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Jim in CT 02-15-2013 11:47 AM

Media Coverage Of Politics
 
Senator Menendez of New Jersey is a Democrat. He is up to his eyeballs in trouble right now. First, it was reported that a Florida eye surgeon (who has been a big donor to Senator Menendez) took Menendez to the Dominican republic, several times, on his private jet. Senators are required to disclose such things, and compensate the owner of the jet for the going rate for such trips. Menendez didn't disclose his trips until he got caught. It is reported that there were other trips he didn't disclose and pay for. It is also reported that Senator Menendez paid for sex with underage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic (that's just an allegation). It's also reported (and not disputed that I have seen) that Senator Menendez steered a $500 million port security contract to a security company owned by none other than the Florida surgeon who flew the Senator to the Dominican Republic (I'm sure that was just a coincidence).

No one, other than Foxnews, is giving any meaningful time to this story. MSNBC had Senator Menendez on last week to talk about the State of the Union, and incredibly (or maybe predictably) the investigations never came up during his appearance.

All of the news stations are going crazy over the fact that Senator Marco Rubio, a conservative Republican who is literally Public Enemy #1 to liberals for the forseeable future, took an awkward drink of water during his response to the State Of The Union address.

I didn't see Rubio's appearance. But if all the liberal pundits can do is point out that he had the audacity to take a sip of water, I assume there was nothing in his speech that the liberals felt they could refute.

RIJIMMY 02-15-2013 12:43 PM

dont get me started Jimbo....menendez is not even mentioned on CNN however Rubio (note the slow motions shot)......


http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#...water-gate.cnn

buckman 02-15-2013 12:54 PM

For the most part liberals are very immature emotionally . They eat this stuff up!! I work in Cambridge. They actually laugh at stuff like this.
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JohnR 02-15-2013 03:30 PM

It has been getting some play on the local radio talk but other than that, would never had heard of it...

buckman 02-15-2013 04:50 PM

One think for sure, Everyone knows who Rubio is :)
Perhaps it was diabolically planned
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spence 02-15-2013 09:27 PM

I read a long story about Menendez on nbcnews (i.e. msnbc) and his compliance issues, sorry to have to tell you this.

As for his sleeping with minors, I don't believe that's part of the investigation. A major news outlet probably isn't going to report on it unless there's some credibility. There's a lot that's on Drudge that the mainstream media (including FOX) often doesn't cover because it's just irresponsible until there's real evidence.

-spence

buckman 02-16-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 984927)
. A major news outlet probably isn't going to report on it unless there's some credibility

-spence

Spence, I want to thank you for bringing me to tears with this beauty. You are one funny bastard :)
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spence 02-16-2013 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 984957)
Spence, I want to thank you for bringing me to tears with this beauty. You are one funny bastard :)
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Believe it or not they do have standards. Doesn't mean they don't report on some stupid stuff but an allegation with criminal reprocess ions has a very high threshold.

Hey, did you know that guy in your avatar was for gun bans? Just saying...
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buckman 02-16-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 984960)
Believe it or not they do have standards. Doesn't mean they don't report on some stupid stuff but an allegation with criminal reprocess ions has a very high threshold.
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I know a certain group of college lacrosse players that would disagree. I also remember several suicides by wrongly accused by the media, individuals.
Your blind faith does however explain a lot of your positions
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buckman 02-16-2013 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 984961)
Believe it or not they do have standards. Doesn't mean they don't report on some stupid stuff but an allegation with criminal reprocess ions has a very high threshold.

Hey, did you know that guy in your avatar was for gun bans? Just saying...
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Hey, go look up the Gun Owners Protection Act . I believe it passed in 86'.
Your wrong but I understand :)
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JohnnyD 02-16-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 984961)
Believe it or not they do have standards.

No. They do not. Their only standards are "what panders best to our target audience" and "what furthers the agendas of our executives". Anyone who thinks differently has allowed them to pull the wool over your eyes.

There's a reason I refuse to call them "news organizations". They are nothing more than editorialized, agenda-driven sources for propaganda... all of them.

spence 02-16-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 984987)
Hey, go look up the Gun Owners Protection Act . I believe it passed in 86'.
Your wrong but I understand :)
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Reagan supported the FAWB.

-spence

buckman 02-16-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 984989)
Reagan supported the FAWB.

-spence

No. A Democrat named Hughes sleezed in an amendment at the 11th hour banning i believe true machine guns. Reagan did take some heat for signing the bill that had this amendment attached .
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Jim in CT 02-16-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 984961)
Believe it or not they do have standards. Doesn't mean they don't report on some stupid stuff but an allegation with criminal reprocess ions has a very high threshold.

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Tell that to the Duke lacrosse team whose lives were ruined.

Spence, what you mean to say is, there are high thresholds when the criminal is sympathetic to the liberal agenda.

You don't believe that the underage pristitute thiing is part of the investigation. Which FBI agent told you this? Or are you, as always, dismissive of that which makes your side look immoral and stupid?

spence 02-16-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 984995)
No. A Democrat named Hughes sleezed in an amendment at the 11th hour banning i believe true machine guns. Reagan did take some heat for signing the bill that had this amendment attached .
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You're mixing legislation. Ronald Reagan, your hero and avatar, openly supported the 1994 FAWB.

Perhaps it was just old age.

-spence

buckman 02-16-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 984997)
You're mixing legislation. Ronald Reagan, your hero and avatar, openly supported the 1994 FAWB.

Perhaps it was just old age.

-spence

Yes, my old age and you are correct. He did support the Brady bill
He did however have a profound impact on the 2nd amendment by appointing Scalia and Kennedy. Without them we almost lost the
2 nd amendment
Still my hero
Now back to the thread 😄
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spence 02-16-2013 02:20 PM

No, I meant Reagan's old age.

-spence

Jackbass 02-16-2013 02:57 PM

I seem to remember a Rather prominent member of CBS reporting a totally false story on GW Bushes military record. Running with the story prior to having authentication. Those are high standards.

Media controls the country IMHO context context context. Everything can be protrayed a certain way given the appropriate sound bytes and video shots etc. it is a way of life. The under informed just go with it.
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spence 02-16-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackbass (Post 985007)
I seem to remember a Rather prominent member of CBS reporting a totally false story on GW Bushes military record. Running with the story prior to having authentication. Those are high standards.

So you're suggesting the mainstream media should drop it's standards and embrace a suspect report?

-spence

Jackbass 02-16-2013 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 985020)
So you're suggesting the mainstream media should drop it's standards and embrace a suspect report?

-spence

Of course not. I am saying they do. Particularly when it benefits their agenda
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spence 02-16-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackbass (Post 985022)
Of course not. I am saying they do. Particularly when it benefits their agenda
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Things to slip through the cracks, but that doesn't mean they don't have journalistic standards. I'd note that Rather was pretty much taken down from his throne after that event. Even considering it wasn't a totally false story, but one that had pieces of bad evidence.

-spence

Jackbass 02-16-2013 05:28 PM

Running with a story that is unsubstantiated particularly when it concerns the POTUS lacks integrity. Regardless of who the standing president is.

It is an unfortunate side effect of modern journalism with all of the instantaneous media outlets available to us te days of great news anchors is over. By the time it hits the 6:00 It has already been reported.

I do feel our current mainstream media twist things to their agenda through context and portrayal which is truly what the original argument is.
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JohnnyD 02-17-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 985029)
Things to slip through the cracks, but that doesn't mean they don't have journalistic standards. I'd note that Rather was pretty much taken down from his throne after that event. Even considering it wasn't a totally false story, but one that had pieces of bad evidence.

-spence

"Journalistic standards" - using this term to describe mainstream media is beyond ridiculous. Every single one of them present agenda-driven, editorialized reporting.

Foxnews, MSNBC and CNN all spend a small percentage of time actually reporting the news and a substantial amount of time setting an emotional response and framing up how their viewers should "feel" about the report. They do not care what the story is, as long as it will appeal their viewers and their viewers will ignore any critical-thinking skills in order to soak up whatever bs opinions are being presented without question.

You seem to be their ideal viewer.

spence 02-17-2013 11:33 AM

The Menendez story is more interesting the more I read about it. Apparently the tip about his cavorting with underage girls has little to no merit. It might not even be politically motivated as much as criminally motivated by some in PR who don't like the influence of his business friend. The FBI has investigated and found nothing behind it.

For all the beotching about the media not covering it I've read plenty on NBC, the NYTimes and Washington Post.

-spence

PaulS 02-18-2013 07:58 AM

another long article yesterday in the NY Times about it.

buckman 02-18-2013 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 985245)
another long article yesterday in the NY Times about it.

Reporting" nothing to see here, move along" perhaps ?
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spence 02-18-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 985258)
Reporting" nothing to see here, move along" perhaps ?
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No, he certainly could have some ethics violations to answer for...

That's the rub, your left wing media is reporting on this story...they're just pushing the credible parts.
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RIROCKHOUND 02-18-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 985258)
Reporting" nothing to see here, move along" perhaps ?
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So, dod you read it? or ass-u-me-ing?:smash:

PaulS 02-18-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 985258)
Reporting" nothing to see here, move along" perhaps ?
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Why don't you actually read the articles?

There have been lots of articles in the Times on this. I can show you how to search for them if your interested.

buckman 02-18-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 985259)
No, he certainly could have some ethics violations to answer for...

That's the rub, your left wing media is reporting on this story...they're just pushing the credible parts.
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And we all know how ethics violations are handled .
Just so you know... I hope he's not guilty of the sexual accusations but these are arrogant powerful and clearly unethical people. I simple don't put anything past them and the "left media" (your words) have a historical past of selective reporting. Not based on credibility but on their own arrogance and agenda.
Fox is as guilty as CNN
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