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Jim in CT 04-01-2019 08:19 PM

NY state cuts funding to special olympics, gives raises to politicians
 
let’s see the outrage....

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45411...ign=benshapiro

PaulS 04-02-2019 07:53 AM

That is terrible.

Did they cut taxes for the rich also? How about the social service programs that benefit the poor, where those cut also?

Jim in CT 04-02-2019 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1164949)
That is terrible.

Did they cut taxes for the rich also? How about the social service programs that benefit the poor, where those cut also?

beats me. All I saw, was the cuts to Soecial Olympics. Trump caught a lot of heat ( justified in my opinion) for cutting Special Olympics), i haven’t seen the same
outrage at Cuomo. Can’t imagine why?
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wdmso 04-02-2019 09:00 AM

new york $200,000 in 2018 to $150,000 for this year,"

Trump 18 million 2018 to zero then changed his mind again

only conservatives see reduction and elimination as the same thing


“Special Olympics New York is thankful to the Governor and Legislature for securing $150,000 in State Budget to support our Unified Champion Schools program, seems Special Olympics New York is fine with what they got for what appears to be a seperate program under the Special Olympics and funding shocking they are not the same once again

Jim in CT 04-02-2019 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1164956)
new york $200,000 in 2018 to $150,000 for this year,"

Trump 18 million 2018 to zero then changed his mind again

only conservatives see reduction and elimination as the same thing

oh, so if trump just cut funding by 25% while giving himself a raise, no one would have cared?
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PaulS 04-02-2019 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1164954)
beats me. All I saw, was the cuts to Soecial Olympics. Trump caught a lot of heat ( justified in my opinion) for cutting Special Olympics), i haven’t seen the same
outrage at Cuomo. Can’t imagine why?
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Possibly bc NY didn't cut other social welfare type programs??????

Jim in CT 04-02-2019 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1164962)
Possibly bc NY didn't cut other social welfare type programs??????

there was specific outrage here that Trump cut special olympics funding. true or false?
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PaulS 04-02-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1164968)
there was specific outrage here that Trump cut special olympics funding. true or false?
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I'm the one who first mentioned Special Olympics but it was in context with a number of other social welfare programs that were all cut. So the discussion was on all the programs. When I later mentioned Special Olympics it was as a proxy for all the social welfare programs that were cut.
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The Dad Fisherman 04-02-2019 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1164970)
I'm the one who first mentioned Special Olympics but it was in context with a number of other social welfare programs that were all cut. So the discussion was on all the programs. When I later mentioned Special Olympics it was as a proxy for all the social welfare programs that were cut.
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Special olympics is not a Social Welfare Program, its a charity.

PaulS 04-02-2019 12:07 PM

Thanks

detbuch 04-02-2019 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1164970)
I'm the one who first mentioned Special Olympics but it was in context with a number of other social welfare programs that were all cut. So the discussion was on all the programs. When I later mentioned Special Olympics it was as a proxy for all the social welfare programs that were cut.
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You also mentioned that cutting or increasing federal spending on social programs "is in many ways a reflection of your values." Your simplistic suggestion being that it would be a lack of empathy to cut such funding. You never explained why the federal government was supposed to budget according to empathy. Are we supposed to just assume that because "empathy" sounds like a nice and good "value" that the federal government should spend accordingly.

Can you explain why getting into unsustainable debt in order to empathize is a good "value"? Would you bankrupt your household in order to empathize with someone else's misfortune? Would it cast a negative light on your "values" to cut back on your sympathies in order that you and your family's well being is maintained?

In the U.S. we have various levels as well as different regions or sectors of government. Each has its defined function. They don't all do the same thing. Some things are done better in different sectors than in other sectors. Some things must not be done by one sector if it is the duty of another because that would basically destroy the diversity of responsibilities and lead to the centralization of government into one all-powerful system of governance--an authoritarian, dictatorial regime which is antithetical to our founding constitutional system.

The constitutional duty of the Federal Government is basically being a bulwark against foreign power and a glue that cements the cohesion of the entire nation by regulating a smooth and equal commerce and cooperation among the various states, as well as protecting what is referred to as our individual inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, some of that vast residuum of rights being defined in the Bill of Rights.

The practice of those rights is mainly in the hands of the individuals of this nation. As well, the responsibility for payment of the pursuit of happiness is also in the hands of the individuals of this nation. That is the life and liberty part that the federal government has a duty to protect, not to fund nor prescribe. If the people of various localities wish to collectively fund either as groups or through local government, that is their right.

But if the Federal Government assumes the right of the people as its own right, then it dissolves the bounds of the separate sectors, and even the boundary between the central government and individual freedom from it, even if the intention is benevolent.

As "nice" as benevolent dictatorship may sound, depending on it to remain benevolent is the idiot dream of weak or lazy people who think they can shuffle off their personal responsibility to an omnipotent bureaucracy which is staffed by a few power hungry people--a bureaucracy that taxes the people in order to keep them happy, and must always find more ways to do so to add on to its unlimited ability to provide by taxing and borrowing into infinite debt. A debt that must be payed by those who chose not to fund their own happiness.

That all may sound like "good values" to you, like compassion, but it is well outside of our constitutional system. It is a destruction of it. Rather than compassion, it is a mockery of the notion of "values."

PaulS 04-02-2019 12:36 PM

Can you phrase that differently.
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wdmso 04-03-2019 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1164957)
oh, so if trump just cut funding by 25% while giving himself a raise, no one would have cared?
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we won't know because that's not what happened

“Special Olympics New York is thankful to the Governor and Legislature for securing $150,000 in State Budget to support our Unified Champion Schools program

seems you missed that their not outraged ^^^^^

detbuch 04-03-2019 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1164979)
Can you phrase that differently.
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Sure. You can whimper your way into oblivion. Just don't drag me along with you.

PaulS 04-03-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1165024)
Sure. You can whimper your way into oblivion. Just don't drag me along with you.

Why do you think I'm whimpering?

I don't post day and night like you do or post those long winded responses as if eveyone was waiting for your reply nor do I start with the Dems (progressives) hate the constition garbage.

Sea Dangles 04-03-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1165024)
Sure. You can whimper your way into oblivion. Just don't drag me along with you.

He whimpers frequently
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PaulS 04-03-2019 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1165041)
He whimpers frequently
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How is that? You hardly ever add any content to the discussion. You just come back with your usual insult or name calling. I would be embarrassed to post like you do. Frequently, I'm embarrassed for you.

detbuch 04-03-2019 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1165028)
Why do you think I'm whimpering?

Your sniveling, fretting little complaints or suggestions that others are not "compassionate" like, you must think, you are, and your petty little digs about how much others post and how what they say just, I suppose, doesn't live up to your presumed high standards, comes across as self righteous whimpers rather than bangs.

detbuch 04-03-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1165056)
How is that? You hardly ever add any content to the discussion. You just come back with your usual insult or name calling. I would be embarrassed to post like you do. Frequently, I'm embarrassed for you.

The true nature of your compassion reveals itself again.

PaulS 04-03-2019 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1165062)
Your sniveling, fretting little complaints or suggestions that others are not "compassionate" like, you must think, you are, and your petty little digs about how much others post and how what they say just, I suppose, doesn't live up to your presumed high standards, comes across as self righteous whimpers rather than bangs.

Bangs - good one.

Stop your crying. Snowflake like?

PaulS 04-03-2019 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1165063)
The true nature of your compassion reveals itself again.

Why should I take his constant insults to everyone he disagrees with?

detbuch 04-03-2019 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1165066)
Bangs - good one.

Stop your crying. Snowflake like?

Oh, wow, such compassion. Such empathy. Such values.

detbuch 04-03-2019 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1165067)
Why should I take his constant insults to everyone he disagrees with?

Because you're a better person.

Sea Dangles 04-03-2019 02:38 PM

He is just a loudmouth snowflake.
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PaulS 04-03-2019 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1165070)
He is just a loudmouth snowflake.
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Ouch, that hurt:fishslap:

PaulS 04-04-2019 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1165068)
Oh, wow, such compassion. Such empathy. Such values.

Have you insulted WDMSO w/in the last hour?

detbuch 04-04-2019 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1165120)
Have you insulted WDMSO w/in the last hour?

Pointing out his own contradiction is not an insult. Besides, I am not the one who criticizes for lacking compassion.

PaulS 04-04-2019 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1165128)
Pointing out his own contradiction is not an insult. Besides, I am not the one who criticizes for lacking
compassion.

You don't call the following an insult?

"Your lack of coherence explains why so many of your posts are illogical"

What does my refusing to accept constant insults from an internet troll have to do with the lack of compassion in the Repub. budget?

detbuch 04-04-2019 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1165132)
You don't call the following an insult?

"Your lack of coherence explains why so many of your posts are illogical"

Naw, I'm just trying to help him out.

What does my refusing to accept constant insults from an internet troll have to do with the lack of compassion in the Repub. budget?

Now you're being incoherent.

PaulS 04-04-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1165139)
Now you're being incoherent.

How am I being incoherent?

Seems to me that comment you made was extremely insulting.

"Your lack of coherence explains why so many of your posts are illogical"


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