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Maybe Johnny isn’t the problem, but his neighbor has a history of mental illness and suddenly wants to vent, so it’s off to secure far to essentially legally or in private sales, the fire power he needs. I’d rather the loop holes be closed, but if I’m in a mall shopping for Xmas, I think I have a better chance for survival, if he is only armed with a handgun or shotgun and not an assault rifle. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Exactly, but the number of nuts is increasing at a very fast rate, better hope one with daddy's or his newly acquired assault weapon doesn't ruin you Xmas shopping, your trip the the movies with the kids or grand kids or that country concert you were waiting to see.
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What's the take on the 5-10 million AR type gun in private hands now in circulation? You going to take them? If so, the civilian and leo casualties will out number the mass shooting #'s. You will instantly turn law abiding citizens into criminals and some won't swallow.
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If you hold the parents of shooters accountable in terms of prison time for their child’s actions I bet you would solve a great % of mass shootings. If you know your kid is a risk and you had everything to loose I would imagine you might step up your parenting game.
That’s my take on a form of gun control. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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I think the Gun Control / Confiscation side is seriously overestimating how many LEOs will be willing to go in against the 2A and confiscate people's firearms. Quote:
Would be a start. I do think there needs to be safe storage laws where they do not already exist (this is actual common sense gun discussion point). And I do not think young people need access to the safe (another actual common sense gun discussion point). |
Wayne LaPierre this week, days after multiple mass shootings in Texas, Ohio, and California left the country, once again, reeling and mourning: “There’s nothing about an insane criminal committing a horrible act that should lead to the government taking guns away from law abiding citizens.”
Republican lawmakers continue to block any effort to impose even the most simplistic regulations on guns, American people continue to support common sense gun control measures by overwhelming majorities. Fox News poll, the one that showed the NRA with its lowest favorability numbers ever, also captured one other troubling statistic for the organization: For the first time in its history, the NRA’s unfavorable numbers were higher than its favorable ones. Keep saying no to any gun changes and sooner or later it will be done for you.... Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
I hear their poll numbers were 67% of those polled supported a ban on assault rifles, that has to include a good number of gun owners to be that high. Not likely anything will change, not until a couple GOP schools suffer the same high losses.
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20,000 gun laws federal and state, and people want more. keep listening to your echo chambers
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There is a mental illness problem that has to be dealt with. It's not the gun that pulls the trigger — it's the person holding the
gun," Trump said. Flip flop flip flop Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
Hey All Y'all, let's have a discussion on what we can do for gun safety.
How about this and this to address problems with bad guys getting guns? No, not far enough !! We need to remove the Automatic Climate Busting Weapons of Mass Assault Clips for people that haven't done anything wrong but are probably racists!! But I am concerned that as a 2A supporter, with my rights being eroded and slowly infringed, because it is just one more step in a slow roll of steps. Paraphrasing Wayne: "Don't be worried. No one is coming to take our guns that is just NRA Fear Mongering" Actual Wayne: Quote:
Except existing laws did not prevent this guy that shot 6 cops from using firearms, selling narcotics, and doing a host of other things that were against the law. Anyone want to take a guess if he went through the same background checks I did? |
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please. Echo chamber you need to get expand your information base... this has been the trend for years Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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The NRA policy of just saying No .. its not flying with a large subsection of Americans.. once the NRA can't keep paying or candidates see there views as counter productive to their elections... you'll look back and wish common sense gun owners had a seat at the table.. but you gambled on No. Carrying the day... so you'll get what you get... Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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I also believe that the left is more willing to cut those items out to the detriment of our countries benefit. This is why I am no longer a moderate Dem. Wayne - you really need to step outside your bubble. Many of your statements lean right up against confiscation, or rely on such a fine line it is hard to see daylight between your position and confiscation / eroding of rights. Everything you push WRT Gun Control is the same. You target a large group of law abiding people and further to reduce their right to self defense beyond where already eroded. |
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Maybe you need to look beyound your bubble how any regulation always leads to confiscation as a argument against it 100% of the time Not beliving people should not own Ak 47s and M-4 or an AR-15 or other assault rifles dosnt equal i support confiscation.. but with most conservatives it all or nothing , And the only party i have seen reducing the freedoms and choices of ordinary americans with vigor..are Republicans state and federal.. across America Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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One precedent leads to another. If the object is to save lives, than all guns should be banned from ownership. Before the mass shooting using high capacity guns started to happen, there were calls for the elimination of the right to own hand guns. I recall being able to search the net for articles, such as by the NYT that openly called for the elimination of the right to own guns. It's suspicious that I can't find those articles now on a web search. |
Here's a NO GUN argument from an established and respected left wing publication, The New Republic.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1254...-guns-yes-them |
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Here's a video by some would demonize as kooky but who actually presents a whole host of statistics re the various gun control arguments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWYd3S_iR1M |
More ban all guns from the left including the WAPO:
https://newrepublic.com/article/1053...y-ban-all-guns |
More ban all guns from the Tallahassee Democrat newspaper:
https://www.tallahassee.com/story/op...guns/19426029/ |
There are a lot more calls from the left to ban all guns. I'm not going to link them, but you get the picture
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Apologies - your thought bubble. Your thought bubble is always pretty hard left. I know you have time in the Mil and I did not know you are in corrections (not surprised and I am not saying that in a malicious demeanor). I can't get a M4. The worst I have is the scary looking version of a Ruger Mini-14. And you understand the background checks I have to go through to get one. When you were in the service you saw kids that probably should not have had access to one and did anyway, (some learned, some were moved elsewhere). Other than a rare accident, nothing went wrong with them. My hope is we find a way to weed out the people that should not have access to them so they cannot have them. Courts have ruled that our rights as an American to defend ourselves grant us the right to access appropriate tools to do that. You are proposing to remove a/k/a infringe on that. |
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