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Spence wasn't Regan a Democrat and switched parties when he supported Barry Goldwater, "Mr. Conservative", when he ran in the 60's? |
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El Presidente de los Estados Unidos Jorge W. Bush Defends Immigration Policy
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are all capitalists bad Bill? btw...anecdotal story since you like that stuff, and this one is completely factual...my wife spent more than a month at the Ronald McDonald house in Prov. when our oldest was born prematurely...which happened to coincide with the nurese's strike at Women and Infants...while enjoying the benefits of a comfortable place to recover which was established by a greedy corporation in close proximity from which to travel back and forth to the hospital on foot at all hours of the night to take care of our child we simultaneously enjoyed having to wear special badges when entering and leaving the hospital which identified us, and her particularly as she was not always able to have an escort, to the strikers and supporting thugs surrounding the hospital, the badges were suppose to identify her as a patient so that she would not be harassed and attacked as she left the premesis and were not always acknowledged by the mob...the replacement nurses were subject to harassment, threats, violence and vandalism of their vehicles with every changing shift....I guess you can't blame them...they're unionists...right? |
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From US census bureau and NCstate website Rank Unemployment 41 NORTH CAROLINA 9.9% Per Capita income 36 NORTH CAROLINA Home ownership 32 North Carolina 69.4% Graduation Rate 37 NC 71.4% SAT rankings Participation. 11 NC Reading and Writing 41 NC Math 35 NC |
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this is where it began, I don't know how we ended up at SAT scores... Chesapeak Bill "I can, however, say that if you look at the current economic situation in southern states (North Carolina is a good example) the average worker makes squat. Why? Becuase there is no union group to set an eaxample for what is the baseline. Good or bad, the unions have helped out non-union workers by establishing baseline salaries. Do you really think hourly wages woudl be where they are without at least one union getting a contract that establishes the standard for what is fair? If so, you are kidding yourself. Without that corporate greed would take hold " |
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Oh yeah, SAT scores are included, because they give at least a small idea about education in NC, the state that you are raving about the business climate... which doesn't seem to equate to excellent economic indicators for the people in the state. Sure you could figure that out for yourself, though. |
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Gov. Bev Perdue on Oct. 14 announced Forbes magazine is ranking North Carolina as the 3rd Best State for Business in America. North Carolina improved from last year’s Forbes ranking of fifth. In addition, the Governor announced that recent statistics from the Federal Bureau of Labor and Statistics show North Carolina is the 3rd best state for declining unemployment and 4th in the nation for job creation. the two in bold are not unrelated :uhuh: |
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America is spending more money on education while producing worse outcomes. Veronique de Rugy from the March 2011 issue In November the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) released its Program for International Student Assessment scores, measuring educational achievement in 65 countries. The results are depressingly familiar: While students in many developed nations have been learning more and more over time, American 15-year-olds are stuck in the middle of the pack in many fundamental areas, including reading and math. Yet the United States is near the top in education spending. Using the OECD data, Figure 1 compares K–12 education expenditures per pupil in each of the world’s major industrial powers. With the exception of Switzerland, the U.S. spends the most in the world on education, an average of $91,700 per student in the nine years between the ages of 6 and 15. But the results do not correlate. "anti-intellectual":rotf2::rotf2: |
[QUOTE=scottw;844289]sounds racist.....and depends on how you define "performing better"
[/B] racist? that's reaching. "performing better" is only related to sat scores, as it says in the post. The question is why doesn't the great business climate translate to exceptional or even better than average economic standing for the people of NC, instead of the bottom 3rd of the states? I won't pretend to know the answer, but I bet you have one. What are the jobs that are being created? |
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Interesting points Detbuch. One of my reasons for posting the statistics was specifically to show that using rankings as Scott did doesn't necessarily tell much of the real story. There are dozens of reasons NC falls where it does. I love the place and would love to live in most of the areas I have been to down there. I am curious to know how much of the DC per capita income actually stays in the DC school district. I know a bunch of people, including relatives who work in the city and live outside or even as far as Annapolis. Their kids definitely wouldn't go to the city schools, but the suburbs have very well respected public schools. I have said it many times in these pages and I think it is worth reiterating, trying to connect very complex problems just to unions or one political party is typically not only factual incorrect, but useless.
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Oh man, this is a S$#t show I'm glad I've avoided.
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