. If obscenity does not qualify as protected free speech, then the town has every right to regulate it.

I'm glad my town had no such law when I was in my late teens and I was an idiot...

Don't have a debate on Yom Kippur
Move Bunker Hill Day to not fall on Father's Day
Don't name your team RedMen

I just drove by a big sign banning loud motorcycles... town ordnance... I guess that infringes on my right to be a loud #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&....

Really? they had strap-ons back then? good for you....

:D True story Rav. When the Dems controlled the county they had a big
blow out picnic for the seniors every summer at the county park.
As many hot dogs, beerand soda you could consume.
Then if you were below a certain incomeyou could get a 8 lb bar of cheese every month.

My Mother in law would always vote for the Dems because she loved to
party and got the free cheese. No lie, she was always afraid that Soc Sec
would give her a raise which would disqualify her for her the cheese. :hihi:
Every day for years she would eat her grilled cheese sandwich for lunch
and she couldn't be disturbed. :doh:
She passed away from hardening of the arteries, no doubt caused by the
Dems hot dogs and free cheese. :grins:

Who determines what are "offensive words"?

Is "God Damned" offensive?

Is "Nazi" or Communist" offensive.

Is calling someone "liberal" or "conservative" offensive.

Who determines all this?

Bang your thumb with a hammer and say "Oh that F'in hurt" gets you a ticket.

Why is one term used to describe sex a capital sin but 10 other words to describe the same act are OK?


This law and others like it are just one more nail in the coffin of Freedom.

Quick question, is there actually a list of words that can't be said? Like which ones are ok and which ones are not?

Douchebag is now on every TV show and radio show, not something I would say around kids or loud in public. Did the town provide a list of words?

No. Enforcement is "at the discretion of police officers."

This "law" is so asinine, an editorial about it is the showcased article on the front page of CNN.
Ban swearing? No way - CNN.com

Yes, it's gotten to the point where the Govt has taken over the family roll to
the enth degree by now teaching the words people should or shouldn't say.

The real nail in the coffin of freedom is in this day and age of ability to gather information at the rate we can people pissing and moaning AFTER THE FACT when laws are passed.

This vote wasn't a secret, it was on the agenda.

The only people to blame, in the case of being against this law, are the people of the town for being lazy.

:uhuh:

Meanwhile, in Middleboro guy gets fined for planting tulips.

Tempest over tulips: Middleboro business owner under fire over planting of flowers - Quincy, MA - The Patriot Ledger

"The tulips violate landscape regulations."
No Govt. micro managed regulations here, move on. :rolleyes:

Owning any property in Middleboro is like being part of a town-wide Homeowners Association.

Middleboro has become the laughing stock of the whole world!

ANYONE have the majors email address?

Can you make a citizens arrest if you hear someone swearing?

Just to give it some context... it sounds like this guy should have done some more careful planning all around before spending as much as he did.... it is not always better to seek forgivness than ask permission....



"Building Commissioner Robert J. Whalen cited the business because a building is too close to the property line, the parking lot is too close to Auburn Street, the tulips violate landscape regulations and he lacked a permit to do work near a wetland.
Whalen declined to comment on the alleged violations.

High said he is not planning to move the building and said there was a mix-up with the Conservation Commission on the wetland permit.

He said he has 1,400 more tulip bulbs on order and fears he might be stuck planting them elsewhere because zoning requires “natural vegetation.”
On zoning enforcement, he said, “there are different standards for everyone in the immediate area. Yet I’m being found in violation when all I’m doing is improvement,” High said.

All of which just re-enforces that this is just an over-bearing government, like justplugit said.

Because we have building requirements regarding property lines, wetlands and native vegetation (likely b/c he was near a wetland)...?

right.
build whatever you want, whereever you want... it's in the constitution! personally, I like that there are regulations that says my neighbor can't knock his house down and build a giant house within 2 inches of his property line, while filling a wetland just because he wants to, chose to ignore or was ignorant of the regulations.


Seriously, mark it down, I agree with JimCT.... this is local ordanaces... don't like it? Move, or get a petition to change it. run for government.

For starters, trying to rate this to Constitutionality is completely invalid, just as FB's attempt at relating the restrictions of minors buying pornos.

A couple things... correct me if I'm reading the article wrong, but it appears that the buildings were all there when he bought the property. Also, he did "$1 million in hazardous waste cleanup", beautified a wasteland, is composting municipal yard waste.

Note that Ron High lives in Duxbury, as opposed to Middleboro. Just because he's been cited for violations doesn't mean the citations were appropriately applied. The end of the article demonstrates that all of this was probably triggered by a NIMBY mentality and someone with pull made some calls.

Don't get me wrong, some regulations are certainly needed for safety and environmental protection. But this whole situation stinks of "our foot is in the door, now let's see how much we can screw him." I think this is emphasized by:

Tulips are stupid, I'm going to sue him for planting a stupid plant.

I don't know what he built and what he redid, but typically a 50% or more improvement triggers all the new construction codes... if it were me, and I was laying out a Mil, I'd be damn sure I had my ducks in a row...

It's kind of ironic that a guy with no children thinks that people should be allowed to use whatever offensive language they want around them, and even though he's not a property owner, he knows what building ordinances should be. That's pretty funny.
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Or file for a variance with the board of appeals.It is part of the process.