"All Nk wants is to be left alone. '

Are you serious? They KIDNAP citizens of other countries and bring them to North Korea, to tell Emperor Fatty how people in other countries live. Imagine if that happened to someone you care about?

Good God...

"They can be played like a fiddle. "

No one has figured out how. Looks like they played YOU like a fiddle, if you think they just want to be left alone.

War of words can only last so long and then what?

I don't think this will end well . Bill Clinton set the timeline much the way Obama has done with Iran . When you kick the can down the road you eventually run out of road . Thousands of lives will be lost .
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Previous administrations did not do much at all. Whatever happens, it's Emperor Fatty's doing.

Remove sanctions. Leave them alone and the can can be kicked down the road for generations. I'll say it again. All they want is to be left alone. Furthermore Kim Jong-un's current actions are that of someone who is trying to show his people how strong he is. The people of NK are brainwashed into thinking that he is that of godlike status. To stand up to the US only props up his god like power over his people.
Trump on the other hand is doing this as a distraction for what is going on within his own administration. A classic case of the tail wagging the dog. Had he not chosen to resort to this childish name calling game, the media would making all of us pay more attention to Russian investigations, corruption issues with how much money his resorts bill the us tax payer from his visits, etc. The closer he gets to loosing power, the better our chances are of war.. just wait and see. There's no better way to regain hold on power than a fresh new war.
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US has been poorly trying to contain this for several decades and had sustained brushback from China and Russia - who support most anything that makes life more difficult for the US

No, but the options have gotten increasingly fewer and worse until where we are now.

So it is a America's fault?

I do agree it is more deterrent WRT to NK-v-USA - not an existential threat to us as they would likely have a hard time hitting our cities, let alone a lot of them. SK and Japan, our two best allies in Asia, face an existential threat.

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Please, please, someone take Trumps phone away before he can respond to the the latest escalation in the war or words. I truly believe Trumps has no clue how irresponsible his rhetoric is when it comes to NK. I hope he just shuts the F up, let the UN and maybe China coming to the table handle this. I can't imagine living in SK or Japan as a native or part of the military, the fuse just seems to be getting shorter and shorter.
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I miss George W Bush
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