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JohnR 07-03-2019 08:58 AM

Sooooooo, the Betsy Ross Flag is racist
 
And Nike won't release it because Kap says Just Don't Do It. Frankly this sounds like an advertising gimmick that must confuse the frack out of the socialists. Imagine a corporation using their sympathies in agitprop :rotf2: :rotf2: , got people to talk about it dinnit they?

But I digress.

Colleges are changing names of buildings, the Founding Father's are being dismantled, everything abut our Country is now racist as the Cultural Stasi Marches through our institutional.

Everything is on the table. The Progressive Left will rip every monument down, every freedom, and every liberty.

The US Flag is next, just wait.

Jim in CT 07-03-2019 09:09 AM

it was a marketing ploy, all it was. it also shows that kapernick was full of crap when he said his protests were about police brutality.
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PaulS 07-03-2019 09:23 AM

Wait until SD calls you 2 snowflakes.


That flag is not racist but when racists use that flag for a symbol of their racism, there are other flags that can go on the sneaker. Just as the swastika was used for centuries before the Nazi started using it, people no longer use the swastika bc of the Nazis.

Seems the complaint should be against the racists who started using this flag to represent their hate rather than Nike who apparently doesn't want the racists to associate Nike's products with their racism.

JohnR 07-03-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1169579)
Wait until SD calls you 2 snowflakes.


That flag is not racist but when racists use that flag for a symbol of their racism, there are other flags that can go on the sneaker. Just as the swastika was used for centuries before the Nazi started using it, people no longer use the swastika bc of the Nazis.

Seems the complaint should be against the racists who started using this flag to represent their hate rather than Nike who apparently doesn't want the racists to associate Nike's products with their racism.


So based on your reasoning, we need to abandon the American Flag because some jackovs appropriated this?

Bullscheize

PaulS 07-03-2019 09:39 AM

We don't have to abandon the American flag - just don't put it on sneakers so the racists can buy them.

Your complaint is more with Nike instead of the racists and it should be the other way.

JohnR 07-03-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1169582)
We don't have to abandon the American flag - just don't put it on sneakers so the racists can buy them.

Your complaint is more with Nike instead of the racists and it should be the other way.




My only issue with Nike putting the flag on shoes is it might violate the US Flag code.

My stand on racists doesn't change, they are as$holes and should be defeated on the field of ideas. This goes back far longer than Nike's use of a hack (Kap) to roll some free Advertising Agitprop.

So don't tell me what my :cens: complaint should be ; ) .

scottw 07-03-2019 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1169582)
- just don't put it on sneakers so the racists can buy them.

are you saying someone who buys sneakers with an American flag on them is a racist?

The Dad Fisherman 07-03-2019 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1169586)
are you saying someone who buys sneakers with an American flag on them is a racist?

That's where they're going with it.

....and its Trump that's dividing this country :rolleyes:
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PaulS 07-03-2019 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1169586)
are you saying someone who buys sneakers with an American flag on them is a racist?

I'm saying that if Nike sells a sneaker with a BR American flag on it and someone buys the sneaker bc they view the BR flag as a racist symbol then those people are racists. Why would Nike want to get involved in putting a symbol on their sneakers that some are using to express some sort of racist view when they can put the current American flag on the shoe and it wouldn't be controversial (other than the fact it is going to get dirty, etc)?

PaulS 07-03-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1169587)
That's where they're going with it.

....and its Trump that's dividing this country :rolleyes:
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Trump and his racist followers who are using a BR American flag :rolleyes:.

Jim in CT 07-03-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1169588)
IWhy would Nike want to get involved in putting a symbol on their sneakers that some are using to express some sort of racist view when they can put the current American flag on the shoe and it wouldn't be controversial (other than the fact it is going to get dirty, etc)?

because there’s no rational way to
connect the dots between that flag and racism. obviously, disgraceful racism existed at the time that flag was created. that doesn’t mean the flag is a symbol of racism.

why don’t people
boycott cotton today? or since people ate beef back in the days of slavery, should we do away with beef now, because it’s a painful reminder of slavery? should
we ban everything that existed back then? do you see how stupid that is?

why would Kap be any more ok with the current flag ( which existed during segregation), than he is with the national anthem?

Nonsense.
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wdmso 07-03-2019 10:50 AM

Its not an American flag how hard is it but as usual the right would like us to think they are the samething
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scottw 07-03-2019 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1169588)
I'm saying that if Nike sells a sneaker with a BR American flag on it and someone buys the sneaker bc they view the BR flag as a racist symbol then those people are racists. Why would Nike want to get involved in putting a symbol on their sneakers that some are using to express some sort of racist view when they can put the current American flag on the shoe and it wouldn't be controversial (other than the fact it is going to get dirty, etc)?

this is incredibly stupid...but I still love you:hihi:

scottw 07-03-2019 10:56 AM

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Its not an American flag
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huh?...the Betsy Ross American Flag is not an American Flag?

this is getting interesting...


"The "Betsy Ross" design displayed at the second inauguration of Barack Obama. It has often been used at presidential inaugurations."

scottw 07-03-2019 10:59 AM

hey...if a couple of "racists" start using the Budweiser logo...are the idiots going to shut down Budweiser?

just wondering???

PaulS 07-03-2019 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1169591)
because there’s no rational way to
connect the dots between that flag and racismThe dots are that the racists use that flag to promote their racist agenda.. obviously, disgraceful racism existed at the time that flag was created. that doesn’t mean the flag is a symbol of racism.Yet the racist are now using that same exact flag as a symbol of racism..

why don’t people
boycott cotton today? or since people ate beef back in the days of slavery, should we do away with beef now, because it’s a painful reminder of slavery? should
we ban everything that existed back then? do you see how stupid that is?

why would Kap be any more ok with the current flag ( which existed during segregation), than he is with the national anthem?

Nonsense.
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Then wear a BR flag. Knock your self out. Or better yet, wear a Nazi symbol bc it origins had something to do with Buddism.

PaulS 07-03-2019 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1169598)
huh?...the Betsy Ross American Flag is not an American Flag?

this is getting interesting...


"The "Betsy Ross" design displayed at the second inauguration of Barack Obama. It has often been used at presidential inaugurations."

Was he trying to co-opt that flag to make it a symbol of something other than what the original intent was like the racists are doing.

scottw 07-03-2019 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1169607)
like the racists are doing.

what are you talking about??...you just love writing the word racist...I knew you'd get all animated over this :rotf3:

PaulS 07-03-2019 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1169608)
what are you talking about??...you just love writing the word racist...I knew you'd get all animated over this :rotf3:

Read the statement. Don't dumb things down - next your posts will all be "He's a snowflake".

Jim in CT 07-03-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1169606)
Then wear a BR flag. Knock your self out. Or better yet, wear a Nazi symbol bc it origins had something to do with Buddism.

racists ( democrats mostly) used german shepherds to keep blacks in line in the segregated south. should we ban german shepherds?

anyone can use anything as a symbol of racism. that doesn’t mean its rational to connect that thing, with racism.
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Jim in CT 07-03-2019 12:18 PM

Paul, you’d ban anything that any nut ever used as. symbol
of racism? cotton, chains, white sheets, fire hoses, baseball bats?

if you spend every waking moment looking for things to get offended by, you won’t be disappointed i guess.
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PaulS 07-03-2019 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1169614)
racists ( democrats mostly) used german shepherds to keep blacks in line in the segregated south. should we ban german shepherds?

anyone can use anything as a symbol of racism. that doesn’t mean its rational to connect that thing, with racism.
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I wouldn't ban GS but if racists started buying GS and bringing them to their racist meetings I would be leery if my neighbor later went out and bought a GS and sat on this porch under a confed. flag. It is what the item now represents bc it has been co-opted - just like the swastika was co-opted by the Nazis. No one would wear a swastika in 1941 bc it had been co-opted by the Nazi.

And those racist Dems. now find themselves much more in agreement with the Republican party than they would with the Democratic party and their votes all go to the Republican party.

Got Stripers 07-03-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1169574)
And Nike won't release it because Kap says Just Don't Do It. Frankly this sounds like an advertising gimmick that must confuse the frack out of the socialists. Imagine a corporation using their sympathies in agitprop :rotf2: :rotf2: , got people to talk about it dinnit they?

But I digress.

Colleges are changing names of buildings, the Founding Father's are being dismantled, everything abut our Country is now racist as the Cultural Stasi Marches through our institutional.

Everything is on the table. The Progressive Left will rip every monument down, every freedom, and every liberty.

The US Flag is next, just wait.

Pendulum politics
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Jim in CT 07-03-2019 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1169617)
I wouldn't ban GS but if racists started buying GS and bringing them to their racist meetings I would be leery if my neighbor later went out and bought a GS and sat on this porch under a confed. flag. It is what the item now represents bc it has been co-opted - just like the swastika was co-opted by the Nazis. No one would wear a swastika in 1941 bc it had been co-opted by the Nazi.

And those racist Dems. now find themselves much more in agreement with the Republican party than they would with the Democratic party and their votes all go to the Republican party.

the nazis were a major
movement in 1930s germany. you’re saying that a similarly-sized group of racists, has co-opted the betsy ross flag? who are they, exactly?

as to who has the best interests of blacks at heart, yeah, in those poor urban cities run by liberals , blacks sure have it made. abort
most of them
out of existence, and those that remain get crippled by becoming addicted to welfare and fatherlessness. that’s swell public policy.
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wdmso 07-03-2019 01:35 PM

Next the right will be outraged over eating on flag paper plates .. i just find it funny they respond no differently then the left they attack for a changing American.. and its freedoms but on paper it is them putting the thumb on the scale of democracy.. from the bed room to the voting booth .. they also suffer greatly from KDS
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Pete F. 07-03-2019 01:36 PM

I think the whole argument is pretty stupid but, 60% of millenials identify as Democrats, and the older you get the more apt you are to be Republican.
If I was Nike it's something I'd take into consideration.

As to Ted Cruz boycotting Nike, just how many pairs of athletic shoes do you think he buys, so he can put the basketball thru the "ring"?

JohnR 07-03-2019 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1169600)
hey...if a couple of "racists" start using the Budweiser logo...are the idiots going to shut down Budweiser?

just wondering???

If you are going this route may I suggest Zima (sadly making a coumeback) and Heineken instead? I don't drink Bud bur I won't drink hjeineken or Zima :rotf2:

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1169618)
Pendulum politics
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Correcting from what?

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1169624)
Next the right will be outraged over eating on flag paper plates .. i just find it funny they respond no differently then the left they attack for a changing American.. and its freedoms but on paper it is them putting the thumb on the scale of democracy.. from the bed room to the voting booth .. they also suffer greatly from KDS
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WTH is KDS?

wdmso 07-04-2019 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1169626)
If you are going this route may I suggest Zima (sadly making a coumeback) and Heineken instead? I don't drink Bud bur I won't drink hjeineken or Zima :rotf2:



Correcting from what?



WTH is KDS?

Kapernick disorder syndrom. Nothing fires up the base quicker.

To bad the issue of the flag is secondary
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JohnR 07-04-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1169665)
Kapernick disorder syndrom. Nothing fires up the base quicker.


Ahhhh, got ya.

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1169665)
To bad the issue of the flag is secondary
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This is true. It would be more beneficial to talk about his hatred of police, not focusing on just bad cops, disdain for Freedom how everything is bad rather that fixing and adjusting what's wrong.

He fell / lucked / slacked into a movement. He is not the righteousness of MLK furthering Civil Rights. He wore Cops are Pigs socks while riding the Bench.

Sea Dangles 07-04-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1169671)
Ahhhh, got ya.



This is true. It would be more beneficial to talk about his hatred of police, not focusing on just bad cops, disdain for Freedom how everything is bad rather that fixing and adjusting what's wrong.

He fell / lucked / slacked into a movement. He is not the righteousness of MLK furthering Civil Rights. He wore Cops are Pigs socks while riding the Bench.

This makes him a hero to some

Snowflakes
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