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justplugit 12-14-2010 02:16 PM

1,924 Page Spending Bill--
 
A 1,924 page spending bill has been introduced to hold over
the budget until September.
Introduced TODAY, loaded with pork, and needs to be voted on by FRIDAY.

This Administration continues to insult the intelligence of the American people.

Transparency. :bs:

scottw 12-14-2010 02:18 PM

John Boehner was just spotted weeping.....

justplugit 12-14-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 818359)
John Boehner was just spotted weeping.....

And Obama smiling like a cheshire cat.

Piscator 12-14-2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 818359)
John Boehner was just spotted weeping.....

and Obama was just spotted spending

scottw 12-15-2010 06:55 AM

dems don't like being referred to as "tax and spend"...but when you are spending a trillion at a clip and you've added 9000 pages of burdensome laws, taxes, regulations and fees in two years....tough to shake the lable...

what's a trillion or so more on your way out the door ?...

"take that America...stupid ingrates"

justplugit 12-15-2010 06:19 PM

Pelosie has decided to work on "Don't ask Don't Tell" tomorrow and wait
till Friday to bring up the spending bill. Either she has decided to read it or
is putting the usual Holiday Strong Arm in place.

I would bet the latter.

I thought the Bill was supposed to be read in it's entirety on the floor before the vote. :huh:

No wonder Congress only has a 13% approval rating.

spence 12-15-2010 09:29 PM

You should take a look at how many GOP ear marks are in this bill by the very members saying they're voting against it.
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striperman36 12-15-2010 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 818358)
A 1,924 page spending bill has been introduced to hold over
the budget until September.
Introduced TODAY, loaded with pork, and needs to be voted on by FRIDAY.

This Administration continues to insult the intelligence of the American people.

Transparency. :bs:

Until September? that's 1 month from the end of the fiscal year.

detbuch 12-15-2010 11:16 PM

Earmarks are not the problem in this bill. They comprise less than 1 percent of the spending. Until Congress abolishes earmarks, both parties will use them. As for the distribution between solely Dem and Repub that can actually be identified as such, it appears, so far, that the strictly Dem earmarks outnumber the Strictly GOP earmarks 2 to 1. But that is not the problem with this Omnibus bill. This is the budget that was supposed to be created some time ago so that it could be studied before approval. But here it is, massive, with no time, supposedly to study, therefore must, like the health care bill, be rammed through in order to find out what's in it, and without the proper time to debate. Since we've gone this far without a budget, lets let the new Congress make their own. In the meantime, any emergency expenditures can be handled by these oh so able and gifted legislators who are so obviously interested in what's best for the Nation.

scottw 12-16-2010 07:29 AM

and the GOP earmarkers are rightly being pummelled by their constituents and many are withdrawing their earmarks...

After his caucus passed a voluntary earmark moratorium last month, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R., Utah) — perhaps with the offing of co-delegate Bob Bennett fresh in his mind — did something both politically smart and substantively commendable: he withdrew each of his earmark requests from the omnibus.
“People have the right to do whatever they want,” he said. “I just felt my own personal moral obligation to do that.”

What’s putting senators like Thune, Cornyn, and even Republican Leader McConnell in such a tough position on the omnibus is not just that they requested earmarks, but that every earmark in the bill went through the regular committee order. There simply are no surprises in that part of the omnibus, and in many cases senators had months to register protest. Senator Hatch did just that. Why didn’t others?

Thune tells Beutler, simply, that “I guess I hadn’t thought about doing it.” Thune’s office elaborates for me, saying the senator didn’t withdraw his requests (which were made months before the moratorium vote) because he didn’t think the Democrats would have the “audacity” to move on an omnibus in the lame duck. But Thune now says that he will vote to strip out all the earmarks — his included — from the omnibus if given the chance.

and then there's this little gem

Redistribution on steroids
Wednesday, December 15, 2010

Mike Jensen
Rep. Cleaver has proposed a $48 billion earmark When absurdity gives way to hilarity, you must be talking about politics.

In the midst of a colossal global concern for the economic stability of our great nation, Emanuel Cleaver, Missouri's 5th Congressional District representative, has one small earmark on his wish list that deserves some attention.

Cleaver has listed a new earmark -- one of several -- and he promises to "fight for every one." But this is a whopping $48 billion package that must go down as the grandaddy of all earmarks.
Proposed by a gentleman named Lamar Mickens, president of the not-for-profit Quality Day Campus, the $48 billion earmark would funnel money into the inner cities to give money to the poor and thereby produce a much larger consumer class to buy the goods and services produced in this country.

Cleaver's office says this of the proposal:

"The Epicenter is a proposed estimated $48 billion (Phase One) mass scale urban reclamation project for combating, reducing, reversing and/or eliminating poverty within under served communities by utilizing mass scale economic redevelopment to bring about stability and self reliance.

Fly Rod 12-16-2010 07:42 AM

detbuch: "Earmarks are not the problem in this bill."

There is only 20,000 earmarks, not a problem. :smash:

Fly Rod 12-16-2010 09:11 AM

I have to laugh at some of the Dems and Gop that have submitted earmarks into a bill that has to be passed by Saturday. Now some of them are saying that they will not vote for the bill, they know that the bill will pass or government would not be able to run.

Why would they not just pull their earmarks out of the bill? :wall:

Piscator 12-16-2010 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 818796)
I have to laugh at some of the Dems and Gop that have submitted earmarks into a bill that has to be passed by Saturday. Now some of them are saying that they will not vote for the bill, they know that the bill will pass or government would not be able to run.

Why would they not just pull their earmarks out of the bill? :wall:

Check this one out:

They "incorrectly" added Scott Brown's name to an earmark. He saw it and had them remove it. These "earmarks" are out of control. It doesn't get any more "self-interest" than this. Who wrote this 1,924 page bill? How long did it take? How can they actually read 1,924 pages of garbage in such a short period of time? I wonder how many pages this bill would be if all the earmarks were removed. Check it out:

Mass. has $213m stake in earmark fight - The Boston Globe

scottw 12-16-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Piscator (Post 818800)
Who wrote this 1,924 page bill? How long did it take?

definitely wasn't Sarah Palin...she's too stupid...did you know that she mistook a polar bear for a grizzly bear in her last episode?:deer:

buckman 12-16-2010 10:18 AM

6 people, 3 Dems and 3 """Republicans""", wrote this.

Piscator 12-16-2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 818818)
definitely wasn't Sarah Palin...she's too stupid...did you know that she mistook a polar bear for a grizzly bear in her last episode?:deer:

didn't know that, but thanks for the update. :huh:

buckman 12-16-2010 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piscator (Post 818800)
Check this one out:

They "incorrectly" added Scott Brown's name to an earmark. He saw it and had them remove it. These "earmarks" are out of control. It doesn't get any more "self-interest" than this. Who wrote this 1,924 page bill? How long did it take? How can they actually read 1,924 pages of garbage in such a short period of time? I wonder how many pages this bill would be if all the earmarks were removed. Check it out:

Mass. has $213m stake in earmark fight - The Boston Globe

More money for the Kennedy's!!!. WTF

Piscator 12-16-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 818819)
6 people, 3 Dems and 3 """Republicans""", wrote this.

Anyone know how long it took?

scottw 12-16-2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 818821)
More money for the Kennedy's!!!. WTF

let me guess, they're planting a tree and naming .....oh, can't do that....

buckman 12-16-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piscator (Post 818822)
Anyone know how long it took?

One of them was heard to say " I have worked harder then anyone before me. It's not a perfect bill but we need to get it done for the children"

Fly Rod 12-16-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 818818)
definitely wasn't Sarah Palin...she's too stupid...did you know that she mistook a polar bear for a grizzly bear in her last episode?:deer:


Here it is Thursday and she is still counting $250,000 for that episode. :rotf2::rotf2:

scottw 12-16-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 818858)
Here it is Thursday and she is still counting $250,000 for that episode. :rotf2::rotf2:

hey, when the family was in their giant SUV and heading back to Podunk with a moose on the roof I heard Sarah say that she was thirsty and then ask Todd what time he thought "Store24 stays open till"


can you believe that?????


shhhh...JD's here...probably just rereading his old posts

JohnnyD 12-16-2010 12:33 PM

Earmarks from both parties? Didn't they both pledge to not include any earmarks in future legislation??

scottw 12-16-2010 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 818885)
Earmarks from both parties? Didn't they both pledge to not include any earmarks in future legislation??

the should just change the wording like they always do..

instead if earmarks..."Budget Change" or " Budget Disruption"

no, I think "Budget Change" would be more palatable than disruption...anyone that complains will be labled.. deniers...or "deny-ers"... since opposing this spending this would deny "money for the children"

I'd make a great liberal because I can just make s*&T up.....:rotf2:

Piscator 12-16-2010 09:56 PM

Senate Republicans, Thank You Very Much!!!

Earmarks being dropped!!!

Senate Dem leader drops nearly $1.3T spending bill - Yahoo! News

justplugit 12-16-2010 10:11 PM

Omnibus Bill is dead.

They must have put on their astro turf listening ears. :) Stop the spending.

No 6000 earmarks.

buckman 12-17-2010 09:05 AM

Thanks TeaParty for saving us 8 billion!!!

RIJIMMY 12-17-2010 10:05 AM

so lets just take a quick tally here. Johnny D posts why he believes Republicans are viewed as obstructionists. Yet in just a few weeks they have worked with the President to get the tax cuts for 2 more years and now squashed a bloated spending bill.
PROGRESS !!!! So how do you think Independents view them NOW????

justplugit 12-17-2010 01:34 PM

IMHO, the best thing about the Omnibus being DOA is it takes away that 1 Billion $
for HC spending next year, and allows one more way to kill HC by being able to
defund it, rescind it or find it unconstitutional.

Hopefully any new HC Bill would include opening up interstate insurance
competition and Tort Reform and truly help the uninsured citizens only.

scottw 12-17-2010 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 819252)
IMHO, the best thing about the Omnibus being DOA is it takes away that 1 Billion $
for HC spending next year, and allows one more way to kill HC by being able to
defund it, rescind it or find it unconstitutional.

Hopefully any new HC Bill would include opening up interstate insurance
competition and Tort Reform and truly help the uninsured citizens only.

Amen, that bill was simply a way to inflate areas that would be targeted for cuts and maintain current grossly elevated spending levels ...funny that many of the same people that called for compromise and working together are joyfully celebrating this a Obama "snookering" the republicans....so, successful "compromise" on an issue is when the liberal successfully "snookers" the opposition...I get it now......this is why there should be no compromise with these people, they do not work from a basis or framework of intellectual honesty...they will do whatever it takes to attain their goals and will applaud and celebrate and encourage eachother's dishonesty as long as moves their socialist agenda forward, we've seen it time and again....:yak5:


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